Video Shows Secret Service Does Not Clear Trump from Stage While it Has Shooter in Sights, Allows Him First Shot

[munkle]

Trump was not whisked off stage while Secret Service snipers were locked onto man with rifle, who had been reported by rally-goers, then confronted by a cop who climbed the ladder then climbed back down when the shooter aimed at him. Cop did not holler or radio to clear the president from the stage or get him down. Secret Service snipers allow gunman to get first shots.

The shot which hit Trump's ear missed his head by an inch. Head shot at over 100 yards.


Trump heads to convention as authorities investigate motive, security in assassination attempt

AP, "Trump heads to convention as authorities investigate motive, security in assassination attempt" BY JULIE CARR SMYTH, July 14, 2024

"The gunman had his father’s AR-style rifle and was perched atop a nearby roof when some rallygoers pointed him out to local law enforcement, said two law enforcement officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing criminal probe.

A local law enforcement officer climbed to the roof and found Crooks, who pointed the rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder, and the gunman quickly fired toward Trump, the officials said. That’s when U.S. Secret Service gunmen shot him, the officials said.'"

Second Eyewitness at Trump's Rally Comes Forward and Tells CBS He Warned Officers of Shooter Crawling on Roof (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Anthony Scott

 

[crossbody]

so much he say-she say, could of, would of, should of

I'm with Trump... we have a convention to do; get me to Milwaukee. Lara Trump has been working her tail off to prepare this RNC.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I warned you guys for years that there would be consequences if you allow Establishment politicians who have been in positions of authority for 40-50 years to undermine norms and the America all in their efforts to usurp Trump. As I referred to it, "unintended consequences".

All of MSM including many at Fox News were silent as Biden didn't even campaign in 2020. Then you had media telling you that he was sharper than all of his team who were decades younger, until the debate.

The impeachments, Russia, Russia, Jan 6th Committee, lawfare. Now when you desperately want and need citizens and the world to trust the government after Trump is almost assassinated, the faith is gone.

I ask for the 1000th time, "exactly who benefits from all of this"? Listen to the Europeans who are interviewed on different channels. They are understanding more than ever how important it is that America doesn't fail.

 

[buckeye]

The impeachments, Russia, Russia, Jan 6th Committee, lawfare. Now when you desperately want and need citizens and the world to trust the government after Trump is almost assassinated, the faith is gone.

And Covid......so many people lost faith in govt from their massive mismanagement and constant lying to us.

 

[candycorn]

I warned you guys for years that there would be consequences if you allow Establishment politicians who have been in positions of authority for 40-50 years to undermine norms and the America all in their efforts to usurp Trump. As I referred to it, "unintended consequences".

All of MSM including many at Fox News were silent as Biden didn't even campaign in 2020. Then you had media telling you that he was sharper than all of his team who were decades younger, until the debate.

The impeachments, Russia, Russia, Jan 6th Committee, lawfare. Now when you desperately want and need citizens and the world to trust the government after Trump is almost assassinated, the faith is gone.

I ask for the 1000th time, "exactly who benefits from all of this"? Listen to the Europeans who are interviewed on different channels. They are understanding more than ever how important it is that America doesn't fail.

Who benefits from all this? The right wing conspiracy mills and kook websites.

You’d do well to stop feeding that beast.

As for the Secret Service, I’ve long thought that there was something up with that entire agency.

2016:

Security for President elect Trump and his family need to be a parmount concern. There are a lot of crazy assed lunatics out there who think his ascention to the Presidency somehow spells the end of the world... And lets face it; a lot of people hate his guts and for good reason. He acts like a bully.

Security needs to be job one...Not just on 1/20 but everyday.

It isn't talked about much but there were some serious lapses by the Secret Service during the 2nd Obama Term. While I think it was more due to complacency than any one other factor...these women and men need to be vigilant 24/7. We don't know what President Trump's management style is. Obama's seemed to be "no drama" and it seemed to really suck from time to time; as if his subordinates were not going to bring him bad news. He said more than once, that he found out about things in the newspaper. Not good. When it comes to the security of himself, Vice President Pence and their families...failure is not an option.

2015:

The Secret Service scandals are scandals. Agents have, at best, compromised their agency knowingly and willfully. I understand that "boys will be boys" and all that but the security details of our highest elected office holders should be taken more seriously. Its unclear if something has been illegal but it does speak to the man's [Obama’s] management style.

And we probably all remember the time some reality show morons made it into the White House (not the Trumps) in 2009.

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Although It isn’t clear if that was a SS screw up or not.

What we may have seen is the ugly flower of the mismanagement that has gone on for years. And I really do “get it”...being constantly vigilant is a very hard thing to achieve as a person much less as an organization. Then having to go from a standing start where everything is normal to full deployment in seconds is, well, nothing short of a miracle if it happens flawlessly. I mean, think about it....if you had to do something as low-stakes as leaving your house in 15-30 seconds during a fire, do you think it would go off without a hitch. Not only do these women and men have to protect the President from the initial threat but also from any other hostile actors.

In the case of Trump being shot, from all of the footage I’ve seen (working double shifts so it’s not been much admittedly), there seems to have been a lot of folks in the audience who knew there was a suspicious person with a gun. And, as the OP said, they seemed to have been aware of this figure in a place he shouldn’t have been and didn’t eliminate him prior to his firing the first shot.
I don’t know the exact ROE but I just assumed that anyone who was somewhere where they shouldn’t be was to be treated as a threat. Maybe not.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Who benefits from all this? The right wing conspiracy mills and kook websites.

You’d do well to stop feeding that beast.

As for the Secret Service, I’ve long thought that there was something up with that entire agency.

2016:


2015:


And we probably all remember the time some reality show morons made it into the White House (not the Trumps) in 2009.

Michaele Salahi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Although It isn’t clear if that was a SS screw up or not.

What we may have seen is the ugly flower of the mismanagement that has gone on for years. And I really do “get it”...being constantly vigilant is a very hard thing to achieve as a person much less as an organization. Then having to go from a standing start where everything is normal to full deployment in seconds is, well, nothing short of a miracle if it happens flawlessly. I mean, think about it....if you had to do something as low-stakes as leaving your house in 15-30 seconds during a fire, do you think it would go off without a hitch. Not only do these women and men have to protect the President from the initial threat but also from any other hostile actors.

In the case of Trump being shot, from all of the footage I’ve seen (working double shifts so it’s not been much admittedly), there seems to have been a lot of folks in the audience who knew there was a suspicious person with a gun. And, as the OP said, they seemed to have been aware of this figure in a place he shouldn’t have been and didn’t eliminate him prior to his firing the first shot.
I don’t know the exact ROE but I just assumed that anyone who was somewhere where they shouldn’t be was to be treated as a threat. Maybe not.

Someone where they shouldn't be in a higher ground position lying flat with a rifle pointed at the VIP. That's an instant "shoot first ask questions later" scenario obvioisly. None of the details I have seen and heard bring any particular confidence, greatly increased due to the fact the secret service.leaders havent taken questions. Maybd they have reasons to believe that something is amiss. One popular.youtuber showed a video of the sniper who ultimately killed the assassin and it appears that he had him on his scope but waited until the shots were first fired at Trump before he shot him. Maybe the youtube misrepresented the facts of the situation but that is how he portrayed it. The way to eliminate conspiracies is with full transparency. This has been lacking in anything surrounding Trunp for years so again I ask "who benefits from this"?

 

[candycorn]

Someone where they shouldn't be in a higher ground position lying flat with a rifle pointed at the VIP. That's an instant "shoot first ask questions later" scenario obvioisly.

That is my understanding.

None of the details I have seen and heard bring any particular confidence, greatly increased due to the fact the secret service.leaders havent taken questions. Maybd they have reasons to believe that something is amiss. One popular.youtuber showed a video of the sniper who ultimately killed the assassin and it appears that he had him on his scope but waited until the shots were first fired at Trump before he shot him. Maybe the youtube misrepresented the facts of the situation but that is how he portrayed it.

Well, the nightmare is that you kill someone just trying to get a better view.

The way to eliminate conspiracies is with full transparency. This has been lacking in anything surrounding Trunp for years so again I ask "who benefits from this"?

Yeah, this is where you start swimming in bullshit.

Your blob lost the 2020 election. There were recounts, audits, certifications, all done in the open. Yet you guys still run around screaming “fraud”. There are a dozen other instances I can point to where you guys do the same thing. The only thing that eliminates conspiracies is for you to grow the fuck up and stop pretending that you were victimized. And while you’re at it, you can also stop inventing victimizers like the “swamp” and the “deep state”. Your assailant was a registered republican loser who shouldn’t have been anywhere near a gun.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Trump was not whisked off stage while Secret Service snipers were locked onto man with rifle, who had been reported by rally-goers, then confronted by a cop who climbed the ladder then climbed back down when the shooter aimed at him. Cop did not holler or radio to clear the president from the stage or get him down. Secret Service snipers allow gunman to get first shots.

The shot which hit Trump's ear missed his head by an inch. Head shot at over 100 yards.


Trump heads to convention as authorities investigate motive, security in assassination attempt

AP, "Trump heads to convention as authorities investigate motive, security in assassination attempt" BY JULIE CARR SMYTH, July 14, 2024

"The gunman had his father’s AR-style rifle and was perched atop a nearby roof when some rallygoers pointed him out to local law enforcement, said two law enforcement officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing criminal probe.

A local law enforcement officer climbed to the roof and found Crooks, who pointed the rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder, and the gunman quickly fired toward Trump, the officials said. That’s when U.S. Secret Service gunmen shot him, the officials said.'"

Second Eyewitness at Trump's Rally Comes Forward and Tells CBS He Warned Officers of Shooter Crawling on Roof (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Anthony Scott

Exactly,witnesses told police that they saw the shooter on the building yet they did nothing.only an idiot would say this was not a deep state plot against trump especially sense trump asked fir beefed up security but was denied it by bide,trump is not Hitler as the media and Demonrats keep saying,Biden is.

 

[shockedcanadian]

That is my understanding.

Well, the nightmare is that you kill someone just trying to get a better view.


Yeah, this is where you start swimming in bullshit.

Your blob lost the 2020 election. There were recounts, audits, certifications, all done in the open. Yet you guys still run around screaming “fraud”. There are a dozen other instances I can point to where you guys do the same thing. The only thing that eliminates conspiracies is for you to grow the fuck up and stop pretending that you were victimized. And while you’re at it, you can also stop inventing victimizers like the “swamp” and the “deep state”. Your assailant was a registered republican loser who shouldn’t have been anywhere near a gun.

Who are "you giuys? Stop treating politics as some binary,.uniform duopoly of people.who engage in obedient Groupthink. Some of us just call balls.and strikes. I am too insignificant to dictate wno is right or wrong, but not naive enough to pretend my eyesight and common sense are not functioning properly. If you think 10M+ illegal citzens is either sustainable or beneficial for.America then make your case.

 

[candycorn]

Who are "you giuys?

Trump supporters.

Stop treating politics as some binary,.uniform duopoly of people.who engage in obedient Groupthink.

LOL...yeah; you first.

Some of us just call balls.and strikes. I am too insignificant to dictate wno is right or wrong, but not naive enough to pretend my eyesight and common sense are not functioning properly. If you think 10M+ illegal citzens is either sustainable or beneficial for.America then make your case.

If you think getting rid of 10M+ people out of the workforce is going to be beneficial...make your case.

 

[candycorn]

Exactly,witnesses told police that they saw the shooter on the building yet they did nothing.only an idiot would say this was not a deep state plot against trump especially sense trump asked fir beefed up security but was denied it by bide,trump is not Hitler as the media and Demonrats keep saying,Biden is.

So instead of just poisoning his food or whatever where they could do it in private and have a “deep state” doctor say that the blob croaked from having a cholesterol number higher than the national debt...you think they hatched this kookie plan to have the blob taken out by some 20 year old loser--much like yourself when you were 20--who MISSED?

You’re so dumb you couldn’t pour piss out of a boot in the instructions were on the heel.

I love a good conspaircy theory. Too bad this isn’t one of them.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Trump supporters.

LOL...yeah; you first.

If you think getting rid of 10M+ people out of the workforce is going to be beneficial...make your case.

Are you suggesting that all 10M+ illegals, women, children, cartel members, many unable to speak English and/or who lack skills training are all.working? First at would be illegal. Second they are taking jobs from.Americans.who need em.under the stress of inflation. Inflation now.made.worse.due to housijg 10M new.citizens

 

[candycorn]

Are you suggesting that all 10M+ illegals, women, children, cartel members, many unable to speak English and/or who lack skills training are all.working?

Are you suggesting that 330M natives women, children, who speak English are all working?

First at would be illegal. Second they are taking jobs from.Americans.who need em.under the stress of inflation. Inflation now.made.worse.due to housijg 10M new.citizens

Yeah buddy...so lets say that we get rid of all the brown people. What then? The price of labor shoots through the roof because, as we’ve seen time and again, they are doing grunt work that few who were born here want to do.

Sorry to destroy your asinine argument with a little reality but you make it so easy.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Are you suggesting that 330M natives women, children, who speak English are all working?

Yeah buddy...so lets say that we get rid of all the brown people. What then? The price of labor shoots through the roof because, as we’ve seen time and again, they are doing grunt work that few who were born here want to do.

Sorry to destroy your asinine argument with a little reality but you make it so easy.

Then why not just fly in 200M from China and another.200M from India?

 

[candycorn]

Then why not just fly in 200M from China and another.200M from India?

You want to import 400M people?

I think your crazy train has run off the tracks.

 

[shockedcanadian]

You want to import 400M people?

I think your crazy train has run off the tracks.

Based on your suggesrion that more is better, I am using your argument. So why not? As you said, it will keep labour costs low and ensure an endless supply of workers to do the "grunt" work as you expressed.

 

[candycorn]

Based on your suggesrion that more is better, I am using your argument.

Could you imagine if that was my argument?

So why not?

Well, I don’t think we have enough jobs to fill with 400M new workers for one thing.

As you said, it will keep labour costs low and ensure an endless supply of workers to do the "grunt" work as you expressed.

It will likely create a housing crisis thus sending the price of housing through the roof (no pun intended).

You really do have trouble thinking things through, don’t you?

 

[Yarddog]

Someone where they shouldn't be in a higher ground position lying flat with a rifle pointed at the VIP. That's an instant "shoot first ask questions later" scenario obvioisly. None of the details I have seen and heard bring any particular confidence, greatly increased due to the fact the secret service.leaders havent taken questions. Maybd they have reasons to believe that something is amiss. One popular.youtuber showed a video of the sniper who ultimately killed the assassin and it appears that he had him on his scope but waited until the shots were first fired at Trump before he shot him. Maybe the youtube misrepresented the facts of the situation but that is how he portrayed it. The way to eliminate conspiracies is with full transparency. This has been lacking in anything surrounding Trunp for years so again I ask "who benefits from this"?

Its at least a CLEAR TRUMP from the stage situation, but aparently all the security detail were not communicating with each other with COMS, so that important communication could never happen.
Law enforcement was opperating blind.
Someone in charge of all that needs to be fired

 

[Weatherman2020]

Trump was not whisked off stage while Secret Service snipers were locked onto man with rifle, who had been reported by rally-goers, then confronted by a cop who climbed the ladder then climbed back down when the shooter aimed at him. Cop did not holler or radio to clear the president from the stage or get him down. Secret Service snipers allow gunman to get first shots.

The shot which hit Trump's ear missed his head by an inch. Head shot at over 100 yards.


Trump heads to convention as authorities investigate motive, security in assassination attempt

AP, "Trump heads to convention as authorities investigate motive, security in assassination attempt" BY JULIE CARR SMYTH, July 14, 2024

"The gunman had his father’s AR-style rifle and was perched atop a nearby roof when some rallygoers pointed him out to local law enforcement, said two law enforcement officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing criminal probe.

A local law enforcement officer climbed to the roof and found Crooks, who pointed the rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder, and the gunman quickly fired toward Trump, the officials said. That’s when U.S. Secret Service gunmen shot him, the officials said.'"

Second Eyewitness at Trump's Rally Comes Forward and Tells CBS He Warned Officers of Shooter Crawling on Roof (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Anthony Scott

Yep. SS was ordered to let shooters shoot first.

 

[Mac-7]

Well, the nightmare is that you kill someone just trying to get a better view.

Someone carrying a rifle?

Someone who the SS allowed to be on the roof where he should not be?