was there a Germany before the year 1871?

[Robert W]

in the beginning there were 4 tribes …

franks, saxons, allemans, bavarians …. and some smaller ones

and over time they became Germans

I was engaged to a woman who then lived in Berlin. She came down to meet me in Bavaria and she said some of the German words used in Bavaria she did not understand.

 

[Zebra]

tthen there was the Empire of Charlemagne = Germany plus France

 

[Robert W]

younknow about history!

IT helps that I lived there in Deutschland for about 1.5 years.

 

[Robert W]

tthen there was the Empire of Charlemagne = Germany plus France

Maybe then they called it Charlie??? kidding you of course.

 

[Zebra]

I was engaged to a woman who then lived in Berlin. She came down to meet me in Bavaria and she said some of the German words used in Bavaria she did not understand.

naturally so!

germany is multi-centured

 

[Robert W]

Why can’t we call them by their name?

Why do some call this country America?

 

[Zebra]

then the empire was divided … first into 3 parts … later 2 parts

 

[Zebra]

Why do some call this country America?

because martin waldseemüller called it so

 

[ReinyDays]

Very strange post ... the nation-state of Germany was founded in 1871 ... the better question is when did nation-states become widespread ... some would say the French Revolution just 100 year prior ...

Before we had feudal fiefdoms ... what we know as "Germany" today were dozens of little fiefdoms not really organized into anything we'd call a country today ... more like the personal property of the Habsburg and Hohenzollern families ...

God is the King of Kings ... The Pope is His Earthly representative ... so all must bow their knees before his excellency The Pope ... nation-states and democracy is of Satan and devil worshipers ... choose wisely ...

 

[Zincwarrior]

there were German lands long before 1871

But not Germany. Germany is new. It was created by Prussia via the France Prussian War, War with Daneland, and Austria-Prussian War. Before that most of those are states that belonged to the Holy Roman Empire, or the Austria-Hungarian Empire.

 

[shockedcanadian]

There wasn't a Canada, I know this for a fact.

 

[boevans]

A area of tuetonia has lasted for almost a thousand years, with Germany as a whole about 150 of the latter part of it.

 

[Mushroom]

Germany is about 1500 years old …. or more

"Germania" is from the 1st Century Romans, which is what they called the region. Because many of the tribes that lived there were recorded as the "Germani".

If was not a nation, just the name of a region. Not unlike "Palestine", which was a name for a region long before it was the name of a nation.

 

[whitehall]

The backward European countries were still depending on kings and monarchs in the mid 1800's while the United States of America had almost a century of democracy. Makes you proud don't it?

 

[Failzero]

Places like Upper & Lower Silesia and Eastern Pomerania and East Prussia had Their own frontiers & Rulers

 

[Zebra]

A area of tuetonia has lasted for almost a thousand years, with Germany as a whole about 150 of the latter part of it.

no ….

 

[Zebra]

The backward European countries were still depending on kings and monarchs in the mid 1800's while the United States of America had almost a century of democracy. Makes you proud don't it?

the Reichs.Städte within Germany were little Republics before America was discovered

 

[martybegan]

there were German lands long before 1871

Lands yes? A unified Germany? No.

The closest before the north/south split into Imperial Germany and Austria-Hungary was the Holy Roman empire.

That's not Germany as we know it.

 

[whitehall]

the Reichs.Städte within Germany were little Republics before America was discovered

My point. Hardly republics but rather little warring states barely united under a primitive monarchy. Still little warring states under a primitive monarchy after a hundred years of democracy in the Colonies.

 

[Bleipriester]

But not Germany. Germany is new. It was created by Prussia via the France Prussian War, War with Daneland, and Austria-Prussian War. Before that most of those are states that belonged to the Holy Roman Empire, or the Austria-Hungarian Empire.
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That is actually not true. After Napoleon put an end to the HRE, a loose German union was created in 1815: The German Bound. It had a constitution ("Deutsche Bundesakte") but had actually no authority but was responsible for security only, similar to the HRE. The Bound was eliminated after the war between Prussia and Bavaria. A North-German Bound was created, led by Prussia. Later, several German states, also Bavaria, joined and the German Bound was revived. It then was but a formality to rename it into German Reich because the member states were already economically interweaved due to their membership in the German Customs Union:

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