Warren Blasts Elon Musk’s Government Power Grab

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

No, it's not. These great men are trying to clean up the system of waste and abuse. I hope they outright disband worthless wasteful leftwing departments like Education.

The money that they find and the money that they save by shuttering all of these government agencies and programs, where do you think that money is going to go?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

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Senator Warren’s speech underscores a vital warning about the dangers of allowing one individual, especially one who is not an elected representative, to exert such extensive control over a major component of government operations. She highlights the fact that critical systems, like those responsible for sending Social Security checks, paying Medicare bills, and funding essential services, should remain in the hands of democratically accountable institutions rather than a single person’s private enterprise. Her concerns are particularly urgent because these are the mechanisms that safeguard our most vulnerable populations: seniors, patients, children, and ordinary families who rely on timely disbursement of federal funds.

In defending Senator Warren’s position, it’s clear that she champions the principle of government by the people, for the people. She rallies the public to resist concentrated power and reminds us that these systems were built to serve everyone, not to be subject to the personal decisions of someone who has never faced the voters. By calling attention to the broader implications of one individual’s influence, Senator Warren is advocating for a democratic check on power to ensure that vital services continue to flow responsibly. Her stance sends a powerful message that we should remain vigilant and engaged to protect the foundations of our democracy.

Warren blasts Musk's attempts at accountability and cutting government waste. Politicians on both sides don't want see an end to big government.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The money that they find and the money that they save by shuttering all of these government agencies and programs, where do you think that money is going to go?

Tax cuts.

 

[SeaMajor7]

How is that going to improve education in America, by defunding it? Elon Musk wants America dumb, that way he can continue doing this:

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You're just hurting yourself and your country, letting these oligarchs take control and strip you of your rights, your power as an American citizen, and your commonwealth.

We're taking away the DOE from you Marxist ASSHOLES, and you can't do anything but CRY about it!

 

[SeaMajor7]

He's going to **** everybody, that's the problem. You hired the wrong man.

YOU'RE fucked!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[SeaMajor7]

Todd, you’re throwing around phrases like “useless jobs” and “output-destroying government work” as if government service has zero value. That’s ridiculous. The roads you drive on, the teachers who educate children, the researchers who advance medicine, the firefighters who protect your home, the law enforcement who keep your streets safe, are those government jobs, funded by programs that wouldn’t exist if we simply left everything up to the private sector. So let’s not pretend these people are just sitting around doing nothing. They’re delivering essential services that create and maintain the conditions for private businesses and entire communities to thrive.

Beyond that, if government jobs are so worthless, why do billionaires like Elon Musk keep saying we’ll eventually need a universal basic income because automation will put millions out of work? The point is we have a choice: either pay people to do nothing or pay them to do something. Durrrrrrr...

You act as if cutting government programs only affects a small group of “unproductive” people. In reality, those “unproductive” government workers spend their wages in the local economy, supporting grocery stores, restaurants, home repairs, and so on. When you slash their jobs, you drain purchasing power, harming private businesses and the surrounding communities. That’s why austerity is literally taking dollars out of the economy. It’s not about these so-called “lazy” public employees; it’s about the ripple effect on the entire economy when you fire them.

No, Todd, we’re not going to run out of money, and we don’t need to kill off every government job to stay afloat. It’s the government that issues the currency to begin with. The real question is whether we’re making productive use of our resources: people, materials, technology, not just how big the number is in some ledger. Firing everyone in sight without due process and calling it “good for the country” is not just immoral; it’s economically foolish. If we reach the point of widespread automation, we’ll either create government jobs that add real value or pay people not to work. Which option sounds more “productive” to you? I prefer people work than sit on their rear ends and collect a "UBI check".

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Do you prefer "UBI"? I don't.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Tax cuts.

I'm referring to the "surplus"

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

I'm referring to the "surplus"

Why would we have a surplus if government spending and taxes are cut.

 

[22lcidw]

The money that they find and the money that they save by shuttering all of these government agencies and programs, where do you think that money is going to go?

A portion of it is going to reduce the deficit. The government is too obese with the trickle down paying off the top and the middle before it gets to the citizens at a reduced level. We have government workers defying going to work in office buildings now since Covid. There are too many people that are politically motivated in government employment. Perhaps lobbyists need to be trimmed with any other action also. We all like the government cushioning in difficult times and for social programs. It is to be fair and to clean up anyone stealing from the system that needs to be removed while enforcing efficiencies.

 

[westwall]

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Senator Warren’s speech underscores a vital warning about the dangers of allowing one individual, especially one who is not an elected representative, to exert such extensive control over a major component of government operations. She highlights the fact that critical systems, like those responsible for sending Social Security checks, paying Medicare bills, and funding essential services, should remain in the hands of democratically accountable institutions rather than a single person’s private enterprise. Her concerns are particularly urgent because these are the mechanisms that safeguard our most vulnerable populations: seniors, patients, children, and ordinary families who rely on timely disbursement of federal funds.

In defending Senator Warren’s position, it’s clear that she champions the principle of government by the people, for the people. She rallies the public to resist concentrated power and reminds us that these systems were built to serve everyone, not to be subject to the personal decisions of someone who has never faced the voters. By calling attention to the broader implications of one individual’s influence, Senator Warren is advocating for a democratic check on power to ensure that vital services continue to flow responsibly. Her stance sends a powerful message that we should remain vigilant and engaged to protect the foundations of our democracy.

Fake injun can suck eggs.

 

[j-mac]

It’s always the crooks that scream the loudest.

 

[TruthNotBS]

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT

USAID used to be a wholly owned subsidiary of the Soros' Network

USAID: Soros’ Secret Cash Cow​

By Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.
February 3, 2025


A 1993 USAID document shows the agency signed an agreement with the Soros Foundations’ Management Training Program to train 30 “professionals” from Bulgaria, Estonia, Poland, Romania and Slovakia.

In the late 1990s and early 2000s, a series of color revolutions shook Eastern Europe, with George Soros’ network of NGOs playing a central role in the unrest.

In 2003–2004, Soros’ International Renaissance Foundation partnered with USAID to support Ukraine’s ‘Orange Revolution’. Prior to that, the US spent $54.7 million in 2003 and $34.11 million in 2004 on “democracy programs” in Ukraine through various agencies, including USAID.

The US legal watchdog Judicial Watch revealed in April 2018 that USAID sponsored Soros’ globalist agenda in Guatemala. In total, OSF reportedly spent around $100 million fomenting unrest in Latin America between 2015 and 2018.

In October 2018, the watchdog obtained documents indicating that USAID partnered with Soros to fund radical left-wing activists in Albania. In 2016, USAID reportedly allocated $9 million to a campaign overseen by Soros’ East West Management Institute.

To illustrate the scale of funds managed by Soros-linked initiatives, in 2024, then-President Joe Biden requested nearly $30 billion for USAID in 2025.

USAID: Soros' Secret Cash Cow - LewRockwell

Rick Rozoff writes: A 1993 USAID document shows the agency signed an agreement with the Soros Foundations’ Management Training Program to train 30 “professionals” from Bulgaria, Estonia, Poland, Romania and Slovakia. In the late 1990s and early 2000s, a series of color revolutions shook Eastern...

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Yes, but Elon and company (including Trump his fellow billionaire), want to cut much more than the "Soros USAID", or the "Woke-LGBTQ USAID", they'll cut programs that actually do good, like Medicaid, and FAFSA (Federal Assistance for college students)..etc. They're going to cut cut cut cut...Until they cut something that helps you or someone you care about, we'll then see how enthusiastic you are with all of that cutting.

Elon is also trying to strip American workers of their right to unionize. Elon hates labor unions, that's one of the reasons he loves hiring Indians with H-1B visas:

He only cares about short-term profits, and to hell with the long-term consequences of not hiring Americans. He also wants to cut the Department of Education, which contributes to the education and training of Americans, to be able to work those high-tech jobs. Elon wants a dumb America, that he can exploit and capitalize on while importing cheap labor from India, which he has full control over. Those Indian employees are under his heel, terrorized by his threats of deportation. Those foreign workers, have to swallow whatever Elon wants, without question, and if they don't, they get deported.

 

[hadit]

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Senator Warren’s speech underscores a vital warning about the dangers of allowing one individual, especially one who is not an elected representative, to exert such extensive control over a major component of government operations. She highlights the fact that critical systems, like those responsible for sending Social Security checks, paying Medicare bills, and funding essential services, should remain in the hands of democratically accountable institutions rather than a single person’s private enterprise. Her concerns are particularly urgent because these are the mechanisms that safeguard our most vulnerable populations: seniors, patients, children, and ordinary families who rely on timely disbursement of federal funds.

In defending Senator Warren’s position, it’s clear that she champions the principle of government by the people, for the people. She rallies the public to resist concentrated power and reminds us that these systems were built to serve everyone, not to be subject to the personal decisions of someone who has never faced the voters. By calling attention to the broader implications of one individual’s influence, Senator Warren is advocating for a democratic check on power to ensure that vital services continue to flow responsibly. Her stance sends a powerful message that we should remain vigilant and engaged to protect the foundations of our democracy.

Didn't she also try to get RFK, Jr to promise not to sue drug companies or some such? The funny thing is, it was explicitly democracy that put her and TRIMP! in this position.

 

[Contumacious]

Todd, you’re throwing around phrases like “useless jobs” and “output-destroying government work” as if government service has zero value

If a bureaucrat is performing government service UNAUTHORIZED by the Constitution then the "service" has zero value.

 

[Contumacious]

Yes, but Elon and company (including Trump his fellow billionaire), want to cut much more than the "Soros USAID", or the "Woke-LGBTQ USAID", they'll cut programs that actually do good, like Medicaid, and FAFSA (Federal Assistance for college students)..etc. They're going to cut cut cut cut...Until they cut something that helps you or someone you care about, we'll then see how enthusiastic you are with all of that cutting.

Elon is also trying to strip American workers of their right to unionize. Elon hates labor unions, that's one of the reasons he loves hiring Indians with H-1B visas:

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He only cares about short-term profits, and to hell with the long-term consequences of not hiring Americans. He also wants to cut the Department of Education, which contributes to the education and training of Americans, to be able to work those high-tech jobs. Elon wants a dumb America, that he can exploit and capitalize on while importing cheap labor from India, which he has full control over. Those Indian employees are under his heel, terrorized by his threats of deportation. Those foreign workers, have to swallow whatever Elon wants, without question, and if they don't, they get deported.

If the service being performed is unconstitutional then it should be immediately abolished

 

[TruthNotBS]

If a bureaucrat is performing government service UNAUTHORIZED by the Constitution then the "service" has zero value.

Who determines that? Trump and Elon? The courts decide whether something is unauthorized by the Constitution, not Trump via EO. That's not how our system of government works. We have checks and balances, and courts. A judiciary and legislature, that also has authority to determine such issues, not just one sitting president with his pen. That's rule by fiat, being under the heel of the whims of a king. We have a system in place and Trump and friends, are now trampling on our Constitution and laws.

They can't just go around firing federal employees or punishing them because they were involved in an investigation that Trump doesn't like. You can't lose your job with the federal government just because you're a Republican and Biden is in the White House. Our system of government doesn't work that way. As a Republican conservative, you're protected, even if the president is a socialist, leftist like me (like Bernie Sanders for example). I can't go around firing people, throughout the federal government, including Contumacious, because I don't like his politics, or he was involved as an FBI agent in an investigation I consider unethical. I wouldn't have that power.

 

[TruthNotBS]

If the service being performed is unconstitutional then it should be immediately abolished

That's not up to Trump or Elon to decide, that has to be determined by the Supreme Court. Not you or me, or even Trump, our president. We don't live in an absolute monarchy, with a monarch determining what is Constitutional and what isn't. That's for the courts to decide, not the executive branch of government. POTUS isn't in that arena, SCOTUS is.

 

[Contumacious]

Who determines that? Trump and Elon? The courts decide whether something is unauthorized by the Constitution, not Trump via EO. That's not how our system of government works. We have checks and balances, and courts. A judiciary and legislature, that also has authority to determine such issues, not just one sitting president with his pen. That's rule by fiat, being under the heel of the whims of a king. We have a system in place and Trump and friends, are now trampling on our Constitution and laws.

They can't just go around firing federal employees or punishing them because they were involved in an investigation that Trump doesn't like. You can't lose your job with the federal government just because you're a Republican and Biden is in the White House. Our system of government doesn't work that way. As a Republican conservative, you're protected, even if the president is a socialist, leftist like me (like Bernie Sanders for example). I can't go around firing people, throughout the federal government, including Contumacious, because I don't like his politics, or he was involved as an FBI agent in an investigation I consider unethical. I wouldn't have that power.

Our Government is composed of three CO EQUAL Branches - The Executive may declare anc act of service unconstitutional with the understanding that the JUDICIAL may ultimately decided otherwise.

 

[Contumacious]

They can't just go around firing federal employees or punishing them because they were involved in an investigation that Trump doesn't like

If an investigation determines that President Trump was subjected to a political witch hunt then K$H Patel or Ms Bondi must prosecute to the Max.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Our Government is composed of three CO EQUAL Branches - The Executive may declare anc act of service unconstitutional with the understanding that the JUDICIAL may ultimately decided otherwise.

That's not the role of the executive branch and all that is going to happen is all of these EOs are going to be struck down by the courts and Congress. You're actually wasting money, with all of these artificial, temporary changes that are going to be rolled back the moment the true authority in that area of our system of government assesses the situation and rules the president was wrong. You can play this little TRUMP THE KING game but it's all going to get slapped down by the courts and our Congress. Enjoy your little TRUMP KING game for a while, but eventually, it's all going to get ripped up like a paper tiger. That's all this amounts to, power posturing and stuffed teddy bears, that look scary but are full of fluff.