Was Jefferson or Lincoln first Republican??

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Andrew Jackson was the first Democrat
Lincoln was the first Republican

If Lincoln was the first republican what was Jefferson???

Different political party!

The GOP that Lincoln ran on is the same one that Progressive Donald John Trump ran on and not the one that Jefferson ran on!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So then why did you fail to tell us what Jefferson did stand for and what modern Republicans stand for?

When did you fail in life?

Andrew Jackson was Conservative and Democrat and the only President to leave America Debt free!

Did you know that?

Lincoln was Progressive and Republican!

The GOP that is today is not the Republican Party Jefferson founded!

Jefferson party later became the Democratic Party and not today GOP!

Hell Jefferson left America in debt and you want to hitch your wagon to him?

why did you fail to tell us what Jefferson did stand for and what modern Republicans stand for?

He did?

So modern Republicans stand for leaving the Country with massive debt?

Never knew that how Progressive of you!

The GOP came from the WHIG Political Party and today GOP are from the Know Nothing Political movement and are nothing like Jefferson even though you have latched onto the idea that Republican must have came from the Jefferson Republican party which mean you are confessing that you are a Democrat that love wasteful spending and leaving national debt for the future to pay for like Jefferson did!

I would expect you to be more of a Jackson type of guy, but it seem you are a true blue dog after all, right?

So modern Republicans stand for leaving the Country with massive debt?

Exactly the opposite as a matter of fact which is why Republicans have tried 30 times since Jeffersons first try to make debt illegall in America to too bad the liberals killed every amendment is that simple enough for you to understand?

And yet Jackson left the country debt free, and Jefferson did not!

So try again and Democrats back then were more conservative than the WHIGS of that day.

No idea on earth why you were telling us that Jackson left the country free of debt do you have any idea what subject you were on?

 

[rightwinger]

Andrew Jackson was the first Democrat
Lincoln was the first Republican

If Lincoln was the first republican what was Jefferson???

Jefferson was in the Democratic Republican Party which was a precursor of political parties....ie Whigs but did not directly lead to either party

Jackson was the first Democrat
Lincoln the first Republican

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

When did you fail in life?

Andrew Jackson was Conservative and Democrat and the only President to leave America Debt free!

Did you know that?

Lincoln was Progressive and Republican!

The GOP that is today is not the Republican Party Jefferson founded!

Jefferson party later became the Democratic Party and not today GOP!

Hell Jefferson left America in debt and you want to hitch your wagon to him?

why did you fail to tell us what Jefferson did stand for and what modern Republicans stand for?

He did?

So modern Republicans stand for leaving the Country with massive debt?

Never knew that how Progressive of you!

The GOP came from the WHIG Political Party and today GOP are from the Know Nothing Political movement and are nothing like Jefferson even though you have latched onto the idea that Republican must have came from the Jefferson Republican party which mean you are confessing that you are a Democrat that love wasteful spending and leaving national debt for the future to pay for like Jefferson did!

I would expect you to be more of a Jackson type of guy, but it seem you are a true blue dog after all, right?

Isn't it interesting that I've asked you five times now and you are quite afraid to tell us why Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party in 1792

Because they formed what would be later called the Democratic Party and not today GOP.

Jackson was Conservative and Democratic and Johnson caused the Know Nothing voters to flee to the GOP but you are now admitting you were a democrat until LBJ forced you out!

OK for the sixth time why are you so afraid to tell us what Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party to stand for??

Why can't you understand two different parties and the names changed over the damn years?

The Republican Party you are writing about are today Democratic Party and the GOP you vote for are from the WHIG party!

Did you know they took the name and are not the same damn political party?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Andrew Jackson was the first Democrat
Lincoln was the first Republican

If Lincoln was the first republican what was Jefferson???

Different political party!

The GOP that Lincoln ran on is the same one that Progressive Donald John Trump ran on and not the one that Jefferson ran on!

So then why not tell us the name of the party that Jefferson formed and what that party stood forwhen you know that he will know the purpose of the American revolution and the basic principle of your country

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

When did you fail in life?

Andrew Jackson was Conservative and Democrat and the only President to leave America Debt free!

Did you know that?

Lincoln was Progressive and Republican!

The GOP that is today is not the Republican Party Jefferson founded!

Jefferson party later became the Democratic Party and not today GOP!

Hell Jefferson left America in debt and you want to hitch your wagon to him?

why did you fail to tell us what Jefferson did stand for and what modern Republicans stand for?

He did?

So modern Republicans stand for leaving the Country with massive debt?

Never knew that how Progressive of you!

The GOP came from the WHIG Political Party and today GOP are from the Know Nothing Political movement and are nothing like Jefferson even though you have latched onto the idea that Republican must have came from the Jefferson Republican party which mean you are confessing that you are a Democrat that love wasteful spending and leaving national debt for the future to pay for like Jefferson did!

I would expect you to be more of a Jackson type of guy, but it seem you are a true blue dog after all, right?

So modern Republicans stand for leaving the Country with massive debt?

Exactly the opposite as a matter of fact which is why Republicans have tried 30 times since Jeffersons first try to make debt illegall in America to too bad the liberals killed every amendment is that simple enough for you to understand?

And yet Jackson left the country debt free, and Jefferson did not!

So try again and Democrats back then were more conservative than the WHIGS of that day.

No idea on earth why you were telling us that Jackson left the country free of debt do you have any idea what subject you were on?

There you go!

Pointed out the fact that you are trying to claim today GOP is the party of Jefferson while not understanding that because they used the name Republican is not the same as today GOP!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

why did you fail to tell us what Jefferson did stand for and what modern Republicans stand for?

He did?

So modern Republicans stand for leaving the Country with massive debt?

Never knew that how Progressive of you!

The GOP came from the WHIG Political Party and today GOP are from the Know Nothing Political movement and are nothing like Jefferson even though you have latched onto the idea that Republican must have came from the Jefferson Republican party which mean you are confessing that you are a Democrat that love wasteful spending and leaving national debt for the future to pay for like Jefferson did!

I would expect you to be more of a Jackson type of guy, but it seem you are a true blue dog after all, right?

Isn't it interesting that I've asked you five times now and you are quite afraid to tell us why Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party in 1792

Because they formed what would be later called the Democratic Party and not today GOP.

Jackson was Conservative and Democratic and Johnson caused the Know Nothing voters to flee to the GOP but you are now admitting you were a democrat until LBJ forced you out!

OK for the sixth time why are you so afraid to tell us what Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party to stand for??

Why can't you understand two different parties and the names changed over the damn years?

The Republican Party you are writing about are today Democratic Party and the GOP you vote for are from the WHIG party!

Did you know they took the name and are not the same damn political party?

The name of Jefferson's party was the Republican Party Jeffersons republican party stood for freedom from liberal central government. This is identical to the modern party In name and philosophy 1+1 = 2

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Andrew Jackson was the first Democrat
Lincoln was the first Republican

If Lincoln was the first republican what was Jefferson???

Different political party!

The GOP that Lincoln ran on is the same one that Progressive Donald John Trump ran on and not the one that Jefferson ran on!

So then why not tell us the name of the party at Jefferson formed and what that party stood forwhen you know that he will know the purpose of the American revolution and the basic principle of your country

I did and provided links. It is you playing as if the name of Jefferson political party is the same as today GOP!

The thing is today GOP has a lot of know nothing supporters which left the Democratic Party when Johnson chased you from the party!

It is you that can not understand the reality is the Democratic party came from Jefferson Republican Party and not today GOP!

You are a Know Nothing WHIG!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

why did you fail to tell us what Jefferson did stand for and what modern Republicans stand for?

He did?

So modern Republicans stand for leaving the Country with massive debt?

Never knew that how Progressive of you!

The GOP came from the WHIG Political Party and today GOP are from the Know Nothing Political movement and are nothing like Jefferson even though you have latched onto the idea that Republican must have came from the Jefferson Republican party which mean you are confessing that you are a Democrat that love wasteful spending and leaving national debt for the future to pay for like Jefferson did!

I would expect you to be more of a Jackson type of guy, but it seem you are a true blue dog after all, right?

So modern Republicans stand for leaving the Country with massive debt?

Exactly the opposite as a matter of fact which is why Republicans have tried 30 times since Jeffersons first try to make debt illegall in America to too bad the liberals killed every amendment is that simple enough for you to understand?

And yet Jackson left the country debt free, and Jefferson did not!

So try again and Democrats back then were more conservative than the WHIGS of that day.

No idea on earth why you were telling us that Jackson left the country free of debt do you have any idea what subject you were on?

There you go!

Pointed out the fact that you are trying to claim today GOP is the party of Jefferson while not understanding that because they used the name Republican is not the same as today GOP!

The modern party uses the name and more importantly the philosophy so for all intents and purposes it is identical

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Andrew Jackson was the first Democrat
Lincoln was the first Republican

If Lincoln was the first republican what was Jefferson???

Different political party!

The GOP that Lincoln ran on is the same one that Progressive Donald John Trump ran on and not the one that Jefferson ran on!

So then why not tell us the name of the party at Jefferson formed and what that party stood forwhen you know that he will know the purpose of the American revolution and the basic principle of your country

I did and provided links. It is you playing as if the name of Jefferson political party is the same as today GOP!

The thing is today GOP has a lot of know nothing supporters which left the Democratic Party when Johnson chased you from the party!

It is you that can not understand the reality is the Democratic party came from Jefferson Republican Party and not today GOP!

You are a Know Nothing WHIG!

How is being a modern Republican being a no nothing if Modern Republicans stand for limited government exactly as Jefferson and Madison did when they formed the Republican Party.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

He did?

So modern Republicans stand for leaving the Country with massive debt?

Never knew that how Progressive of you!

The GOP came from the WHIG Political Party and today GOP are from the Know Nothing Political movement and are nothing like Jefferson even though you have latched onto the idea that Republican must have came from the Jefferson Republican party which mean you are confessing that you are a Democrat that love wasteful spending and leaving national debt for the future to pay for like Jefferson did!

I would expect you to be more of a Jackson type of guy, but it seem you are a true blue dog after all, right?

Isn't it interesting that I've asked you five times now and you are quite afraid to tell us why Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party in 1792

Because they formed what would be later called the Democratic Party and not today GOP.

Jackson was Conservative and Democratic and Johnson caused the Know Nothing voters to flee to the GOP but you are now admitting you were a democrat until LBJ forced you out!

OK for the sixth time why are you so afraid to tell us what Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party to stand for??

Why can't you understand two different parties and the names changed over the damn years?

The Republican Party you are writing about are today Democratic Party and the GOP you vote for are from the WHIG party!

Did you know they took the name and are not the same damn political party?

The name of Jefferson's party was the Republican Party Jeffersons republican party stood for freedom from liberal central government. This is identical to the modern party In name and philosophy 1+1 = 2

Holy Shit!

Are you ******* kidding me with your stupidity!

So today Minute Men are the same Minute Men from Jefferson days?

The Tea Party are the same people from Boston?

I mean 1+1= 2 according to you!

No, the Republican Party of Jefferson day became the Democratic Party. During Jackson days they were more Conservative and less about big spending. The GOP of today are from WHIGS and have more roots to the Know Nothing political movement that split from the Republican party that Lincoln was part of!

You trying to claim today GOP are from Jefferson Republican party is just pathetic even for you!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Isn't it interesting that I've asked you five times now and you are quite afraid to tell us why Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party in 1792

Because they formed what would be later called the Democratic Party and not today GOP.

Jackson was Conservative and Democratic and Johnson caused the Know Nothing voters to flee to the GOP but you are now admitting you were a democrat until LBJ forced you out!

OK for the sixth time why are you so afraid to tell us what Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party to stand for??

Why can't you understand two different parties and the names changed over the damn years?

The Republican Party you are writing about are today Democratic Party and the GOP you vote for are from the WHIG party!

Did you know they took the name and are not the same damn political party?

The name of Jefferson's party was the Republican Party Jeffersons republican party stood for freedom from liberal central government. This is identical to the modern party In name and philosophy 1+1 = 2

Holy Shit!

Are you ******* kidding me with your stupidity!

So today Minute Men are the same Minute Men from Jefferson days?

The Tea Party are the same people from Boston?

I mean 1+1= 2 according to you!

No, the Republican Party of Jefferson day became the Democratic Party. During Jackson days they were more Conservative and less about big spending. The GOP of today are from WHIGS and have more roots to the Know Nothing political movement that split from the Republican party that Lincoln was part of!

You trying to claim today GOP are from Jefferson Republican party is just pathetic even for you!

So then why are you so afraid to tell us what Jeffersons Republican party was founded to stand for and what the modern Republican Party stands for

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Andrew Jackson was the first Democrat
Lincoln was the first Republican

If Lincoln was the first republican what was Jefferson???

Different political party!

The GOP that Lincoln ran on is the same one that Progressive Donald John Trump ran on and not the one that Jefferson ran on!

So then why not tell us the name of the party at Jefferson formed and what that party stood forwhen you know that he will know the purpose of the American revolution and the basic principle of your country

I did and provided links. It is you playing as if the name of Jefferson political party is the same as today GOP!

The thing is today GOP has a lot of know nothing supporters which left the Democratic Party when Johnson chased you from the party!

It is you that can not understand the reality is the Democratic party came from Jefferson Republican Party and not today GOP!

You are a Know Nothing WHIG!

How is being a modern Republican being a no nothing if Modern Republicans stand for limited government exactly as Jefferson and Madison did when they formed the Republican Party.

Know Nothing Political Movement!

Look them up and learn something new!

You even writing No Nothing show me you are just playing stupid and trying to twist history to support your opinion on something. Democrats like Andrew Jackson were Conservative in their day and Lincoln was Progressive. Times change and voters move from one political party to the next. The Jefferson Republican party are not today GOP but today GOP are more like the Know Nothing Political Movement that split from the Republican Party!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Isn't it interesting that I've asked you five times now and you are quite afraid to tell us why Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party in 1792

Because they formed what would be later called the Democratic Party and not today GOP.

Jackson was Conservative and Democratic and Johnson caused the Know Nothing voters to flee to the GOP but you are now admitting you were a democrat until LBJ forced you out!

OK for the sixth time why are you so afraid to tell us what Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party to stand for??

Why can't you understand two different parties and the names changed over the damn years?

The Republican Party you are writing about are today Democratic Party and the GOP you vote for are from the WHIG party!

Did you know they took the name and are not the same damn political party?

The name of Jefferson's party was the Republican Party Jeffersons republican party stood for freedom from liberal central government. This is identical to the modern party In name and philosophy 1+1 = 2

Holy Shit!

Are you ******* kidding me with your stupidity!

The Tea Party are the same people from Boston?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Because they formed what would be later called the Democratic Party and not today GOP.

Jackson was Conservative and Democratic and Johnson caused the Know Nothing voters to flee to the GOP but you are now admitting you were a democrat until LBJ forced you out!

OK for the sixth time why are you so afraid to tell us what Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party to stand for??

Why can't you understand two different parties and the names changed over the damn years?

The Republican Party you are writing about are today Democratic Party and the GOP you vote for are from the WHIG party!

Did you know they took the name and are not the same damn political party?

The name of Jefferson's party was the Republican Party Jeffersons republican party stood for freedom from liberal central government. This is identical to the modern party In name and philosophy 1+1 = 2

Holy Shit!

Are you ******* kidding me with your stupidity!

So today Minute Men are the same Minute Men from Jefferson days?

The Tea Party are the same people from Boston?

I mean 1+1= 2 according to you!

No, the Republican Party of Jefferson day became the Democratic Party. During Jackson days they were more Conservative and less about big spending. The GOP of today are from WHIGS and have more roots to the Know Nothing political movement that split from the Republican party that Lincoln was part of!

You trying to claim today GOP are from Jefferson Republican party is just pathetic even for you!

So then why are you so afraid to tell us what Jeffersons Republican party was founded to stand for and what the modern Republican Party stands for

So you are a Know Nothing Southern voter that came from the Democratic Party!

Jefferson Republicans became Andrew Jackson Democrats and not today GOP!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I haven't looked into it in any detail but I assume the modern tea party took their name from the original tea party out of a sense of shared philosophy do you understand

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Because they formed what would be later called the Democratic Party and not today GOP.

Jackson was Conservative and Democratic and Johnson caused the Know Nothing voters to flee to the GOP but you are now admitting you were a democrat until LBJ forced you out!

OK for the sixth time why are you so afraid to tell us what Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party to stand for??

Why can't you understand two different parties and the names changed over the damn years?

The Republican Party you are writing about are today Democratic Party and the GOP you vote for are from the WHIG party!

Did you know they took the name and are not the same damn political party?

The name of Jefferson's party was the Republican Party Jeffersons republican party stood for freedom from liberal central government. This is identical to the modern party In name and philosophy 1+1 = 2

Holy Shit!

Are you ******* kidding me with your stupidity!

The Tea Party are the same people from Boston?

Editing someone responses to fit your agenda?

Go **** yourself!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

OK for the sixth time why are you so afraid to tell us what Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party to stand for??

Why can't you understand two different parties and the names changed over the damn years?

The Republican Party you are writing about are today Democratic Party and the GOP you vote for are from the WHIG party!

Did you know they took the name and are not the same damn political party?

The name of Jefferson's party was the Republican Party Jeffersons republican party stood for freedom from liberal central government. This is identical to the modern party In name and philosophy 1+1 = 2

Holy Shit!

Are you ******* kidding me with your stupidity!

So today Minute Men are the same Minute Men from Jefferson days?

The Tea Party are the same people from Boston?

I mean 1+1= 2 according to you!

No, the Republican Party of Jefferson day became the Democratic Party. During Jackson days they were more Conservative and less about big spending. The GOP of today are from WHIGS and have more roots to the Know Nothing political movement that split from the Republican party that Lincoln was part of!

You trying to claim today GOP are from Jefferson Republican party is just pathetic even for you!

So then why are you so afraid to tell us what Jeffersons Republican party was founded to stand for and what the modern Republican Party stands for

So you are a Know Nothing Southern voter that came from the Democratic Party!

Jefferson Republicans became Andrew Jackson Democrats and not today GOP!

Actually the issue here is not whether Jeffersonian Republicans became Andrew Jackson Democrats but whether they eventually became modern Republicans who stand for exactly the same thing at that Jefferson and Madison stood for when they founded the Republican Party now certainly this is clear to you?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

I haven't looked into it in any detail but I assume the modern tea party took their name from the original tea party out of a sense of shared philosophy do you understand

Well today GOP are from Lincoln Political party and not Jefferson. Also if you voted for Trump then you are from Lincoln group!

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Why can't you understand two different parties and the names changed over the damn years?

The Republican Party you are writing about are today Democratic Party and the GOP you vote for are from the WHIG party!

Did you know they took the name and are not the same damn political party?

The name of Jefferson's party was the Republican Party Jeffersons republican party stood for freedom from liberal central government. This is identical to the modern party In name and philosophy 1+1 = 2

Holy Shit!

Are you ******* kidding me with your stupidity!

So today Minute Men are the same Minute Men from Jefferson days?

The Tea Party are the same people from Boston?

I mean 1+1= 2 according to you!

No, the Republican Party of Jefferson day became the Democratic Party. During Jackson days they were more Conservative and less about big spending. The GOP of today are from WHIGS and have more roots to the Know Nothing political movement that split from the Republican party that Lincoln was part of!

You trying to claim today GOP are from Jefferson Republican party is just pathetic even for you!

So then why are you so afraid to tell us what Jeffersons Republican party was founded to stand for and what the modern Republican Party stands for

So you are a Know Nothing Southern voter that came from the Democratic Party!

Jefferson Republicans became Andrew Jackson Democrats and not today GOP!

Actually the issue here is not whether Jeffersonian Republicans became Andrew Jackson Democrats but whether they eventually became mattered Republicans who stand for exactly the same thing at Jefferson and Madison stood for when they founded the Republican Party now certainly this is clear to you?

No!

Reason?

Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr. and Trump are big spending Lincoln types!