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[AlexanderPK]

This guy seems to have an audience in the US. This is his view on the West versus Russia

 

[Bleipriester]

Zelensky rejected the US idea of lowering the conscription age, stressing that his existing forces need equipment instead.

"Такое не простят". Зеленский "защитил" себя детьми

Избранный президент США Дональд Трамп призвал Владимира Зеленского немедленно остановить боевые действия на Украине, но тот отказался. При этом он не хочет... РИА Новости, 12.12.2024

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[Vrenn]

Zelensky rejected the US idea of lowering the conscription age, stressing that his existing forces need equipment instead.

"Такое не простят". Зеленский "защитил" себя детьми

Избранный президент США Дональд Трамп призвал Владимира Зеленского немедленно остановить боевые действия на Украине, но тот отказался. При этом он не хочет... РИА Новости, 12.12.2024

ria.ru

Lowering the conscription age to 18 does little to improve things Russia is doing that right now and losing hordes.


Again, any ceasefire must come from Russia just picking up what's left of it's toys and exiting all parts of Ukraine.

 

[Bleipriester]

Lowering the conscription age to 18 does little to improve things Russia is doing that right now and losing hordes.


Again, any ceasefire must come from Russia just picking up what's left of it's toys and exiting all parts of Ukraine.

Western illusions won´t bring about anything good for Ukraine. Not accepting the fact that they are losing in Ukraine will cause Russia to take more pieces and keep them when negotiations finally start. Not to mention the loss of human lives.

 

[Vrenn]

Western illusions won´t bring about anything good for Ukraine. Not accepting the fact that they are losing in Ukraine will cause Russia to take more pieces and keep them when negotiations finally start. Not to mention the loss of human lives.

Proof that you don't want to limit Putin's expansion. There are other countries on that expansion also called invasion.

 

[Robert W]

You are too young to remember (also geographics) on how draft dodgers were handled in the 60s in the US. He would never had the chance to bear spray anyone back then. He would have been taken down, beaten with clubs and thrown in the wagon.

Or do what Bill Clinton did and flee Arkansas for England after promising an officer he would appear for duty.

 

[Vrenn]

Or do what Bill Clinton did and flee Arkansas for England after promising an officer he would appear for duty.

Clinton had legit deferments. You know, the deferments of the Rich and extreme well educated. Sorry, but Bone spurs only had the rich part and was lacking in the education department.

 

[Bleipriester]

Proof that you don't want to limit Putin's expansion. There are other countries on that expansion also called invasion.

I am not a war party. You are. But you are beyond the point of wanting. It is about capability. You can´t stop Putin, unless you use your own force. Don´t you understand that the war can be maybe prolonged, but its outcome is already determined? And that this is probably the whole point? They are not about ending the war, they want the war to be continued as long as possible. Have you ever seen this hypocrites calling for cease fires, like they do, when it is not their war? No, never. The more Russia invests into this war, the weaker it will be afterwards, they think. Millions have to die for this nonsense.

 

[Vrenn]

I am not a war party. You are.

Yet you want us to ignore Putins expansion into other sovereign nations. I see, war is bad when it goes against Putin but good when it goes supporting his invasions.

But you are beyond the point of wanting. It is about capability. You can´t stop Putin, unless you use your own force. Don´t you understand that the war can be maybe prolonged, but its outcome is already determined? And that this is probably the whole point? They are not about ending the war, they want the war to be continued as long as possible. Have you ever seen this hypocrites calling for cease fires, like they do, when it is not their war? No, never. The more Russia invests into this war, the weaker it will be afterwards, they think. Millions have to die for this nonsense.

From the sound of things, we don't need to send one single troop into Ukraine since the Ukrainians are supporting their own man power. What they needed was weapons systems equal to what Putin has to offer. And when that happens, the inept Russians get handed their asses in the hands.

Again, if this "Monstrosity" is to end, it has to result in Russian gather their toys and going home returning all of the Sovereign Ukraine back to Ukraine.

 

[Zavulon]

Define -"directly"

Britain is simply delivering weapon systems that are e.g. able to destroy targets and objects in Russia.
As long as these weapons are not manned/guided by British personal (aka under British command) - Britain is NOT directly involved - simple to understand, right?

But they are manned and guided by the British personal.
And it means that pretty soon Russian missiles will attack targets on the territory of the UK. One of the first targets will be HMNB Clyde. Be prepared.

 

[Zavulon]

Yet you want us to ignore Putins expansion into other sovereign nations. I see, war is bad when it goes against Putin but good when it goes supporting his invasions.




From the sound of things, we don't need to send one single troop into Ukraine since the Ukrainians are supporting their own man power. What they needed was weapons systems equal to what Putin has to offer. And when that happens, the inept Russians get handed their asses in the hands.

Again, if this "Monstrosity" is to end, it has to result in Russian gather their toys and going home returning all of the Sovereign Ukraine back to Ukraine.

No. It will be ended with the decisive victory of the Russian Army, and the Russian flag raised over radioactive ruins of Berlin, Paris, London (and/or Washington).

 

[Zavulon]

Proof that you don't want to limit Putin's expansion.

And you don't want to limit NATO expansion. Therefore, there will be a war.

 

[luiza]

US has totally lost the plot as this US ex top military guy outlines

Retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Davis writes on X.

What in God's name is the Biden Administration doing by authorizing another long range strike by Ukraine against Russia, when Trump is actively seeking to end the war on the best terms for UKR as possible?

Russia has repeatedly warned that they will respond to additional long range strikes. Let me make one thing crystal clear: there is ZERO military utility of such a strike, even if it had succeeded (reportedly, the six ATACMS missiles were either shot down or deflected off target by electronic warfare means). Zero. But it does carry significant capacity to escalate the war.

One has to reasonably ask: is the Biden Admin trying to escalate the war before Trump gets in, or are they merely imcompetent to military and international affairs?

 

[Kruska]

But they are manned and guided by the British personal.
And it means that pretty soon Russian missiles will attack targets on the territory of the UK. One of the first targets will be HMNB Clyde. Be prepared.

Those NATO weapon system - that are being used by the UAF are neither manned nor guided by e.g. British or NATO members.
Do you know how an e.g. Storm Shadow is guided? aka reaches it's target?

A so called Mission planer - a member of the UDF (trained by e.g. Britain) simply programs the missions parameters and e.g. recognized Russian air-defense positions - that it will pass on it's way to it's designated target.
Once activated - aka launched, it descends to a low altitude (just like an e.g. Cruise-missile) it is assisted during it's flight via GPS (The UDF has been given access and also runs it's own GPS data-network) and the installed Terrain mapping system (inertial navigation system - INS-TERCOM) within the missile.

So far NATO has not officially given the UDF permission to access it's Link 16 - which would make things far easier for Ukraine - but isn't necessary to guide an e.g. Storm Shadow or the ATACMS system. However it doesn't involve NATO personal in a Direct participation either.

In it's last stage the missile itself via an imaging infrared seeker - that operates on an algorithmic based target seeker - comparing the actual target data with the previously set mission target parameters. or via the Attack on coordinate possibility - then BOOM

Therefore a NATO member isn't used, nor necessary at all to operate this system - but you can be sure that a NATO member is present at the mission center.

 

[Vrenn]

No. It will be ended with the decisive victory of the Russian Army, and the Russian flag raised over radioactive ruins of Berlin, Paris, London (and/or Washington).

And to prevent that, we keep backing countries that you attack. Keeping your country too weak to do what you want to do in the first place.

 

[Vrenn]

And you don't want to limit NATO expansion. Therefore, there will be a war.

NATO does not invade other countries unless the other countries get invade first. Again, the way to end the Ukrainian Conflict is for you to load up your toys and for you to home.

 

[luiza]

But they are manned and guided by the British personal.
And it means that pretty soon Russian missiles will attack targets on the territory of the UK. One of the first targets will be HMNB Clyde. Be prepared.

I believe Moscow has handled matters sensibly and with kindness so far .

There have been two huge fires at two of our top equipmemt and weapons storage complexes.
In both instances the press signalled the fact that these incidents occurred , but then immediately went silent ---- D notices were almost certainly issued .
In the last fortnight there have been a large number of UFOs witnessed over military bases here .

Uninformed chatter has naturally been aimed at Russia as an explanation .
This is almost certainly untrue and is just coincidence .
There is another far more compelling explanation and Russia already doubtless has every piece of information it needs about our UK bases where nuc;lesr armed planes fly .

 

[Kruska]

NATO does not invade other countries unless the other countries get invade first.

NATO as per Brussels - but doesn't apply towards NATO members attacking other countries that have NOT been attacking anyone else.
Usually this aggression via NATO members is conducted under the leadership of the USA.

E.g. Syria, Iraq II, Libya, etc.

 

[Zavulon]

Those NATO weapon system - that are being used by the UAF are neither manned nor guided by e.g. British or NATO members.
Do you know how an e.g. Storm Shadow is guided? aka reaches it's target?

A so called Mission planer - a member of the UDF (trained by e.g. Britain) simply programs the missions parameters and e.g. recognized Russian air-defense positions - that it will pass on it's way to it's designated target.
Once activated - aka launched, it descends to a low altitude (just like an e.g. Cruise-missile) it is assisted during it's flight via GPS (The UDF has been given access and also runs it's own GPS data-network) and the installed Terrain mapping system (inertial navigation system - INS-TERCOM) within the missile.

So far NATO has not officially given the UDF permission to access it's Link 16 - which would make things far easier for Ukraine - but isn't necessary to guide an e.g. Storm Shadow or the ATACMS system. However it doesn't involve NATO personal in a Direct participation either.

In it's last stage the missile itself via an imaging infrared seeker - that operates on an algorithmic based target seeker - comparing the actual target data with the previously set mission target parameters. or via the Attack on coordinate possibility - then BOOM

Therefore a NATO member isn't used, nor necessary at all to operate this system - but you can be sure that a NATO member is present at the mission center.

And this is the point where your "proxy facilitation" becomes "direct participation".
You may like it, or dislike it, but this is how the Russians see it. And as we see it that way - we are going to act accordingly, by the direct elimination of British, French and American military capabilities on their soil.

 

[Zavulon]

And to prevent that, we keep backing countries that you attack. Keeping your country too weak to do what you want to do in the first place.

Actually, after almost three years of the conflict Russia became stronger, not weaker. And what is more important - much more determined. So, we'll see who win and who lose in WWIII.