Was Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus mentored by the Essene Jewish community?

[DennisPTate]

Was Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and his cousin John the Baptist mentored and raised up by members of the Essene Jewish Community.

One of the best books on this topic is by near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D.

"You do not understand this life, he said on a later occasion, so you do not understand what you can achieve. You think that you were born and die and have only the time in between to live. The Sadducees do not even believe in the resurrection. And the Pharisees and Essenes believe you are saved or damned on the basis of what you do here in this life.

So you judge and condemn others and forsake love in order to enter heaven. Yet I tell you that the Father has many heavens and many homes for you. This is not your only life, and these are not the only things you have to learn. You will have lives in other times and places.

Do not judge the gentiles? You may have been a Gentile. Do not judge the prostitute You may have been a prostitute. Do not judge the Roman or Greek? You may have been those.

"The Father wishes you to know the life of the world in all its conditions so that you may be able to love those in all conditions. He wishes you to learn poverty and wealth, weakness and strength, sickness and health so that, in all these, you may seek Him and find Him.

Is He the Father only of the righteous? No, he is Father of all and Mother of all. All may come to God and find the love appropriate to their condition. Are you poor? Learn to love your fellows. Are you rich? Learn to give of your surplus to those who have nothing. Are you in a place of power? Learn to use your power for the good of others. Learn the love appropriate to the condition you are in and all conditions will become blessed.

"So, do not fear what people can do to your body, because you will have many more of those. Rather, avoid those who can kill the soul within you, those who would destroy love and the light of your soul. I tell you, you will have much more to learn then, and at the end of the Age, those who have not learned love will enter the Long Sleep, while those who have learned love, will inherit the New Earth which the Father prepares for them."

"In each life, you are affected by what happened in other lives, but you in turn can affect those lives. The Father has not put you in a prison, that you can change nothing. Rather, you can do anything when your inner eyes are opened and you see the Kingdom within."

"Now, even you who follow me see dimly as through a fog. So do not, in that condition, set up laws for others to follow. Rather, teach others to grow in spirit so that their eyes may be opened to the peace and love of the Father."

The Father wishes good for you, not evil. If then, you bring your fears and errors before the Father in meditation, He will help you to understand and be free. The Father does not condemn: you condemn yourself."

"If you judge, you will be judged. If you condemn, you are already condemned. If you do not love, how will you know love? If you are cruel, cruelty will come to you. What you are within yourself ----- that you will draw to yourself." (Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D., The Thomas Book, Near Death, A Quest and a New Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus.
page 117,118 )

 

[Manonthestreet]

Why would he need mentoring, he knows everything.

 

[DennisPTate]

Why would he need mentoring, he knows everything.

Or did he induce a near death experience through forty days of fasting so that he could remember what he had forgotten in order to play out the role that YHWH gave to him?

For the record I do not know the answer to my own question but this question reminds me of the near death experience of Orthodox Jewish Rabbi Alon Anava who had a near death experience back in 2001.


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[CrusaderFrank]

A dear friend, a 33rd Mason knighted at Rosslyn, said that Yeshua was an Essene

 

[DennisPTate]

A dear friend, a 33rd Mason knighted at Rosslyn, said that Yeshua was an Essene

Wow!!!!!

It is a rather tiny minority who know about that fact!

More is coming out through the Dead Sea Scrolls though.

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The Thomas Book Near Death, a Quest and a New Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus: MacDonald PH D, Bruce Fraser: 9781608608195: Books - Amazon.ca

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[0311]

Was Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and his cousin John the Baptist mentored and raised up by members of the Essene Jewish Community.

One of the best books on this topic is by near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D.

At least you go the spelling correct. But Yeshua never lived. He, like the non-existent Skyman are a fiction.

 

[DennisPTate]

At least you go the spelling correct. But Yeshua never lived. He, like the non-existent Skyman are a fiction.

Very powerful people want you to believe that because the people who set up Dr. Tony Fauci over decades cannot produce people as obedient as he was unless they have belief in some variation on Atheism.

Once the truth comes out about hidden invisible dimensions the scheme to control the world takes a serious hit.


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"It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"

The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it? An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
....

"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."

...

"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)

 

[buttercup]

Interesting topic, DennisPTate.

This reminds me of something. I won't take your thread off topic, but I highly recommend the documentary Christspiracy. I've come to believe that early Christianity was very different than the Christianity of today. At least in some ways. That film gets into one of the main differences, but it's a controversial topic so I'll just say people should watch it and leave it at that.

 

[DennisPTate]

Interesting topic, DennisPTate.

This reminds me of something. I won't take your thread off topic, but I highly recommend the documentary Christspiracy. I've come to believe that early Christianity was very different than the Christianity of today. At least in some ways. That film gets into one of the main differences, but it's a controversial topic so I'll just say people should watch it and leave it at that.

You are absolutely correct. Early Christianity was actually a lot like the modern Messianic Jewish movement. Early Christianity would be a lot like the modern Rabbi Jonathan Cahn. In my opinion that is a direction that I would love to see this topic go off in.

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"The first Church was Jewish. If a Gentile wanted to follow the Messiah, he had to convert to Judaism. Then Peter had a revelation that Gentiles did not have to convert to Judaism to be saved (see Acts 10). The Jerusalem Council meeting determined that Gentiles did not have to be circumcised. There were only four easily followed requirements. They were to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood (Acts 15:20). After all, James said, they could learn more about God by hear- ing the words of Moses every Saturday in the syna- gogue (see Acts 15:21). This opened the door to widespread church growth among the Gentiles. So many Gentiles were saved that the Jewish believers became a minority.

The first Jewish followers of Jesus were called Nazarenes (part of the Essenes sect of Judaism dis- cussed in Chapter 3). They practiced traditional Judaism and were widely accepted by unbelieving Jews. Early in the second century their numbers reached 400,000.1 In the Book of Acts, the early church fathers said to Paul: You see, brother, how many myriads [tens of thousands] of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law (Acts 21:20).

The Nazarenes acceptance by traditional Jews came to a halt in A.D. 135 when Rabbi Akiba declared that Bar Kochba was the Jewish Messiah. His followers hoped he would lead them to victory over the Romans. The Nazarenes refused to fight because they believed Jesus was the true Messiah rather than Bar Kochba. They were branded traitors, not because they believed in Jesus, but because they would not join Bar Kochbas armed struggle. Bar Kochba and his followers were quickly slaughtered by the Romans. Afterward, Jews were banned from Jerusalem.

History shows that as the center of the Christian faith moved from Jerusalem to Rome, it became increasingly Hellenized, adopting pagan customs and philosophies rather than the God-ordained practices and beliefs of the Bible. At the same time, Christianity became increasingly anti-Jewish."

[Sid Roth from his book The Incomplete Church, Chapter 7, page 64, 65)

This topic even fits with the evidence that perhaps Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus travelled to India, Nepal and Tibet during the missing years of his life?

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I have ran into about four rather impressive sources of information on this topic since the 1990's.

I do not claim to know the truth about this theory but I do know that I personally am in no position whatsoever to rule out this idea.

The number one most impressive source to me personally was the near death experience account of Mr. Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D.

The Father said to me one evening in my time of meditation, “You wonder that people other than the Jews have the secrets of the Kingdom as well as you. As you have been instructed before, the secrets of the Kingdom have been...

• DennisPTate
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Did Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus travel by foot and by camel to India, Nepal and even Tibet?​

 

[luiza]

Why would he need mentoring, he knows everything.

Nonsense .
He was just an Essene Monk with a zealot cousin who , after being saved from the cross , was built up to epic "Hollywood" size in a Roman - Jewish Psy Op .

Later hugely helped by Constantine who made damned sure his Essene background was suppressed .
Let alone him being married to the Magdalene and with three children .

 

[DennisPTate]

Interesting topic, DennisPTate.

This reminds me of something. I won't take your thread off topic, but I highly recommend the documentary Christspiracy. I've come to believe that early Christianity was very different than the Christianity of today. At least in some ways. That film gets into one of the main differences, but it's a controversial topic so I'll just say people should watch it and leave it at that.

On one level a lamb or sheep or goat or bullock or dove who was killed in the Levitical system did not really die, but would go on into a very positive realm in paradise or heaven.

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[buttercup]

On one level a lamb or sheep or goat or bullock or dove who was killed in the Levitical system did not really die, but would go on into a very positive realm in paradise or heaven.

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As I think you know...there were sects at that time who were against the entire sacrificial system and didn't participate in it. That's one of the things that documentary I mentioned goes into, and it's really, really interesting.

But in any event, Jesus' death on the cross ended the "need" for animal sacrifice, as He is the once and for all sacrifice... the spotless lamb of God.

And yes, I agree that animals will be in heaven. In fact, unlike most humans, animals are innocent. And as the bible says in Ecclesiastes 3:19, humans have no advantage over the animals. Not in the long run.

 

[Rodimus]

Was Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and his cousin John the Baptist mentored and raised up by members of the Essene Jewish Community.

One of the best books on this topic is by near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D.

I specifically remember reading in one of the Jesus books by Dolores Cannon that his name was Jesus, not Yeshua. And yes, Jesus was raised and taught by the Essenes.

 

[DennisPTate]

I specifically remember reading in one of the Jesus books by Dolores Cannon that his name was Jesus, not Yeshua. And yes, Jesus was raised and taught by the Essenes.

Wow!

Yes, the pronunciation of the name of Yeshua to Greek speaking people would be Jesus but to people who spoke Hebrew or Aramaic they would likely pronounce his name as Yeshua. In Ecuador everybody called me Daniel, rather than Dennis, because I guess Daniel is the Spanish equivalent of Dennis.

Thank you immensely for letting me know about another source of information related to the fact that Rabbi Jesus - Yeshua was mentored by the Essenes.


"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge;
because you have rejected knowledge,
I reject you from being a priest to me.
And since you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children." [Hebrews 4 : 6}

 

[DennisPTate]

As I think you know...there were sects at that time who were against the entire sacrificial system and didn't participate in it. That's one of the things that documentary I mentioned goes into, and it's really, really interesting.

But in any event, Jesus' death on the cross ended the "need" for animal sacrifice, as He is the once and for all sacrifice... the spotless lamb of God.

And yes, I agree that animals will be in heaven. In fact, unlike most humans, animals are innocent. And as the bible says in Ecclesiastes 3:19, humans have no advantage over the animals. Not in the long run.

I have to admit that I have read a powerful and impressive case for the time coming when there will be nearly zero violence on earth. But perhaps the rather few goats, sheep, red heifers, doves and bullocks who get killed in the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex, or at the restored Temple of King Solomon, perhaps those animals play a role in making the earth off the scale peaceful and more and more and more like paradise or heaven that near death experiencers report.


This topic fits with the various theories regarding the "Missing Years" in the life of Rabbi Jesus - Yeshua.

Zone1 Thread 'Did Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus travel by foot and by camel to India, Nepal and even Tibet?'

Dec 9, 2025

I have ran into about four rather impressive sources of information on this topic since the 1990's.

I do not claim to know the truth about this theory but I do know that I personally am in no position whatsoever to rule out this idea.

The number one most impressive source to me personally was the near death experience account of Mr. Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D.

The Father said to me one evening in my time of meditation, “You wonder that people other than the Jews have the secrets of the Kingdom as well as you. As you have been instructed before, the secrets of the Kingdom have been...

• DennisPTate
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• Forum: Religion and Ethics

 

[Rodimus]

Wow!

Yes, the pronunciation of the name of Yeshua to Greek speaking people would be Jesus but to people who spoke Hebrew or Aramaic they would likely pronounce his name as Yeshua. In Ecuador everybody called me Daniel, rather than Dennis, because I guess Daniel is the Spanish equivalent of Dennis.

Thank you immensely for letting me know about another source of information related to the fact that Rabbi Jesus - Yeshua was mentored by the Essenes.


"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge;
because you have rejected knowledge,
I reject you from being a priest to me.
And since you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children." [Hebrews 4 : 6}

You are very welcome Dennis!