Washington Post audio of Trump berating and threatening Georgia Secretary of State for not "finding" votes to change election result. Sedition?

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
Asking to Find legal votes tossed is not news worthy, but did the media wiretap spy investigate report Stacy Abrams asking her voter registration (fraud) team activists to conjur up fraudelant votes? Isn't what Stacy Abrams did news worthy then?-oops!
Isn't this new spin narrative news piece proof the left admits Trump won, otherwise why the demonization conspiracy theory on election integrity against someone who you say lost?
-oops again!
Double whammy on this one ....
Not only is it not proof that trump won, it is not even coherant.
 
Update! Here is something else for you Trumpanzee moronic minions to digest:

All 10 living former defense secretaries declare election is over in forceful public letter - CNNPolitics


(CNN)All 10 living former US defense secretaries declared that the US presidential election is over in a forceful public letter published in The Washington Post on Sunday as President Donald Trump continues to deny his election loss to Joe Biden.

The letter -- signed by Dick Cheney, James Mattis, Mark Esper, Leon Panetta, Donald Rumsfeld, William Cohen, Chuck Hagel, Robert Gates, William Perry and Ashton Carter -- amounts to a remarkable show of force against Trump's subversion efforts just days before Congress is set to count Electoral College votes.

"Our elections have occurred. Recounts and audits have been conducted. Appropriate challenges have been addressed by the courts. Governors have certified the results. And the electoral college has voted. The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived," the group wrote.

Note: Many of them are Republicans! Now shut the fuck up!
Did I miss a memo? When did the USA change the constitution and put the decision on calling an election in the hands of a handful of former govt employees?
 
Update! Here is something else for you Trumpanzee moronic minions to digest:

All 10 living former defense secretaries declare election is over in forceful public letter - CNNPolitics


(CNN)All 10 living former US defense secretaries declared that the US presidential election is over in a forceful public letter published in The Washington Post on Sunday as President Donald Trump continues to deny his election loss to Joe Biden.

The letter -- signed by Dick Cheney, James Mattis, Mark Esper, Leon Panetta, Donald Rumsfeld, William Cohen, Chuck Hagel, Robert Gates, William Perry and Ashton Carter -- amounts to a remarkable show of force against Trump's subversion efforts just days before Congress is set to count Electoral College votes.

"Our elections have occurred. Recounts and audits have been conducted. Appropriate challenges have been addressed by the courts. Governors have certified the results. And the electoral college has voted. The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived," the group wrote.

Note: Many of them are Republicans! Now shut the fuck up!
Did I miss a memo? When did the USA change the constitution and put the decision on calling an election in the hands of a handful of former govt employees?
Are you one of those Russian trolls that got trump elected? You really hate this country.
 
"A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process,

Why would Trump get jail time for stuff that Dems are doing?

Well
He was impeached for what Biden did.
 
Trumpies, go and read the transcript and listen to Trump himself.

He's manic and stinks of desperation.

And could use some remedial English lessons.

But I'll state here, now and unequivocally and make this promise to all you Trumpies.

Reading the transcript or listening to the recording WILL NOT, I REPEAT... WILL NOT cause your eyes to explode or your ears to bleed.

I promise.

That your heads may figuratively explode is without doubt, but we'll cross that bridge when we get too it. :cool:
 
Trumpies, go and read the transcript and listen to Trump himself.

He's manic and stinks of desperation.

And could use some remedial English lessons.

But I'll state here, now and unequivocally and make this promise to all you Trumpies.

Reading the transcript or listening to the recording WILL NOT, I REPEAT... WILL NOT cause your eyes to explode or your ears to bleed.

I promise.

That your heads may figuratively explode is without doubt, but we'll cross that bridge when we get too it. :cool:
If this bastard doesn't go to jail over this, we've lost a country. It's that simple.
 
According to the Post report, Trump told Republican Brad Raffensperger, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.

That, Conway suggested, amounted to election tampering.

the relevant penalties for attempting or proposing fraud.

52 U.S.C § 20511(2)(B): "A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by- (A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,hall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."


And that boys and girls, is not a conspiracy theory. It is not TDS. It is not flaming or trolling. The phone call by Trump actually happened. He actually did ask the Georgia AG to act on his behalf. The federal code really does make it a crime. He really is the President, and was a candidate for reelection. This really is politics.

Which means this post by any measure belongs right here.
George Conway sez?

What, they couldn’t find drunk Hillary to get her opinion?
 
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
Asking to Find legal votes tossed is not news worthy, but did the media wiretap spy investigate report Stacy Abrams asking her voter registration (fraud) team activists to conjur up fraudelant votes? Isn't what Stacy Abrams did news worthy then?-oops!
Isn't this new spin narrative news piece proof the left admits Trump won, otherwise why the demonization conspiracy theory on election integrity against someone who you say lost?
-oops again!
Double whammy on this one ....
What is your proof legal votes were tossed? If you can't prove that, your post is worthless.
1)the post shows 0 proof 1 single vote was illegally procured for Trump, it merely spins the request for tossed votes. This is the same poor spin job they did when Trump asked for people to make sure their vote counted.
2) tossed votes like the ones where people were purposely told to vote the wrong district, so when they left thinking it was ok to vote where they were told, the vote was tossed.
Other cases, mistakes were allowed new ballots and corrections when Democrat voters but Republican's were not granted that same equal right and their votes were disqualified while Dems were not.
3) BIDEN just sliped again regarding there will be more votes than ever before in GA, because he admits they will stuff the ballots again, that is not tossing ballots, but where is the hard copy reporting on non resident voters and claims by Biden that he and Stacy have a nice voter fraud network out there?
 
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According to the Post report, Trump told Republican Brad Raffensperger, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.

That, Conway suggested, amounted to election tampering.

the relevant penalties for attempting or proposing fraud.

52 U.S.C § 20511(2)(B): "A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by- (A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,hall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."


And that boys and girls, is not a conspiracy theory. It is not TDS. It is not flaming or trolling. The phone call by Trump actually happened. He actually did ask the Georgia AG to act on his behalf. The federal code really does make it a crime. He really is the President, and was a candidate for reelection. This really is politics.

Which means this post by any measure belongs right here.
George Conway sez?

What, they couldn’t find drunk Hillary to get her opinion?

Actually the LAW sez. Doesn't matter who reads it.
 
According to the Post report, Trump told Republican Brad Raffensperger, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.

That, Conway suggested, amounted to election tampering.

the relevant penalties for attempting or proposing fraud.

52 U.S.C § 20511(2)(B): "A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by- (A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,hall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."


And that boys and girls, is not a conspiracy theory. It is not TDS. It is not flaming or trolling. The phone call by Trump actually happened. He actually did ask the Georgia AG to act on his behalf. The federal code really does make it a crime. He really is the President, and was a candidate for reelection. This really is politics.

Which means this post by any measure belongs right here.

You can't be that dumb Skew?

Here is the full quote:

"So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state. There's no way I lost Georgia. There's no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes."

Notice the lack of a threat in it? No bribery, no money offer, no blackmail nothing unlawful going on. He never says create bogus votes, just FIND 11,780 votes, which obviously means existing votes in the system he thinks are really his as he say he thinks he won by a few hundred thousand votes.

"You know what you did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal offense. That's a big risk to you and your lawyer"
.... and you're letting it happen, I'm notifying you that you're letting it happen."

--- "and it's gonna be very costly in many ways..."

THAT'S A THREAT, Dildo.

"So Brad, what are you gonna do"? It would be most unfortunate if you were to wake up some morning....

Then he goes on to declare "they're shredding ballots and removing machinery" ----- AFTER BEING SPECIFICALLY TOLD BY PEOPLE IN A POSITION TO KNOW THAT THOSE ARE *NOT* HAPPENING.

:banghead:

"Full quote" MY ASS.

And then the fucking moron goes on to announce "you have a big election coming up on Tuesday".
He's saying this to THE FUCKING PEOPLE WHO RUN THE ELECTIONS IN THE STATE. Like they wouldn't know they have an election.

CHEESES JUMPIN" CHRIST what the fuck do you NEED?

That quote was NOT in post one article....., so where did you get it?

STRAIGHT OFF THE AUDIO :banghead:

Fer fuxsake it even has SUBTITLES.

Oh it has subtilties, thanks for bringing it up as I am DEAF, which is why I didn't bother with the taped call.

Ok now I watched the 4:31 portion, it is clear Trump is full of shit, but he didn't break any laws in the conversation, and that the Secretary didn't get upset at any time, he says he and his people stand by their decision and have faithfully done their job.

Republican Brad Raffensperger never complained about the conversation as being illegal or threatening.

Here is his response to a Trump tweet:

LINK

I suggest you park your partisan silliness on this.
 
According to the Post report, Trump told Republican Brad Raffensperger, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.

That, Conway suggested, amounted to election tampering.

the relevant penalties for attempting or proposing fraud.

52 U.S.C § 20511(2)(B): "A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by- (A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,hall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."


And that boys and girls, is not a conspiracy theory. It is not TDS. It is not flaming or trolling. The phone call by Trump actually happened. He actually did ask the Georgia AG to act on his behalf. The federal code really does make it a crime. He really is the President, and was a candidate for reelection. This really is politics.

Which means this post by any measure belongs right here.

You can't be that dumb Skew?

Here is the full quote:

"So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state. There's no way I lost Georgia. There's no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes."

Notice the lack of a threat in it? No bribery, no money offer, no blackmail nothing unlawful going on. He never says create bogus votes, just FIND 11,780 votes, which obviously means existing votes in the system he thinks are really his as he say he thinks he won by a few hundred thousand votes.

You are trying to make sense to people who are absolute morons.
 
impeached for what?????!!!!
Trump knows he won the real vote. That's why Democrats on this board want him impeached.
Trump knows that he is facing criminal and civil jeopardy th e second that he becomes a private citizen . Thyat is why he is so pathetically despaate to cling to power. I am loving the spectical!
He won't face any charges after being pardoned.
State charges? I think not.
 
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
Asking to Find legal votes tossed is not news worthy, but did the media wiretap spy investigate report Stacy Abrams asking her voter registration (fraud) team activists to conjur up fraudelant votes? Isn't what Stacy Abrams did news worthy then?-oops!
Isn't this new spin narrative news piece proof the left admits Trump won, otherwise why the demonization conspiracy theory on election integrity against someone who you say lost?
-oops again!
Double whammy on this one ....
What is your proof legal votes were tossed? If you can't prove that, your post is worthless.
1)the post shows 0 proof 1 single vote was illegally procured, it merely spins the request for tossed votes.
2) tossed votes like the ones where people were purposely told to vote the wrong district, so when they left thinking it was ok to vote where they were told, the vote was tossed.
Other cases, mistakes were allowed new ballots and corrections when Democrat voters but Republican's were not granted that same equal right and their votes were disqualified while Dems were not.
3) BIDEN just sliped again regarding there will be more votes than ever before in GA, because he admits they will stuff the ballots again, that is not tossing ballots, but where is the hard copy reporting on non resident voters and claims by Biden that he and Stacy have a nice voter fraud network out there?
So, you're a liar. You provided no documentation and no proof. Nothing! Everything you claimed came right out of your ass. Total fantasy! Pathetic! Why do you lie? You know you're going to get caught.
 
Ummmmmm yeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh.
If Trump gets prison time for "election tampering", the Democrats should be executed behind the Capitol.

There ain't nothing here about political parties, DUMBASS. Both Rump and the state officials he's trying to shake down, are Republicans.

What a fucking dolt.

I can agree that Trump shouldn't talk to the Georgia Secretary of State in the first place, that was wrong of him.

Why?
 
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
Asking to Find legal votes tossed is not news worthy, but did the media wiretap spy investigate report Stacy Abrams asking her voter registration (fraud) team activists to conjur up fraudelant votes? Isn't what Stacy Abrams did news worthy then?-oops!
Isn't this new spin narrative news piece proof the left admits Trump won, otherwise why the demonization conspiracy theory on election integrity against someone who you say lost?
-oops again!
Double whammy on this one ....
What is your proof legal votes were tossed? If you can't prove that, your post is worthless.
1)the post shows 0 proof 1 single vote was illegally procured, it merely spins the request for tossed votes.
2) tossed votes like the ones where people were purposely told to vote the wrong district, so when they left thinking it was ok to vote where they were told, the vote was tossed.
Other cases, mistakes were allowed new ballots and corrections when Democrat voters but Republican's were not granted that same equal right and their votes were disqualified while Dems were not.
3) BIDEN just sliped again regarding there will be more votes than ever before in GA, because he admits they will stuff the ballots again, that is not tossing ballots, but where is the hard copy reporting on non resident voters and claims by Biden that he and Stacy have a nice voter fraud network out there?
How is Biden saying there will be more votes proof of stuffing the ballots? Let me help you out there liar, there is no proof.
 
Trumpies, go and read the transcript and listen to Trump himself.

He's manic and stinks of desperation.

And could use some remedial English lessons.

But I'll state here, now and unequivocally and make this promise to all you Trumpies.

Reading the transcript or listening to the recording WILL NOT, I REPEAT... WILL NOT cause your eyes to explode or your ears to bleed.

I promise.

That your heads may figuratively explode is without doubt, but we'll cross that bridge when we get too it. :cool:
WAS it a news broadcast recording like the Biden one ADMITTING his Ukraine quid pro quo getting the prosecuter fired to protect his son?
That admission to a crime that disqualified Biden to run is bad enough, but then you let him run on what was claimed impeachable offence & then you let him say he would never interfere with his son's investigation, which he showed is a lie and he already did when talking about Bill Barr in an obstructive way. So everything you claimed disqualified Trump you must disqualify Biden as President.-your standard=stalemate!
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I went and read the post...

1) They always fucking lie when they "tell you" what a video says instead of playing it.....they are manipulating
2) Trump's comments were about getting GA to do what they are required to do by going after fraudulent votes and nothing more.
3) Stop spreading propaganda
1. the entire audio was posted. It's bad.
2. Georgia has done what they are required to do. The accusations of fraud are meritless. Throwing out votes based on phony accusations is illegal.
3. Ditto.
 
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