was there a conspiracy to kill John F Kennedy?

[Zebra]

i know that this is an old question.

we may never know.

what do you think?

i think it unlikely.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Oswald had ties to Communism, visited Cuba and the Cuban government wanted Kennedy dead because of the Bay of Pigs incident. Oswald just gave the Cubans what they wanted.

 

[Donald H]

Most Likely:

Oswald was a US Marine and was involved in the government's conspiracy. Debating whether he fired all the shots is only a manufactured distraction from the true story.

 

[PeterPilot]

i know that this is an old question.

we may never know.

what do you think?

i think it unlikely.

Yes, an old question. A person asking that question today shows he is not very well read, and quite gullible. Only fools buy into the stories told by known liars.

 

[Zebra]

Oswald had ties to Communism, visited Cuba and the Cuban government wanted Kennedy dead because of the Bay of Pigs incident. Oswald just gave the Cubans what they wanted.

When did he visit Cuba?
And he spent a long time in Russia.

 

[Zebra]

Most Likely:

Oswald was a US Marine and was involved in the government's conspiracy. Debating whether he fired all the shots is only a manufactured distraction from the true story.

What is the true story?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

i know that this is an old question.

we may never know.

what do you think?

i think it unlikely.

Same Conspiracy Removed Khrushchev

There's been a conspiracy to create intentionally absurd conspiracy theories.

They get off to a wrong start when they present that Preppy Prettyboy as a martyr. In reality, he was an arrogant loose cannon who almost got us into a nuclear war.

 

[Zebra]

on second thoughts, I might have voted for maybe

 

[Donald H]

What is the true story?

Everybody can have their own story but Oswald being a part of the plot works the best.

Ironically, it's most likely about the same with the faked assassination attempt on Trump. The kid was a part of the plot.

 

[BothWings]

It has occurred to me that maybe Oswald was told to protect the president as part of a "secret operation" in order to put him there at the right time. Next thing he knows he's being accused of killing him. And before he can reveal this he is killed by Jack Ruby, who himself dies of a cancer related embolism just before a retrial is to take place. Seems even though Ruby's death sentence was overturned, he was still slated to die in prison. Hmmm. Interesting. Anyone who thinks the government can't give you cancer, a heart attack or a stroke almost on demand should think again.

And then there was evidence that got tampered with.

The whole thing reeks of multiple patsies and a multi-layered cover-up that only a police or intelligence agency could pull off.

 

[Zebra]

Everybody can have their own story but Oswald being a part of the plot works the best.

Ironically, it's most likely about the same with the faked assassination attempt on Trump. The kid was a part of the plot.

faked?

 

[Zebra]

It has occurred to me that maybe Oswald was told to protect the president as part of a "secret operation" in order to put him there at the right time. Next thing he knows he's being accused of killing him. And before he can reveal this he is killed by Jack Ruby, who himself dies of a cancer related embolism just before a retrial is to take place. Seems even though Ruby's death sentence was overturned, he was still slated to die in prison. Hmmm. Interesting. Anyone who thinks the government can't give you cancer, a heart attack or a stroke almost on demand should think again.

And then there was evidence that got tampered with.

The whole thing reeks of multiple patsies and a multi-layered cover-up that only a police or intelligence agency could pull off.

Oswald as protector?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Most Likely:

Oswald was a US Marine and was involved in the government's conspiracy. Debating whether he fired all the shots is only a manufactured distraction from the true story.

First you have to demonstrate a conspiracy

you cant

 

[Soupnazi630]

It has occurred to me that maybe Oswald was told to protect the president as part of a "secret operation" in order to put him there at the right time. Next thing he knows he's being accused of killing him. And before he can reveal this he is killed by Jack Ruby, who himself dies of a cancer related embolism just before a retrial is to take place. Seems even though Ruby's death sentence was overturned, he was still slated to die in prison. Hmmm. Interesting. Anyone who thinks the government can't give you cancer, a heart attack or a stroke almost on demand should think again.

And then there was evidence that got tampered with.

The whole thing reeks of multiple patsies and a multi-layered cover-up that only a police or intelligence agency could pull off.

No one can give you cancer

You should think again, cancer does not work that war

There was no such evidence that got tampered with

 

[Soupnazi630]

Oswald had ties to Communism, visited Cuba and the Cuban government wanted Kennedy dead because of the Bay of Pigs incident. Oswald just gave the Cubans what they wanted.

he never visited cuba

we do not know exactly why he wanted kennedy dead. Just that hemurdered kennedy and acted alone

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yes, an old question. A person asking that question today shows he is not very well read, and quite gullible. Only fools buy into the stories told by known liars.

yes the the stories told by liars are all of the conspiracy theories

You are not well read if you believe any of them

 

[Soupnazi630]

Everybody can have their own story but Oswald being a part of the plot works the best.

Ironically, it's most likely about the same with the faked assassination attempt on Trump. The kid was a part of the plot.

The assassination attempt on trump was very real

 

[BothWings]

Oswald as protector?

I concede that the evidence against Oswald is overwhelming. But much of that was in place before the assassination. I also would not underestimate an intelligence agency's ability to handpick a patsy based on that, and to manufacture the rest through coercion or payoff of witnesses and also arranging for their own trained people to BE witnesses.

In my alternate view, Oswald would have been approached and prompted by a government agency to provide security for the motorcade as a Marine sniper, and then simply allowed to walk, and told not to speak to anyone after the president was dead, until debriefed by the people who had commissioned him as a security agent.

There are still many things which don't add up in spite of all the alleged "evidence" and "witnesses". Such as, why would a trained Marine marksman leave four empty shells from a revolver at the scene of a crime(murder of of Officer Tippit)?? Revolvers don't automatically eject shells! Oswald would have to deliberately take them out and leave them there! Why do that? Also, they could not determine the gun the bullets came from because they were "too deformed" (so the FBI said, the same FBI of the same J Edgar Hoover who hated the Kennedys). That's a double edged sword right there. Nobody could prove it but also no one could disprove it.

IMO, the FBI would have been completely capable of setting up such an assassination with layers and layers of diversion and cover-up. Their job is usually to remove such layers to get to the truth but they would be capable of putting them on as well. They would know exactly what to do, and as the highest police agency in the land not too many people would dare question them. They would be able to redirect the subsequent investigations anywhere they wanted.

 

[Soupnazi630]

I concede that the evidence against Oswald is overwhelming. But much of that was in place before the assassination. I also would not underestimate an intelligence agency's ability to handpick a patsy based on that, and to manufacture the rest through coercion or payoff of witnesses and also arranging for their own trained people to BE witnesses.

In my alternate view, Oswald would have been approached and prompted by a government agency to provide security for the motorcade as a Marine sniper, and then simply allowed to walk, and told not to speak to anyone after the president was dead, until debriefed by the people who had commissioned him as a security agent.

There are still many things which don't add up in spite of all the alleged "evidence" and "witnesses". Such as, why would a trained Marine marksman leave four empty shells from a revolver at the scene of a crime(murder of of Officer Tippit)?? Revolvers don't automatically eject shells! Oswald would have to deliberately take them out and leave them there! Why do that? Also, they could not determine the gun the bullets came from because they were "too deformed" (so the FBI said, the same FBI of the same J Edgar Hoover who hated the Kennedys). That's a double edged sword right there. Nobody could prove it but also no one could disprove it.

IMO, the FBI would have been completely capable of setting up such an assassination with layers and layers of diversion and cover-up. Their job is usually to remove such layers to get to the truth but they would be capable of putting them on as well. They would know exactly what to do, and as the highest police agency in the land not too many people would dare question them. They would be able to redirect the subsequent investigations anywhere they wanted.

Much evidence is in place in EVERY murder case before the crime

Never in the history of the history fo the US government have they been known to randomly hire someone off the streets as " extra security "

he left those empty shell casings because he reloaded. Not a mystery

The government in general is not capable of such a cover up. They are too incompetant

 

[BothWings]

Much evidence is in place in EVERY murder case before the crime

Never in the history of the history fo the US government have they been known to randomly hire someone off the streets as " extra security "

he left those empty shell casings because he reloaded. Not a mystery.

Your naivete is almost beyond words, but....

The point is they would have chosen their candidate based on the evidence that was in place before the crime. They chose a man who fit the crime. How hard of a concept is that to understand?

And while it is almost certainly true that the FBI has never hired a person off the streets for security, Oswald himself may have been dumb enough to believe them if prompted. He certainly didnt seem to be a shining pillar of intelligence. His IQ was just 103 and he was also emotionally disturbed since childhood and likely easily misled by someone more intelligent than him. Is that also hard to understand? Maybe your IQ is comparable.
I will also give it to you, that he may well have reloaded. However, if he smacked the ejection lever, the remaining loaded bullet or bullets would also have popped out. None were found. So by your logic he would have picked those up yet left the empties. You didn't think about that part. So there's that. Even someone with an IQ of 103 who had already done a good job at evading being caught, and with several years of military training would likely know better.