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...According to conventional thinking at the time, Germany never should have been able to overrun france [sic] ....
Bullshit. It had happened not so long before.
 

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... it's easy to look back some 80 years later and say, "Hey, they never should have been worried about that"

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Anyone less stupid than you could see back then that there was no way Japan could occupy and hold the United States. They had maps back then too, you know. It was not Japan's goal to conquer and occupy the United States.
 

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Really. Glance at a map once in a while.
I have. In 1942, we had a lot of ocean, and the US only had five aircraft carriers to defend it all. After Coral Sea and the loss of USS Lexington, and the Saratoga was in drydock because of a torpedo hit. That just left Enterprise, Yorktown and Hornet to defend Midway. The Wasp was off doing, something, I guess.

So imagine what would have happened if at Midway, instead of four Japanese Carriers going to the bottom, it was three American carriers.... We'd have been well and screwed. We'd have lost Hawaii and nothing but water between that and California.

Again, today we know the Japanese were already stretched to their limits, but the people at the time didn't know that. Axis victory was a real possibility, and the last thing you wanted was 100,000 potential collaborators in a war zone, because that would have been stupid.
 

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The battleships all lined up in a shallow harbor?
Which nobody thought could be attacked because torpedoes couldn't operate in shallow water. Again, the Japanese destroyed most of the conventional thinking in the Pearl Harbor Attack.

Anyone less stupid than you could see back then that there was no way Japan could occupy and hold the United States. They had maps back then too, you know. It was not Japan's goal to conquer and occupy the United States.
They didn't have to "hold" the United States. But could they have landed troops on the west coast and caused trouble? Um. yeah.

Again- Japanese strategy was NEVER to defeat the US. It was to drag the war out long enough to where the US would sue for peace because they were sick of war. It was pretty much the same playbook they had used against Russia in 1905. What they hadn't counted on was how angry American were after Pearl Harbor.
 

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And do you know how "a lot of ocean" works, dumbass?
Yes, you can cross it in these things called "ships". Which the Japanese had plenty of when the war started.
"Plenty"? Enough to transport more personnel than the entire population of the nation across the world's largest ocean, conquer an utterly intractable people, establish and maintain a supply line across said ocean, and maintain effective command and control while heavily armed locals pop up from behind every blade of grass every minute of every day, with an endless supply of more swarming from halfway across a continent many, many times the size of the 'occupying' nation? You're a fucking moron.
 

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The scumbag racist piece of shit fdr knew that was not the case.
Again, funny thing about collaborators, you'll never know who might become one.

If you had told a Frenchman in 1938 that Philip Petain, hero of World War I, would become a Nazi Collaborator, he'd have laughed in your face and threw croissants at you.

And then Vichy France happened.

Again, Trump throws kids into cages, and Mexico isn't at war with us, they aren't invading, they are technically an ally. And you are fine with this.

FDR was threatened by a GENOCIDAL enemy, one who had slaughtered millions in China and the rest of Asia, with things like "Rape of Nanking" and "Bataan Death March" in recent memory, and he had a legitimate concern about 100,000 people of questionable loyalty.
 

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"Plenty"? Enough to transport more personnel than the entire population of the nation across the world's largest ocean, conquer an utterly intractable people, establish and maintain a supply line across said ocean, and maintain effective command and control while heavily armed locals pop up from behind every blade of grass every minute of every day, with an endless supply of more swarming from halfway across a continent many, many times the size of the 'occupying' nation? You're a fucking moron.
So many things wrong with that statement.

The first being the NRA myth that there were guns behind every blade of grass. Yamamoto never said this, and we didn't have all that many guns in 1942. In fact, when the US started mobilizing before the war, troops had to practice with broomsticks because there weren't enough rifles to go around yet. The US was woefully unprepared for WWII, and we were giving most of what we were producing to the British.

1940's America was not the NRA inspired hellscape of today where we have to send little Timmy to school with a bullet proof backpack because one of his classmates might come in shooting.

If fact, the Japanese had already landed in the Aleutians, although that was a diversion to draw attention away from Midway, their real target.

Was an invasion "unlikely"? Yes. But a lot of "unlikely" things had already happened in this war. You have to plan for the Unlikely.
 

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The scumbag racist piece of shit fdr knew that was not the case.
Again, funny thing about collaborators, you'll never know who might become one.
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Is that why every US CITIZEN of German or Italian descent on the East Coast was thrown into fdr concentration camps? Oh wait, they weren't. Hmmm...what could have been the difference?
 
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Again, Trump throws kids into cages, and Mexico isn't at war with us....
The people in obama's detention areas (obama built those cages, dumbass) were not detained for their race, appearance, or country of origin (not all from Mexico, you idiot), and unlike most victims of the fucking scumbag fdr's concentration camps, none were US CITIZENS.
 

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......FDR was threatened by a GENOCIDAL enemy....
NONE of which were to be found in his concentration camps. Instead, the bravest, toughest, most highly decorated unit in American military history came largely from that outrage against the US Constitution and everything it stands for.
 

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...he had a legitimate concern about 100,000 people of questionable loyalty.
AGAIN, his own naval intelligence told him the AMERICAN CITIZENS who would be thrown into his concentration camps were loyal, dependable citizens.
 
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Is that why every US CITIZEN of German or Italian descent on the East Coast was thrown into fdr concentration camps? Oh wait, they weren't. Hmmm...what could have been the difference?
Lots of difference. First, Germany and Japan didn't bomb Pearl Harbor or sponsor the Bataan Death March. This is hard for modern people to understand, being inundated by tons of movies about WWII where the Jews in Hollywood can't stop complaining about the Nazis, but very few movies have been made about the Pacific War and what a bunch of bastards the Japanese were. At the time, the real anger was against Japan.

In fact, US propaganda portrayed the Japanese as sub-human monsters, while the Germans were divided into "Nazis" and "Good Germans" who were waiting to be liberated by the allies. There weren't actually any "Good Germans", the Germans fought for Hitler down to the last old man and little boy. But this was a sop to the fact that there were MILLIONS of German-American immigrants like my grandparents they didn't want to alienate.

(Side note, my Grandfather started pronouncing the family name to sound less German and wanted to be known as "Louis" instead of "Ludwig", the name he was born with.)

Second, Germany didn't have a fleet (No Aircraft carriers, one battleship, two battle cruisers... that was it.) and Italy's fleet couldn't get out of the Mediterrean Sea.

Third, Germans and Italians were locked up, if they were known to have strong Axis sympathies. In fact, they locked up some 20,000 Germans and 10,000 Italians, including Fritz Kuhn, the leader of the German-American Bund (American Nazi Party).

Happy to school you, Dripping Poop.
 

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