War Hero Morris Jeppson Dies: Enola Gay Crewman Who Armed Atomic Bomb Dropped on Japs

[Kevin_Kennedy]

We should have minded our own business.

It's reasons like this is why I would never vote for a hardcore Libertarian as POTUS. No offense Kevin, but I wouldn't want a POTUS at the wheel who would be willing to sit on his hands while clear and cut genocide occurs in front of him.

The President is elected by the United States, not the world.

 

[elvis]

Now that's not very nice.

well maybe you shouldn't be calling people war criminals when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

If vaporizing innocent civilians isn't a war crime then nothing in the history of the world has been a war crime.

yeah. better to have americans vaporized, eh dumbfuck?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

well maybe you shouldn't be calling people war criminals when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

If vaporizing innocent civilians isn't a war crime then nothing in the history of the world has been a war crime.

yeah. better to have americans vaporized, eh dumbfuck?

By the nuke that Japan didn't have, and wouldn't have been in a position to use at that point even if they did?

 

[elvis]

If vaporizing innocent civilians isn't a war crime then nothing in the history of the world has been a war crime.

yeah. better to have americans vaporized, eh dumbfuck?

By the nuke that Japan didn't have, and wouldn't have been in a position to use at that point even if they did?

no you stupid fuck. dead americans from the invasion of mainland japan, which would have taken place whether your stupid mealy-mouthed ass admits it or not.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

yeah. better to have americans vaporized, eh dumbfuck?

By the nuke that Japan didn't have, and wouldn't have been in a position to use at that point even if they did?

no you stupid fuck. dead americans from the invasion of mainland japan, which would have taken place whether your stupid mealy-mouthed ass admits it or not.

Which there would have been no need for.

 

[elvis]

By the nuke that Japan didn't have, and wouldn't have been in a position to use at that point even if they did?

no you stupid fuck. dead americans from the invasion of mainland japan, which would have taken place whether your stupid mealy-mouthed ass admits it or not.

Which there would have been no need for.

yeah let them rebuild so they can hit us again. oh wait, you wouldn't have done anything after pearl. They would have been in chicago before you thought about doing anything.

 

[US Army Retired]

If vaporizing innocent civilians isn't a war crime then nothing in the history of the world has been a war crime.

yeah. better to have americans vaporized, eh dumbfuck?

By the nuke that Japan didn't have, and wouldn't have been in a position to use at that point even if they did?

You must realize that the nips were sending thousands of bombs by balloons to try to kill civilians here in the U.S. by using the Jet Stream. In 1944 they succeeded by killing a bunch of Church kids in Oregon state. IF they had a nuke they would have surely tried that way. Know your history.

Japanese Balloon Bombs (Fu-Go Weapon)

 

[US Army Retired]

Hiroshima was a city.

Which did not change the fact it was a military target.

Full of innocent civilians.

Those civilians were building war weapons and aiding their war effort to defeat the United States. Civilians in war time are considered Colateral Damage.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Which did not change the fact it was a military target.

Full of innocent civilians.

Those civilians were building war weapons and aiding their war effort to defeat the United States. Civilians in war time are considered Colateral Damage.

So if Japan had bombed Detroit that would have been collateral damage, correct?

 

[csbarry]

So playing your part in the massacring of the Japanese people makes you a war hero? Sounds more like a war criminal to me.

You're a pathetic douche ...

 

[csbarry]

Thanks Morris ...

 

[US Army Retired]

Full of innocent civilians.

Those civilians were building war weapons and aiding their war effort to defeat the United States. Civilians in war time are considered Colateral Damage.

So if Japan had bombed Detroit that would have been collateral damage, correct?

Yes. They would be victims of war.

 

[blu]

So playing your part in the massacring of the Japanese people makes you a war hero? Sounds more like a war criminal to me.

Hey, the Japs drew first blood when they attacked Pearl Harbor. We just ended it with the bomb vaporizing tens of thousands of the treacherous Japs.

the citizens were treacherous to us? and technically we drew the first blood with our embargos that killed people there

 

[blu]

Kennedy wishes we could have had a few hundred thousand more americans killed to fit his utopian model.

No, I wish we didn't feel the need to have an unconditional surrender from Japan. Why weren't we willing to be humble in our victory?

the way they were humble at Pearl? the way they were humble to american POW's? the way they were humble to the population of Nanking? fuck them.

the citizens killed and the future mutated babies did all that?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Those civilians were building war weapons and aiding their war effort to defeat the United States. Civilians in war time are considered Colateral Damage.

So if Japan had bombed Detroit that would have been collateral damage, correct?

Yes. They would be victims of war.

Interesting.

 

[csbarry]

I haven't been this disappointed in any American citizen in my entire 57 years.

 

[elvis]

Is name calling really productive to the discussion?

Oh grow up Kevin. If you seriously believe that America was the aggressor, you are being a wingnut. You seriously do not know your history and whatever you learn from those Libertarian think tanks have seriously warped your mind if you believe that. Nobody here is saying that we loved to drop the bombs on Japan. However, war is full of many actions that are both necessary and difficult. This is one of them.

Grown ups don't generally refer to each other as "wingnuts" in civil conversation. If you can't see how vaporizing innocent civilians is aggressive, then I'm afraid we have little more to discuss. But you know, as well as I do, that had Germany or Japan dropped a nuke on us or anyone else they would have gone down in history as war-criminals.

Grown ups generally know what the fuck they're talking about when entering a discussion.

 

[George Costanza]

The Japanese civilians committed none of those crimes.

Well I certainly find it sad when innocent civilians are killed, whether they're American or otherwise.

Apparently few others here do.

 

[csbarry]

Is name calling really productive to the discussion?

Oh grow up Kevin. If you seriously believe that America was the aggressor, you are being a wingnut. You seriously do not know your history and whatever you learn from those Libertarian think tanks have seriously warped your mind if you believe that. Nobody here is saying that we loved to drop the bombs on Japan. However, war is full of many actions that are both necessary and difficult. This is one of them.

Grown ups don't generally refer to each other as "wingnuts" in civil conversation. If you can't see how vaporizing innocent civilians is aggressive, then I'm afraid we have little more to discuss. But you know, as well as I do, that had Germany or Japan dropped a nuke on us or anyone else they would have gone down in history as war-criminals.

Yes, they would have; and yes they did, because they were.

 

[George Costanza]

Kennedy wishes we could have had a few hundred thousand more americans killed to fit his utopian model.

No, I wish we didn't feel the need to have an unconditional surrender from Japan. Why weren't we willing to be humble in our victory?

the way they were humble at Pearl? the way they were humble to american POW's? the way they were humble to the population of Nanking? fuck them.

Kevin's point is that it is wrong to vaporize civilians for actions of soldiers. How do you feel about that? Do you think that killing tens of thousands of civilians is justified by the fact that their army was waging war against our country?