War In Ukraine Has Decimated A Once Feared Russian Brigade

The $40 billion aid bill for Ukraine passed in the Senate by a vote of 81 - 11, which means most Republicans support military aid to Ukraine. All of your arguments have been heard and rejected by the majority of the Republican Party, including staunch conservatives like Ted Cruz, as well as Democrats. All of America's allies also support military aid to Ukraine and nearly all are contributing as they can. This is a settled issue and a losing issue for Trump.
So what?... see I don't go along with any party if I believe they are wrong... the MAGA wing of the GOP and Trump himself are not in favor of this... you can hoist up people like McConnell and Romney all day long it won't change my thinking on this... why don't you try answering one of my questions....
The well established bought off politicians from both parties are selling us down the river and folks like you are blindly giving your blessing....
All you can do to defend your position is to point those GOP crooks out?... LMAO do you ever think for yourself?....
 
So what?... see I don't go along with any party if I believe they are wrong... the MAGA wing of the GOP and Trump himself are not in favor of this... you can hoist up people like McConnell and Romney all day long it won't change my thinking on this... why don't you try answering one of my questions....
The well established bought off politicians from both parties are selling us down the river and folks like you are blindly giving your blessing....
All you can do to defend your position is to point those GOP crooks out?... LMAO do you ever think for yourself?....
I have answered all of your "questions" and more importantly the great majority of Republicans and Democrats have rejected your arguments, so they are not relevant to the discussion.
 

I think "decimated" is an understatement. Dismembered is a better description.

Things must be going very badly for Russia if they felt it necessary to deploy a brigade meant to protect their nuclear arsenal to fight in Ukraine.

And that brigade has been catastrophically damaged.

No wonder Putin is resorting to drones now. It's all he has left to fight with.

Nuclear-armed submarines slip in and out of the frigid waters along the coast of Russia’s Kola Peninsula at the northern edge of Europe. Missiles capable of destroying cities are stored by the dozens in bunkers burrowed into the inland hills.

Since the Cold War, this Arctic arsenal has been protected by a combat unit considered one of Russia’s most formidable — the 200th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade — until it sent its best fighters and weapons to Ukraine this year and was effectively destroyed.

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A document detailing a mid-war inventory of its ranks shows that by late May, fewer than 900 soldiers were left in two battalion tactical groups that, according to Western officials, had departed the brigade’s garrison in Russia with more than 1,400. The brigade’s commander was badly wounded. And some of those still being counted as part of the unit were listed as hospitalized, missing or “refuseniks” unwilling to fight, according to the document, part of a trove of internal Russian military files obtained by Ukraine’s security services and provided to The Post.




I wonder what Russia does to "refuseniks".


“They are barely at 60 percent strength, being forced to rely on reinforcements that aren’t near enough,” Pekka Toveri, former director of Finland’s defense intelligence service, said in an interview. “You have guys who are refusing to fight, guys who are missing. It all tells us that for Russia the war has gone terribly wrong.”


[snip]

Many of the unit’s most potent weapons, including mobile rocket launchers and tanks, were either destroyed or captured.


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All the while, the brigade was being degraded from within. The skilled troops and professional officers sent into battle at the start of the war with state-of-the-art T-80BVM tanks have given way to an assemblage of poorly trained conscripts pressed into service with paltry or outdated gear.

Some of the brigade’s own soldiers described its condition as dire.

“The unit is in a state of decay,” said a soldier now serving in the 200th after being drafted under mobilization orders that Putin issued in September. He and others were initially issued “painted helmets from 1941 and vests without plates,” he said in an interview with The Post this month. “They are not even training us. … They just tell you, ‘You are a shooter now. Here you go, here is a machine gun.’”

In a war that has been disastrous for much of Russia’s military, the dismemberment of the 200th stands out. It entered the conflict with better training, newer equipment and more experience — including prior combat missions in Ukraine — than most other units. Now, given the magnitude of its losses, one European military official said, it “cannot be considered a fighting force.”


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The troops, like others in the invading force, were led to believe they were deploying to take part in drills, according to Ukrainian officials citing accounts of captured 200th soldiers. Only at 3 a.m. on Feb. 24 were they told, “There will be shooting,” an official said.

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By day’s end, multiple units of the 200th had been ambushed or attacked, dozens of soldiers killed or wounded, and equipment including tanks and “Grad” mobile rocket launchers destroyed or abandoned on roadsides, according to Ukrainian and Western accounts.

:banana:


“The front they were assigned proved to be well defended with very motivated Ukrainians,” a senior European intelligence official said. :Boom2:


“What’s there to know about them?” Col. Gen. Oleksandr Syrsky, who later commanded the Kharkiv offensive, said recently in an interview when asked about the 200th. “They run away very well.” :scared1:

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In a sign of growing desperation, the brigade in June began forming what it called a “mixed volunteer battalion” including sailors pulled off Northern Fleet ships, logistics specialists from depots and others often coerced into action despite having little or no experience or training in ground combat, according to Western officials.

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Ukrainian commanders described battles in which 200th soldiers wouldn’t fight or defied orders. In mid-July, a Ukrainian reconnaissance unit captured audio of a Russian tank commander in Hrakove screaming at subordinates.

“Should I show you how to kill Ukrainians? I’ll get in the tank myself,” the commander shouted, shortly before the tank was destroyed by a Javelin missile, according to Oleksandr, a reconnaissance scout in Ukraine’s 92nd Mechanized Brigade, who spoke on the condition that his surname not be published to maintain his security.



YEAH, BABY! That's why I have Saint Javelin as my avatar.

It's a long article, but well worth reading. There is a great blow by blow account of how the Ukrainians destroyed the 200th. Excellent tactics.
Minor point. Technically, “decimated” comes from the Latin and meant reduce an enemy force by a tenth. Kicking their ass — where they are down 40% or more — is much worse than decimation for that Russian brigade.

And that’s a good thing. I congratulate the OP for recognizing that the military damage inflicted on the Russian force goes beyond “decimation.”

And while I’m sorry so many Russian individuals have to die and get maimed because of Putin’s aggression, again; better that than innocent Ukrainian civilians.
 
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I would not have supported the funding for this war no matter who was in office... Trump has said he wouldn't waste tax payers money for this war... we just got out of a war or have you forgotten... maybe the question begging to be asked is what would be your position if Trump were in office while this is going down... I bet you would be calling for another impeachment....
So, you say that Trump wouldn't do a thing to stop Russia in this war, but boast that this war didn't start when he was in office. This sounds stupid.
 

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