Why should we give a damn if the Sunnis invade Syria? Let them, and let the Russians/Iranians nuke em. As long as we stay the **** out of it. We don't need to be apart of their proxy wars. As long as we don't elect Hillary or a GOP establishment goon like Jeb, we have a good chance of steering clear of that mess.
War Drums: WWIII Could Start This Month: 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Set To Invade Syria...
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georgephillip
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We might save a lot of lives and money by moving away from "our oil under their soil"I would like to think that depends on who we put in the White House next November, but I'm old enough to know better...
Old enough, but too stupid to know better. Just saying!
"Saudi as a regional security leader
"The Northern Thunder military exercise that began on Monday is a show of power designed to pass the message that Saudi Arabia is a regional security provider, leading a Sunni coalition against Daesch.
"This is the largest indigenous army the region has ever seen. How many troops will participate depends on whom you read: 150-350,000 troops could be engaged.
"The gathering of one of the largest Muslim force in history is a significant message for Daesch, but others may interpret the message differently.
"The Sunni common denominator of all the powers invited to participate could also be seen as a message to Assad, to Iran, and, finally, to Russia."
Northern Thunder: Saudi Arabia as a military superpower
Saudi Arabia and Turkey have been vital supporters of ISIS. Saudi Arabia especially, played a key role in its creation. It was created to kill Assad. So what we're seeing now is actually a declaration of war on the Shiites. That's what this is really about.
No.
ISIS was created by a Jordanian, who once fought in Afghanistan, and then set up shop in Iraq. After we invaded Iraq, he gained power, temporarily aligned himself with Al Qaeda before they realized that ISIS was too bat shit crazy for them- attacked targets in Jordan and Iraq- and then moved into Syria after the Civil war in Syria left a power vaccuum.
Saudi Arabia is a natural target for ISIS- and a natural enemy of ISIS- of course ISIS has declared itself the enemy of every government in the Middle East.
Saudi Arabia was a key player in creating Al Qaeda as well. Along with the U.S. Most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis. And it's been proven they received funding support from prominent Saudis.
But hey they have lots of oil, so who cares they murdered thousands of Americans. They work with us on that oil thing, so it's cool. Not one American kid should be sent to die for those evil bastards. To hell with Saudi Arabia.
"The Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement of 1944 was based on negotiations between the United States and Britain over the control of Middle Eastern oil. Below is shown what the American President Franklin D. Roosevelt had in mind for to a British Ambassador in 1944:
"Persian oil … is yours. We share the oil of Iraq and Kuwait. As for Saudi Arabian oil, it's ours.[7]"
United States foreign policy in the Middle East - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As I recall, FDR was saying this at a time when the US was the world's largest supplier of oil. In theory, we could tax Big Oil into extinction and fund a New Deal 2.0 aimed at replacing fossil fuels as the dominant energy source on this planet?
paulitician
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Yeah, it's been supporting ISIS for a long time. It's still buying ISIS oil. But hey, they're our 'Good Friends' too.
georgephillip
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Here is one expert's testimony illustrating current levels of instability in Jordan:
"Lawrence Wilkerson is a retired United States Army soldier and former chief of staff to United States Secretary of State Colin Powell. Wilkerson is an adjunct professor at the College of William & Mary where he teaches courses on US national security. He also instructs a senior seminar in the Honors Department at the George Washington University entitled 'National Security Decision Making...'"
"WILKERSON: Well, you know, that's interesting that that kind of pressure would be brought. I mean, if you're looking at the Saudis coming in to help fight ISIS, which is the ostensible reason they announced they would come in, how does that hurt Assad? And if you look at the Turks coming in, or the Turks using armaments, ground or air otherwise, to help defeat ISIS, how does that defeat Assad? And yet that's both of their avowed purposes, Riyadh and Ankara, get rid of Assad.
"So this is extremely complex, and it's this kind of miscommunication, this kind of misapplication of military force, this kind of refugee situation, for example, that could lead--and let me tell you about, let me tell you about Jordan.
"Jordan is sitting there with a 1.5 million refugees inside its tiny little borders. You have got, as one of the members of the royal family told me not long ago, in Syracuse in Sicily, you have got an Iraqi or a Syrian family in every single Jordanian home.
"Every single Jordanian home.
"That is massively destabilizing. I suspect southern Lebanon is the same way. I suspect the northern part of Iraq, where the Kurds live, is the same way, because so many Kurds have fled into that region, to get away from the Syrian civil war."
What Turkey & Saudi Arabia Aim to Gain with Possible Ground Invasion in Syria
"Lawrence Wilkerson is a retired United States Army soldier and former chief of staff to United States Secretary of State Colin Powell. Wilkerson is an adjunct professor at the College of William & Mary where he teaches courses on US national security. He also instructs a senior seminar in the Honors Department at the George Washington University entitled 'National Security Decision Making...'"
"WILKERSON: Well, you know, that's interesting that that kind of pressure would be brought. I mean, if you're looking at the Saudis coming in to help fight ISIS, which is the ostensible reason they announced they would come in, how does that hurt Assad? And if you look at the Turks coming in, or the Turks using armaments, ground or air otherwise, to help defeat ISIS, how does that defeat Assad? And yet that's both of their avowed purposes, Riyadh and Ankara, get rid of Assad.
"So this is extremely complex, and it's this kind of miscommunication, this kind of misapplication of military force, this kind of refugee situation, for example, that could lead--and let me tell you about, let me tell you about Jordan.
"Jordan is sitting there with a 1.5 million refugees inside its tiny little borders. You have got, as one of the members of the royal family told me not long ago, in Syracuse in Sicily, you have got an Iraqi or a Syrian family in every single Jordanian home.
"Every single Jordanian home.
"That is massively destabilizing. I suspect southern Lebanon is the same way. I suspect the northern part of Iraq, where the Kurds live, is the same way, because so many Kurds have fled into that region, to get away from the Syrian civil war."
What Turkey & Saudi Arabia Aim to Gain with Possible Ground Invasion in Syria
Better than one run by a paranoid conspiracy nut that makes up facts and figures to suit his purpose! Infowars produces fiction and passes it off as fact for the mental midgets to gobble up!
paulitician
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No entity lies more to you than the American Government/Corporate Media does. For most in America, if they don't see it in the Government/Corporate Media, they can't believe it's true. They wait for their spoon-fed narrative propaganda to have any thoughts. They're like lamb being led to slaughter. They're completely incapable of critical thinking.
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The original sources for these reports are from Saudi news outlets, not Infowars. You may want to go up a couple of posts and read the link from Georgephilip -- that is, if you really cared.
So spare us your totally lame defense (of simply laughing off the source and that's all) which is so prevalent amongst defenders of Islam and defenders of secular humanist leftist "ideals." You pretend you are doing something wonderful for the human race, even though you are more often than not a major tool of destruction and obfuscation. (Sounds like a match made in heaven for another Obama devotee.)
paulitician
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Ah, don't be so hard on em. Most Americns really are sheep. It can't be so if they haven't received the spoon-fed narrative propaganda from the Government/Corporate Media. Most wait for that, before thinking at all.
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