Was Trump's Oligarch's Slashing Frenzy as Self-Harming as were Trumpers Giuliani's and Lindell's Delusions?

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Elon Musk's close encounters of the Trumpy kind have cost him. Was the immigrant slasher's frenzy an expensive, largely ineffectual, exercise to entertain the unwashed, scarlet-capped hoi polloi?​

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Elon Musk Has Lost $122 Billion In Wealth In 2025​

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With both the courts and Congress refusing to provide legal cover to spending cuts that Musk forced through, the administration is running out of options for ensuring that its unilateral reductions take effect — potentially limiting DOGE’s lasting impact despite the disruption it brought to the government.​

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“None of the activities of the DOGE have heretofore had any impact on the budget, the debt or the deficit. Until Congress acts, those savings don’t really become real,” said Robert Shea, a Republican who served in senior political roles at the White House budget office...​

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Musk has claimed $160 billion in savings so far...​

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The administration initially floated sending $9.3 billion of DOGE cuts to the Hill, which would encompass DOGE’s elimination of the main agency providing foreign aid, the U.S. Agency for International Development, as well as zeroing out some money for public broadcasting... ​

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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky), a fiscal hawk, said he hoped the Senate would be able to pass such a small amount of cuts.​

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[kyzr]

If congress refuses to slash the "waste, fraud, and theft" they will be replaced by people who will.

$375B EPA slush fund handled by John Podesta gave billions to charities founded only months earlier

By Isabel Vincent The Biden administration funneled at least $20 billion dollars into environmental groups, most of which had only recently been founded, The Post has discovered. In one case, forme…

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Administrator Zeldin Terminates Biden-Harris $20B 'Gold Bar' Grants | US EPA

EPA News Release: Administrator Zeldin Terminates Biden-Harris $20B 'Gold Bar' Grants

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ICYMI: Administrator Lee Zeldin Finds Gold Bars from EPA at Stacey Abrams’ Connected Group, Biden-Harris Ethical Red Flags | US EPA

EPA News Release: ICYMI: Administrator Lee Zeldin Finds Gold Bars from EPA at Stacey Abrams’ Connected Group, Biden-Harris Ethical Red Flags

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The $42 billion internet program that has connected 0 people

The federal BEAD program makes little sense with the rate of private markets providing internet access.

www.washingtonpolicy.org

Add $160b DOGE findings and there is at least $600b of "waste, fraud, and theft"

 

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If congress refuses to slash the "waste, fraud, and theft" they will be replaced by people who will.

$375B EPA slush fund handled by John Podesta gave billions to charities founded only months earlier

By Isabel Vincent The Biden administration funneled at least $20 billion dollars into environmental groups, most of which had only recently been founded, The Post has discovered. In one case, forme…

www.climatedepot.com

Administrator Zeldin Terminates Biden-Harris $20B 'Gold Bar' Grants | US EPA

EPA News Release: Administrator Zeldin Terminates Biden-Harris $20B 'Gold Bar' Grants

www.epa.gov

ICYMI: Administrator Lee Zeldin Finds Gold Bars from EPA at Stacey Abrams’ Connected Group, Biden-Harris Ethical Red Flags | US EPA

EPA News Release: ICYMI: Administrator Lee Zeldin Finds Gold Bars from EPA at Stacey Abrams’ Connected Group, Biden-Harris Ethical Red Flags

www.epa.gov

The $42 billion internet program that has connected 0 people

The federal BEAD program makes little sense with the rate of private markets providing internet access.

www.washingtonpolicy.org

Add $160b DOGE findings and there is at least $600b of "waste, fraud, and theft"

Rather than just randomly slashing, Trumpers might want to try document actual instances of "waste, fraud, and theft."

E.g., who, specifically, is being prosecuted for "theft"?

 

[Mac1958]

Elon Musk's close encounters of the Trumpy kind have cost him. Was the immigrant slasher's frenzy an expensive, largely ineffectual, exercise to entertain the unwashed, scarlet-capped hoi polloi?​

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Elon Musk Has Lost $122 Billion In Wealth In 2025​

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With both the courts and Congress refusing to provide legal cover to spending cuts that Musk forced through, the administration is running out of options for ensuring that its unilateral reductions take effect — potentially limiting DOGE’s lasting impact despite the disruption it brought to the government.​

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“None of the activities of the DOGE have heretofore had any impact on the budget, the debt or the deficit. Until Congress acts, those savings don’t really become real,” said Robert Shea, a Republican who served in senior political roles at the White House budget office...​

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Musk has claimed $160 billion in savings so far...​

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The administration initially floated sending $9.3 billion of DOGE cuts to the Hill, which would encompass DOGE’s elimination of the main agency providing foreign aid, the U.S. Agency for International Development, as well as zeroing out some money for public broadcasting... ​

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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky), a fiscal hawk, said he hoped the Senate would be able to pass such a small amount of cuts.​

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It wasn't the "what". Streamling government and making it more efficient is always a good idea.

It was the "how". Like pretty much everything Trump touches, the caveman approach doesn't work well in a modern competitive world. Post-chainsaw, we'll need to dig through the debris to see what is actually needed or not needed.

 

[kyzr]

It wasn't the "what". Streamlining government and making it more efficient is always a good idea.
It was the "how". Like pretty much everything Trump touches, the caveman approach doesn't work well in a modern competitive world. Post-chainsaw, we'll need to dig through the debris to see what is actually needed or not needed.

How? You mean modernizing the Federal government by some of the finest business minds on the planet?
Trump is not micromanaging Musk and DOGE, he gave them the job of fixing the disaster that Biden and prior administrations left. When the geniuses are finished the Federal government will finally be able to pass an audit.

 

[kyzr]

Rather than just randomly slashing, Trumpers might want to try document actual instances of "waste, fraud, and theft."
E.g., who, specifically, is being prosecuted for "theft"?

Three Key Moments: Hearing on Prosecuting Fraudsters for Stealing Billions in Pandemic Unemployment Benefits from American Workers – Ways and Means

waysandmeans.house.gov

Criminal and Civil Cases

oig.justice.gov

Holding Corrupt Public Officials Accountable

www.justice.gov

Fraud Section (FRD)

www.justice.gov

 

[Silent Warrior]

The one thing most of the people criticizing Musk have in common is their total lack of business acumen.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Musk is a patriot all in to save America and humanity from the demon cult.

If the demon cult comes back to power, all who opposed it will be dead by 2030.

Musk

 

[Sunni Man]

Mr Musk is a patriotic American who cares our country and people.
Which is why the crazed lefty loon Democrats hate him.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Mr Musk is a patriotic American who cares our country and people.
Which is why the crazed lefty loon Democrats hate him.

Musk and other MAGA leaders know that if they don't succeed, they will all likely be dead by 2030.

America's choice...

Nuremberg 2.0 or WW3

 

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It wasn't the "what". Streamling government and making it more efficient is always a good idea.

It was the "how". Like pretty much everything Trump touches, the caveman approach doesn't work well in a modern competitive world. Post-chainsaw, we'll need to dig through the debris to see what is actually needed or not needed.

One wonders how the wholesale firing those responsible for government efficiency enhances government efficiency.

Trump fires 17 government watchdogs at various federal agencies​

Trump dismissed inspectors general at agencies within the Defense Department, State Department, Energy Department, Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Department of Veterans Affairs and more, notifying them by email from the White House Presidential Personnel Office, the Washington Post first reported.​

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"It’s a widespread massacre," one of the terminated inspectors general told the Post. "Whoever Trump puts in now will be viewed as loyalists, and that undermines the entire system.",,,​

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Inspectors general at federal agencies are called on to investigate government waste, fraud and abuse. They operate independently and can serve in multiple administrations.​

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The mass firing is Trump's latest attempt to force the federal bureaucracy into submission after he shut down diversity, equity and inclusion programs, rescinded job offers and sidelined more than 150 national security and foreign policy officials​

 

[Mac1958]

One wonders how the wholesale firing those responsible for government efficiency enhance government efficiency.

I really don't think this is about efficiency for the base. They're thirsty for aggression, carnage, rage, revenge, chaos, and owning the libs. They have been profoundly wounded (don't ask me for details on that, I don't have an answer), and Trump is their primal scream. Burn it all down, we'll worry about the rest later.

Whatever the hell is driving them, it's deep and personal, that's for sure. I don't know.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

I really don't think this is about efficiency for the base. They're thirsty for aggression, carnage, rage, revenge, chaos, and owning the libs. They have been profoundly wounded (don't ask me for details on that, I don't have an answer), and Trump is their primal scream. Burn it all down, we'll worry about the rest later.

Whatever the hell is driving them, it's deep and personal, that's for sure. I don't know.

We are driven by our desire to protect America and our children from perverted freak democrats who are traitors working to intentionally collapse America.

 

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I really don't think this is about efficiency for the base. They're thirsty for aggression, carnage, rage, revenge, chaos, and owning the libs. They have been profoundly wounded (don't ask me for details on that, I don't have an answer), and Trump is their primal scream. Burn it all down, we'll worry about the rest later.

Whatever the hell is driving them, it's deep and personal, that's for sure. I don't know.

It's truly inexplicable. One night assume that a cult of personality requires at least the semblance of a personality that isn't so blatantly insipid, that of an ignorant, vindictive, petty cry baby whose compulsion is to always blame others for whatever he befouls.

As his disciples rage against their demonic "liberals," our judiciary is attempting to preserve some semblance of the Constitutional balance of power.

57 percent of Americans think Trump has gone too far in utilizing his presidential powers to achieve his goals. Around 32 percent said the president has used the right amount of power while 10 percent argued the commander-in-chief has not gone far enough.​

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5280064-trump-overstepping-powers-judges-survey/ ​

 

[Mac1958]

It's truly inexplicable. One night assume that a cult of personality requires at least the semblance of a personality that isn't so blatantly insipid, that of an ignorant, vindictive, petty cry baby whose compulsion is to always blame others for whatever he befouls.

I understand it more than I did early on. I understand the issues being addressed (and I definitely have agreements with several of them), but the abject delusions just stop me in my tracks. And worse are the condescening, I-know-something-you-don't-know smiles when they're spouting absoute nonsense, fiction, fantasy. I just have no idea how to respond to that.

This relationship is spiritual, familial. Ironic, since he's essentially the opposite of the Christ they claim to follow, and since their own families have fallen apart over this.

 

[BluesLegend]

Mr Musk is a patriotic American who cares our country and people.
Which is why the crazed lefty loon Democrats hate him.

Musk exposed the Dems theft and corruption, he's their public enemy #1 now.

 

[BluesLegend]

Musk is a patriot all in to save America and humanity from the demon cult.

If the demon cult comes back to power, all who opposed it will be dead by 2030.

Musk

Musk is 10x more dangerous to Democrats than Trump because Musk has a stand up reputation with the American people that crosses party lines. So when Musk proved the Democrats are corrupt thieves bilking taxpayers out of billions it hits home. That's why the corrupt Dems are squealing like stuck pigs.

Musk DELETED the Democrats ability to deny the waste, fraud and corruption. That's why he's kryptonite to Democrats.

 

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I understand it more than I did early on. I understand the issues being addressed (and I definitely have agreements with several of them), but the abject delusions just stop me in my tracks. And worse are the condescening, I-know-something-you-don't-know smiles when they're spouting absoute nonsense, fiction, fantasy. I just have no idea how to respond to that.

This relationship is spiritual, familial. Ironic, since he's essentially the opposite of the Christ they claim to follow, and since their own families have fallen apart over this.

When he incited his goons via his baseless lies to attack the Capitol and prevent the will of the People being certified,
prominent Republicans unambiguously blamed him in the aftermath.

Yet, inexplicably, he is risen.

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I cannot imagine any aspirant to the presidency with a semblance of integrity blurting out his insipid tripe - in a presidential debate! - and it not resulting in his Party's expedited disposal of such noxious waste in the Potomac.

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It's baffling, and I'll leave the post-mortem to historians, if any survive.

 

[Silent Warrior]

When he incited his goons via his baseless lies to attack the Capitol and prevent the will of the People being certified,
prominent Republicans unambiguously blamed him in the aftermath.

Yet, inexplicably, he is risen.

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I cannot imagine any aspirant to the presidency with a semblance of integrity blurting out his insipid tripe - in a presidential debate! - and it not resulting in his Party's expedited disposal of such noxious waste in the Potomac.

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It's baffling, and I'll leave the post-mortem to historians, if any survive.

Your postings show you don't understand anything.

 

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Your postings show you don't understand anything.

Your impotence in refuting the documented facts that I have provided is obvious.