Waitaminute. Isn't the IRS Supposed to Watch Out for Tax Cheats?

[TemplarKormac]

But there goes that all too familiar refrain:

"Bush did it."

When will you liberals ever learn? Or take responsibility?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The IG section of the IRS apparently found the problem, corrected it, and did not bother to tell Congress in the middle of a campaign. No doubt in anybody's mind that this is a tu quoque situation, either party would have acted the same way.

The only real question would be, "Were laws broken?" Why so narrow? The American public today (despite AP, IRS, Benghazi, etc) gave BHO a 53% popularity rating.

 

[The Rabbi]

The IG section of the IRS apparently found the problem, corrected it, and did not bother to tell Congress in the middle of a campaign. No doubt in anybody's mind that this is a tu quoque situation, either party would have acted the same way.

The only real question would be, "Were laws broken?" Why so narrow? The American public today (despite AP, IRS, Benghazi, etc) gave BHO a 53% popularity rating.

NO, they didnt. There was widespread auditing of conservative orgs and their donors. They didnt correct anything. It was abuse, pure and simple. The question is, who ordered this? Why?
Currently the answers being given defy belief.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The IG section of the IRS apparently found the problem, corrected it, and did not bother to tell Congress in the middle of a campaign. No doubt in anybody's mind that this is a tu quoque situation, either party would have acted the same way.

The only real question would be, "Were laws broken?" Why so narrow? The American public today (despite AP, IRS, Benghazi, etc) gave BHO a 53% popularity rating.

NO, they didnt.

Yeah, they did, and you have no support for your low information remarks. The American public will need some massive cover up, and it does not exist.

 

[Zona]

Waitaminute. Isn't the IRS Supposed to Watch Out for Tax Cheats? | Crooks and Liars

Makes sense since the tea party is against taxes in the first place and has a big history of tax abuse/evasion among many of it's members.


The real scandal was allowing them to have that tax exemption in the first place.

No, the real scandal is that assholes like you think there is nothing wrong with using an agency of the government for partisan ends. What the **** is the matter with you??

You mean like republicans in office going after the poor?

 

[Zona]

Waitaminute. Isn't the IRS Supposed to Watch Out for Tax Cheats? | Crooks and Liars

Makes sense since the tea party is against taxes in the first place and has a big history of tax abuse/evasion among many of it's members.


The real scandal was allowing them to have that tax exemption in the first place.

It doesn't matter if the Tea Party is more likely to cheat on their taxes than any other group of people, solely because they are against taxes. You still cannot retroactively target them because they have a particular political belief.

This would be like the police targeting blacks because they are more likely to commit crimes. This would be like the Department of Homeland Security targeting Muslims because they are more likely to commit attacks of Terrorism.

You are not allowed to discriminate based on race, gender, religion or personal beliefs. This would be profiling, and that is wrong.

The right LVOES profiling.

This is just too damn funny really.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Jakey's version of facts.

The IG section of the IRS apparently found the problem, corrected it, and did not bother to tell Congress in the middle of a campaign. No doubt in anybody's mind that this is a tu quoque situation, either party would have acted the same way.

The only real question would be, "Were laws broken?" Why so narrow? The American public today (despite AP, IRS, Benghazi, etc) gave BHO a 53% popularity rating.

Reality.

The IG opened an investigation in 2012. They followed standard practice notifying the Treasury Department and Congress. Upon completion of their investigation they released a report that contains recommendations on how to correct the problem.

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The IG did not fix anything, they do not have the authority to do anything other than investigate.

 

[francoHFW]

Waitaminute. Isn't the IRS Supposed to Watch Out for Tax Cheats? | Crooks and Liars

Makes sense since the tea party is against taxes in the first place and has a big history of tax abuse/evasion among many of it's members.


The real scandal was allowing them to have that tax exemption in the first place.

No, the real scandal is that assholes like you think there is nothing wrong with using an agency of the government for partisan ends. What the **** is the matter with you??

No, the scandal is that ignorant dupes are never told that no GOP groups were ever turned down, though several Dem ones were, and that an audit run by a Bush appointee found there was no partisanship or White House connection. Carry on, brainwashed chump of the greedy idiot hater rich...

 

[AmazonTania]

Waitaminute. Isn't the IRS Supposed to Watch Out for Tax Cheats? | Crooks and Liars

Makes sense since the tea party is against taxes in the first place and has a big history of tax abuse/evasion among many of it's members.


The real scandal was allowing them to have that tax exemption in the first place.

No, the real scandal is that assholes like you think there is nothing wrong with using an agency of the government for partisan ends. What the **** is the matter with you??

You mean like republicans in office going after the poor?

Going after the poor?

 

[AmazonTania]

Waitaminute. Isn't the IRS Supposed to Watch Out for Tax Cheats? | Crooks and Liars

Makes sense since the tea party is against taxes in the first place and has a big history of tax abuse/evasion among many of it's members.


The real scandal was allowing them to have that tax exemption in the first place.

It doesn't matter if the Tea Party is more likely to cheat on their taxes than any other group of people, solely because they are against taxes. You still cannot retroactively target them because they have a particular political belief.

This would be like the police targeting blacks because they are more likely to commit crimes. This would be like the Department of Homeland Security targeting Muslims because they are more likely to commit attacks of Terrorism.

You are not allowed to discriminate based on race, gender, religion or personal beliefs. This would be profiling, and that is wrong.

The right LVOES profiling.

This is just too damn funny really.

Apparently Democrats love it too. What's funny is that wrong is only wrong as long as there is someone else in charge wrongdoing.

It's okay. We're not a nation of laws or anything.

 

[francoHFW]

No, the real scandal is that assholes like you think there is nothing wrong with using an agency of the government for partisan ends. What the **** is the matter with you??

You mean like republicans in office going after the poor?

Going after the poor?

No, the GOP are great friends of the poor LOL. Ay caramba, dupe.

 

[AmazonTania]

No, the GOP are great friends of the poor LOL. Ay caramba, dupe.

Poor, by definition, generally means lacking in something to offer. So for what reason would anyone want to 'go after' poor individuals. Unless it's to pander to them for their votes, in which case I can totally see happening.

 

[The Rabbi]

Waitaminute. Isn't the IRS Supposed to Watch Out for Tax Cheats? | Crooks and Liars

Makes sense since the tea party is against taxes in the first place and has a big history of tax abuse/evasion among many of it's members.


The real scandal was allowing them to have that tax exemption in the first place.

No, the real scandal is that assholes like you think there is nothing wrong with using an agency of the government for partisan ends. What the **** is the matter with you??

You mean like republicans in office going after the poor?

No, I dont mean that. Get the **** back under your rock, jerkoff.

 

[The Rabbi]

Jakey's version of facts.

The IG section of the IRS apparently found the problem, corrected it, and did not bother to tell Congress in the middle of a campaign. No doubt in anybody's mind that this is a tu quoque situation, either party would have acted the same way.

The only real question would be, "Were laws broken?" Why so narrow? The American public today (despite AP, IRS, Benghazi, etc) gave BHO a 53% popularity rating.

Reality.

The IG opened an investigation in 2012. They followed standard practice notifying the Treasury Department and Congress. Upon completion of their investigation they released a report that contains recommendations on how to correct the problem.

​

The IG did not fix anything, they do not have the authority to do anything other than investigate.

Reality is seldom a visitor in the Starkey home.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jakey's version of facts[/quote

The IG section of the IRS apparently found the problem, corrected it, and did not bother to tell Congress in the middle of a campaign. No doubt in anybody's mind that this is a tu quoque situation, either party would have acted the same way.

The only real question would be, "Were laws broken?" Why so narrow? The American public today (despite AP, IRS, Benghazi, etc) gave BHO a 53% popularity rating.

Reality.The IG opened an investigation in 2012.

Yup. That's correct. The rest is the fact that Obama is not being hurt by the IRS fix.

 

[candycorn]

This from the online magazine Salon.

Here’s the best evidence the GOP knows the IRS scandal doesn’t reach into the White House: Now they’re saying they don’t need to find evidence that President Obama directed or even knew about the investigation of Tea Party groups’ non-profit status; his actively campaigning for reelection represented a “dog whistle” to tell the agency to target his political enemies.

The dog whistle quote came via NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday from Peggy Noonan, who can no longer be taken seriously as a writer or pundit. When host David Gregory pressed her on the lack of evidence for her claims that the IRS scandal was worse than Watergate, Noonan insisted that the president “was giving a dog whistle to people who could launch this thing.” The former Reagan-Bush speechwriter vividly summed up, in her thousand points of crazy style, where the IRS “scandal” went over the last few days: Obama didn’t need to order the tax agency to harass Tea Party groups (and his critics don’t need proof that he did so): his criticizing the group during the 2012 campaign, as well as blasting the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision, represented an implicit order to do so.

That argument was put less vividly, thought a bit more coherently, by Noonan’s right-wing Wall Street Journal colleague Kim Strassel. “Was the White House involved in the IRS’s targeting of conservatives?” Strassel asked Friday. Predictably she answered “Of course it was.” Her evidence? Well, in the post-Watergate world, you’re not going to find evidence, Strassel explains:

Mr. Obama didn’t need to pick up the phone. All he needed to do was exactly what he did do, in full view, for three years: Publicly suggest that conservative political groups were engaged in nefarious deeds; publicly call out by name political opponents whom he’d like to see harassed; and publicly have his party pressure the IRS to take action.

Get it? By publicly criticizing the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision, as well as the right-wing groups that rushed to take advantage of the ruling, Obama was putting in motion the IRS investigation. That’s Noonan’s “dog whistle” – an executive order that only IRS agents could hear. Oh: IRS agents, and Peggy Noonan.


Of course, if the term “dog whistle” sounds familiar, that’s because it’s historically been used to describe an ugly brand of American politics in which blatant racial appeals and racist slurs evolved into a new genteel conservative code. Right-wingers stopped using the N-word and other epithets, and talking openly about the inferiority of black people, and instead began railing against crime, welfare, taxes and affirmative action.

Or as top dog whistler Lee Atwater infamously put it in 1981:

You start out in 1954 by saying, “******, ******, ******.” By 1968 you can’t say “******”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “******, ******.”

How ingenious of Peggy Noonan to turn around and accuse our first black president of playing “dog whistle” politics.

It’s wrong to dignify Noonan with too much attention. “Meet the Press” host David Gregory made her look silly on Sunday, although one still questions why she is constantly invited on the show. That “dog whistle” Noonan said she heard is exactly like the “vibrations” she felt that told her Nov. 5 that Mitt Romney was going to win: They’re both imaginary. And that’s sad – for Peggy Noonan.

Meanwhile, the president’s approval rating has climbed since the right began its Scandalgate assault. I’m not going to promise that will continue. But I will promise that mainstream media figures like Noonan, Bob Woodward and of course Jonathan Karl who’ve shamed themselves over the last 10 days are in worse shape than Obama. If only we could vote them out.

Joan Walsh is right about Noonan but we sholdn't forget that this is a scandal and whatever safeguards that are in place need strengthening.

 

[The Rabbi]

When did *you* ever take Peggy Noonan seriously as a writer, sweetcheeks?

 

[zeke]

When did *you* ever take Peggy Noonan seriously as a writer, sweetcheeks?

And what fuking difference does your question make asshole?

Peggy Noonan is a mouthpiece for the fuking rethugs like you. The only reason you are not worshipping her comments on Meet the Press, is that the hated David Gregory made her look the fool.

Which sounding the fool is what todays rethugs, such as yourself, do the best.

IRS scandal as bad as Watergate. How fuking stupid does a rethug have to be to believe that shit? Pretty fuking stupid is the answer. I bet you believe that don't you rabbi?

 

[The Rabbi]

When did *you* ever take Peggy Noonan seriously as a writer, sweetcheeks?

And what fuking difference does your question make asshole?

Peggy Noonan is a mouthpiece for the fuking rethugs like you. The only reason you are not worshipping her comments on Meet the Press, is that the hated David Gregory made her look the fool.

Which sounding the fool is what todays rethugs, such as yourself, do the best.

IRS scandal as bad as Watergate. How fuking stupid does a rethug have to be to believe that shit? Pretty fuking stupid is the answer. I bet you believe that don't you rabbi?

You are an undereducated low information poster. I could explain why the question is perfectly valid. But then you'd have to be capable of understanding that. And you aren't.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The IRS scandal is bad, and the admin is doing the right thing.

It is about 10% serious as Iran Contra, about 1% compared to Washington, DC.