voting in German style

[Zebra]

which way would you vote?

in Europe?

 

[Bleipriester]

xtra far right AfD.

 

[Zebra]

xtra far right AfD.

interesting!

 

[Zebra]

other ….. ÖDP

 

[Bleipriester]

interesting!

Do we have a choice? They literally attack our energy supply, now our food supply. Keep flooding the country with criminals hostile to our freedom and way of life. It is all to create a full dependence on abroad. We will be the dumb asses of Europe. Es ist fünf vor 12.

 

[Zebra]

Do we have a choice? They literally attack our energy supply, now our food supply. Keep flooding the country with criminals hostile to our freedom and way of life. It is all to create a full dependence on abroad. We will be the dumb asses of Europe. Es ist fünf vor 12.

who are THEY?

 

[ESay]

It would be interesting to see the AfD taking power there.

 

[Bleipriester]

who are THEY?

The government of course. Who else?

 

[Bleipriester]

It would be interesting to see the AfD taking power there.

It will probably happen because our puppet government has no authority to abandon their destructive policies. If elections can´t bring about a change, however, they will have to be removed by force. Poverty will enable the Germans and they will revolt.

 

[ESay]

It will probably happen because our puppet government has no authority to abandon their destructive policies. If elections can´t bring about a change, however, they will have to be removed by force. Poverty will enable the Germans and they will revolt.

One of the flaws of a 'European' political system is that the winner doesn't 'take all'. The AfD can get more votes than others, but that doesn't mean they can get the power. Of course if they don't get the absolute majority to form a 'mono-coalition'. But that seems quite unlikely.

Revolt in Germany is hardly possible. To make a revolt you would need a mass of young active people taking part in this and maybe a civil war afterwards.

 

[Bleipriester]

One of the flaws of a 'European' political system is that the winner doesn't 'take all'. The AfD can get more votes than others, but that doesn't mean they can get the power. Of course if they don't get the absolute majority to form a 'mono-coalition'. But that seems quite unlikely.

Revolt in Germany is hardly possible. To make a revolt you would need a mass of young active people taking part in this and maybe a civil war afterwards.

The Germans will realize that it is more important to prevent the AfD than to govern in their interest. Ultimately, the AfD may get over 50 %. They will probably try to ban the party then.

As for revolt, it doesn´t need an army. State employees are not very loyal given their jobs also suffer from the gov´s policies. It could be a simple putsch protected by state employees. The new state also needs employees, you know.

 

[ESay]

The Germans will realize that it is more important to prevent the AfD than to govern in their interest. Ultimately, the AfD may get over 50 %. They will probably try to ban the party then.

As for revolt, it doesn´t need an army. State employees are not very loyal given their jobs also suffer from the gov´s policies. It could be a simple putsch protected by state employees. The new state also needs employees, you know.

Given your demography, I still don't think it is likely. State employees are the most loyal part of the society, btw. To any authority.

 

[Bleipriester]

Given your demography, I still don't think it is likely. State employees are the most loyal part of the society, btw. To any authority.

It is a fact the state employees, particularly the police and the first responders are every day attacked by criminal foreigner gangs. They are attacked, spit at and they can´t do anything about it, because it is their state that has no loyalty and blames them, not the criminals. There were over 7000 violent attacks on police officers in 2013:

Polizei: Wo Beamte Zielscheiben in Uniform sind - WELT

Polizisten beklagen zunehmende Angriffe und fehlenden Respekt. Ein türkischstämmiger Streifenbeamter aus Duisburg erzählt, warum Migranten besondere Probleme bereiten. Multikulti sei gescheitert.

www.welt.de

The day will come and this policy will fire back.

 

[ESay]

It is a fact the state employees, particularly the police and the first responders are every day attacked by criminal foreigner gangs. They are attacked, spit at and they can´t do anything about it, because it is their state that has no loyalty and blames them, not the criminals. There were over 7000 violent attacks on police officers in 2013:

Polizei: Wo Beamte Zielscheiben in Uniform sind - WELT

Polizisten beklagen zunehmende Angriffe und fehlenden Respekt. Ein türkischstämmiger Streifenbeamter aus Duisburg erzählt, warum Migranten besondere Probleme bereiten. Multikulti sei gescheitert.

www.welt.de

The day will come and this policy will fire back.

2013? It is hardly relevant now. But I'll bet the statistics hasn't improved since then. It is doubtful the police can do something with that. Europe will be becoming like America in this regard.

 

[ekrem]

No revolt, no change in Germany as long as USA has dozens of military bases in Germany.

Simple as that !

 

[Bleipriester]

2013? It is hardly relevant now. But I'll bet the statistics hasn't improved since then. It is doubtful the police can do something with that. Europe will be becoming like America in this regard.

It is even worse. Those gangs and criminals do that for fun. I don´t hear from the US that gangs attack first responders or the police for no reason other than being asked for a driving license.

 

[ESay]

It is even worse. Those gangs and criminals do that for fun. I don´t hear from the US that gangs attack first responders or the police for no reason other than being asked for a driving license.

Well, what can be said? Get used to ghettos, ethnical gangs, cartels etc. Some places will be mired in that, another ones will hear about that only from news outlets. Europe won't get back to the Cold War 'golden days' anytime soon.

And of course Germany should grow a backbone in her foreign and domestic policy. Footing the bill for all the EU, seeing her energy sector destroyed and having no say in all that. That really sucks.

 

[Bleipriester]

Well, what can be said? Get used to ghettos, ethnical gangs, cartels etc. Some places will be mired in that, another ones will hear about that only from news outlets. Europe won't get back to the Cold War 'golden days' anytime soon.

The places exist. The gangs that do real business do normally not fight each other, though. They agree to not to question their respective territories. The violence is mostly conducted by smaller, unorganized street gangs. So when you enter a ghetto in Germany, you won´t realize.

And of course Germany should grow a backbone in her foreign and domestic policy. Footing the bill for all the EU, seeing her energy sector destroyed and having no say in all that. That really sucks.

In fact, its not so much money that Germany pays. And they do have a say, they just don´t want to. In the first decade of this millennium, it was the Germans that constantly insisted on conceding power to the EU. It was a daily tenor.

 

[ESay]

The places exist. The gangs that do real business do normally not fight each other, though. They agree to not to question their respective territories. The violence is mostly conducted by smaller, unorganized street gangs. So when you enter a ghetto in Germany, you won´t realize.



In fact, its not so much money that Germany pays. And they do have a say, they just don´t want to. In the first decade of this millennium, it was the Germans that constantly insisted on conceding power to the EU. It was a daily tenor.

The European Union is a great concept. But it just can't exist in a form it exists now. It should either step back to just a common market area, or moving toward a 'super-federation' scrapping the unanimous approval vote principle.

 

[Bleipriester]

The European Union is a great concept. But it just can't exist in a form it exists now. It should either step back to just a common market area, or moving toward a 'super-federation' scrapping the unanimous approval vote principle.

Viewed objectively, the current form is the only working one for now. A common market would work but not in the broad picture. It would not move the countries closer to each other. In the current situation, the competition can even lead to tensions.
On the other hand a federation is not yet suitable. Europe is not America, where the states always were in some form of unity. The Europeans are not ready for a unity government. I personally tend to the conclusion that the current situation is a result of the EU and prefer an exit for now.