Victims of Communism

[Soupnazi630]

Communism has no real system for checks and balance of power. And under Communism its necessary that the State have total control of its population to make sure everything is fair and equal. Problem is, that since the beginning of time man has been competative and they will cheat even inside that Communist system that is supposed to be fair. You will have large numbers of people without representation or recourse. The Soviet Union was a travesty.

Without addressing the legitimacy of your statements, which beg to be questioned, what does any of that have to do with what sharik said? None of that gives license to Western capitalist powers for undermining another nation's right to self determination.

Communism is precisely the opposite of self determination so your argument is irrelevant.

Undermining an evil system of government is not something which needed a license. We had as much right to undermine the USSR as we did the third reich, even before the second world war.

People have a right to self determination. I can't imagine how you would think otherwise. It is a principle enshrined in our own declaration of independence.

True.

But once again communism is exactly the opposite of self determination it is slavery and totalitarianism by design and practice.

That is entirely bullshit but regardless, it is still none of your business how Russians organize themselves.

It is entirely fact and yes it is our business how they have communism which IS by design slavery imposed on them especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Communism has no real system for checks and balance of power.

neither capitalism does.

The Soviet Union was a travesty.

what country is not if so?

True,

Capitalism is strictly economics and self regulating whereas communism is a political system rooted in slavery violence and totalitarianism.

The US has checks and balances and is no travesty but to the contrary is the best nation ever created and that is objective fact.

 

[Tehon]

Without addressing the legitimacy of your statements, which beg to be questioned, what does any of that have to do with what sharik said? None of that gives license to Western capitalist powers for undermining another nation's right to self determination.

Communism is precisely the opposite of self determination so your argument is irrelevant.

Undermining an evil system of government is not something which needed a license. We had as much right to undermine the USSR as we did the third reich, even before the second world war.

People have a right to self determination. I can't imagine how you would think otherwise. It is a principle enshrined in our own declaration of independence.

True.

But once again communism is exactly the opposite of self determination it is slavery and totalitarianism by design and practice.

That is entirely bullshit but regardless, it is still none of your business how Russians organize themselves.

It is entirely fact and yes it is our business how they have communism which IS by design slavery imposed on them especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

When did this take place exactly?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Communism is precisely the opposite of self determination so your argument is irrelevant.

Undermining an evil system of government is not something which needed a license. We had as much right to undermine the USSR as we did the third reich, even before the second world war.

People have a right to self determination. I can't imagine how you would think otherwise. It is a principle enshrined in our own declaration of independence.

True.

But once again communism is exactly the opposite of self determination it is slavery and totalitarianism by design and practice.

That is entirely bullshit but regardless, it is still none of your business how Russians organize themselves.

It is entirely fact and yes it is our business how they have communism which IS by design slavery imposed on them especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

When did this take place exactly?

1848

 

[Tehon]

People have a right to self determination. I can't imagine how you would think otherwise. It is a principle enshrined in our own declaration of independence.

True.

But once again communism is exactly the opposite of self determination it is slavery and totalitarianism by design and practice.

That is entirely bullshit but regardless, it is still none of your business how Russians organize themselves.

It is entirely fact and yes it is our business how they have communism which IS by design slavery imposed on them especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

When did this take place exactly?

1848

A true testament to the power of the words.

 

[Soupnazi630]

True.

But once again communism is exactly the opposite of self determination it is slavery and totalitarianism by design and practice.

That is entirely bullshit but regardless, it is still none of your business how Russians organize themselves.

It is entirely fact and yes it is our business how they have communism which IS by design slavery imposed on them especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

When did this take place exactly?

1848

A true testament to the power of the words.

If you mean the words of the diseased fool marx yes. Millions have perished and been enslaved due to the power of his words over the small minded.

 

[Skull]

People have a right to self determination. I can't imagine how you would think otherwise. It is a principle enshrined in our own declaration of independence.

A clueless, ignorant remark. The only 'people' in any communist nation that have 'rights' are the totalitarian leadership clique.

 

[Tehon]

That is entirely bullshit but regardless, it is still none of your business how Russians organize themselves.

It is entirely fact and yes it is our business how they have communism which IS by design slavery imposed on them especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

When did this take place exactly?

1848

A true testament to the power of the words.

If you mean the words of the diseased fool marx yes. Millions have perished and been enslaved due to the power of his words over the small minded.

No, I mean the irrational fear they produced among the capitalist ruling class. It was this irrational fear that ultimately led to much misery and suffering as the ruling class brought down the iron fist on the developing societies attuned to his words.

To think that you still shit your pants over those words to this day. Powerful.

 

[Skull]

you in fact sent money to The 3rd Reich that was defeated by CCCP against all odds, and CCCP under Gorbatchov already wasn't Communist when destroyed, it was about to go world markets & finances, this is why it was destroyed actually.

The main reason the CCCP defeated the Nazi invasion of Soviet territory was because FDR had sent military supplies to Stalin's brave but poorly equipped military. Not to mention the efforts of the invading USA's military forces bombing Germany and Patton and others defeating them on the ground.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It is entirely fact and yes it is our business how they have communism which IS by design slavery imposed on them especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

especially when the same totalitarian states openly declared their goal to be our destruction.

When did this take place exactly?

1848

A true testament to the power of the words.

If you mean the words of the diseased fool marx yes. Millions have perished and been enslaved due to the power of his words over the small minded.

No, I mean the irrational fear they produced among the capitalist ruling class. It was this irrational fear that ultimately led to much misery and suffering as the ruling class brought down the iron fist on the developing societies attuned to his words.

To think that you still shit your pants over those words to this day. Powerful.

Wrong.

it is not irrational to fear an ideology which calls for and leads to slavery and totalitarianism which is what communism is.

It is not irrational to fear a government which follows that sort of ideology and commits genocide.
There is no capitalist ruling class by any reasonable or intelligent definition. This claim of such a class is one of marx;'s many idiotic assertions.

Societies are attuned to nothing. His words were spread by insane, blood thirsty individuals who were never harmed by capitalism but instead simply sought to oppress others.


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[Skull]

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[Tehon]

When did this take place exactly?

1848

A true testament to the power of the words.

If you mean the words of the diseased fool marx yes. Millions have perished and been enslaved due to the power of his words over the small minded.

No, I mean the irrational fear they produced among the capitalist ruling class. It was this irrational fear that ultimately led to much misery and suffering as the ruling class brought down the iron fist on the developing societies attuned to his words.

To think that you still shit your pants over those words to this day. Powerful.

Wrong.

it is not irrational to fear an ideology which calls for and leads to slavery and totalitarianism which is what communism is.

It is not irrational to fear a government which follows that sort of ideology and commits genocide.
There is no capitalist ruling class by any reasonable or intelligent definition. This claim of such a class is one of marx;'s many idiotic assertions.

Societies are attuned to nothing. His words were spread by insane, blood thirsty individuals who were never harmed by capitalism but instead simply sought to oppress others.


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Marxism does not call for slavery nor totalitarianism. It is an ideology that promotes freedom and democracy, the kind that can never be delivered by capitalism.

A great many of the countries and leaders that the US has undermined and overthrown in the name of capital were democratic.

 

[Yarddog]

Communism has no real system for checks and balance of power.

neither capitalism does.

The Soviet Union was a travesty.

what country is not if so?

True,

Capitalism is strictly economics and self regulating whereas communism is a political system rooted in slavery violence and totalitarianism.

The US has checks and balances and is no travesty but to the contrary is the best nation ever created and that is objective fact.

Agreed,
Capitalism at its simplest form is just people making choices with what to do with their life, whilst in a communist system, its end game is the government making those 'better' choices for you.
Some can still remember there were a lot of people killed trying to get past the Berlin wall over the years.
If it was so great over there why did people risk so much to get out and why did a communist system that is supposedly for the people need to keep them kept as captives?

 

[Soupnazi630]

1848

A true testament to the power of the words.

If you mean the words of the diseased fool marx yes. Millions have perished and been enslaved due to the power of his words over the small minded.

No, I mean the irrational fear they produced among the capitalist ruling class. It was this irrational fear that ultimately led to much misery and suffering as the ruling class brought down the iron fist on the developing societies attuned to his words.

To think that you still shit your pants over those words to this day. Powerful.

Wrong.

it is not irrational to fear an ideology which calls for and leads to slavery and totalitarianism which is what communism is.

It is not irrational to fear a government which follows that sort of ideology and commits genocide.
There is no capitalist ruling class by any reasonable or intelligent definition. This claim of such a class is one of marx;'s many idiotic assertions.

Societies are attuned to nothing. His words were spread by insane, blood thirsty individuals who were never harmed by capitalism but instead simply sought to oppress others.


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Marxism does not call for slavery nor totalitarianism. It is an ideology that promotes freedom and democracy, the kind that can never be delivered by capitalism.

A great many of the countries and leaders that the US has undermined and overthrown in the name of capital were democratic.

Wrong.

Communism is an ideology which calls for slavery and totalitarianism. The dictatorship of the proletariat means PRECISELY a totalitarian system. " From each according to his ability and from each according to his need " is absolutely a description of slavery.

A slave has nothing to be taken from them EXCEPT their ability " FROM each according to his ABILITY " A slave is always given precisely what they NEED to survive. TO EACH according to their NEED.

In a truly free society which is a capitalist society a person's ability is theirs to profit by and to prosper with it does not belong to others to be taken from them. Communism demands it be taken from them by force. In a truly free society which is a capitalist society no one may dictate what another is worthy of owning or possessing and every one is free to provide for their own needs which is every individuals responsibility.

Hanging the words " of the proletariat " after the word dictatorship does not make it a better form of dictatorship. It is still a despotic and totalitarian system as Marx specifically stated..

His most idiotic claim is that it would whither away and die to replaced by utopia. He was either the greatest fool that ever lived bcause dictatorships NEVER willingly give up power or he was a simple liar.

Either way he described and demanded a totalitarian system of universal slavery and that is fact you cannot refute. His words not mine and they prove me correct and you massively ignorant and wrong.

Capitalism is based on non aggression communism is based on enforcement through terror.

The fact is that no communists system has ever been democratic they are ALL universally totalitarian nightmares because they are falling an ideology which demands it.

The general statement that the US has overthrown democracies is unproven and irrelevant because communism is the enemy of freedom and democracy and no communist state is a democracy.

 

[Skull]

A soft-power propaganda spinoff of Red Chinese communism are the Confucius Institutes pervading USA colleges & even high schools:

How Many Confucius Institutes Are in the United States? | National Association of Scholars

 

[Soupnazi630]

1848

A true testament to the power of the words.

If you mean the words of the diseased fool marx yes. Millions have perished and been enslaved due to the power of his words over the small minded.

No, I mean the irrational fear they produced among the capitalist ruling class. It was this irrational fear that ultimately led to much misery and suffering as the ruling class brought down the iron fist on the developing societies attuned to his words.

To think that you still shit your pants over those words to this day. Powerful.

Wrong.

it is not irrational to fear an ideology which calls for and leads to slavery and totalitarianism which is what communism is.

It is not irrational to fear a government which follows that sort of ideology and commits genocide.
There is no capitalist ruling class by any reasonable or intelligent definition. This claim of such a class is one of marx;'s many idiotic assertions.

Societies are attuned to nothing. His words were spread by insane, blood thirsty individuals who were never harmed by capitalism but instead simply sought to oppress others.


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Marxism does not call for slavery nor totalitarianism. It is an ideology that promotes freedom and democracy, the kind that can never be delivered by capitalism.

A great many of the countries and leaders that the US has undermined and overthrown in the name of capital were democratic.

You have been massively proven wrong communism does call for slavery and totalitarianism as i have proven and we are justified in overthrowing and undermining such evil

 

[sharik]

the soviets who you are massively ignorant of could not produce and DISTRIBUTE enough to feed their own people and the importation kept them from starvation.

i lived in CCCP and seen 99% of what was in the shops was domestically produced, with very little imports involved and certainly none from USA, what 'starvation'? CCCP had no problems with food provision, even in the worst days of perestroika when the authorities cut the shops from food delivery so that Western media hacks could rush in to film footages of 'empty shelves' to show you.

I hate nothing at all about russia and have said nothing derogatory or insulting about russia or the russians.

you just called the country i was born a 'miserable hell' which it of course wasn't as i well remember CCCP was a happy place where many things were for free and no stress at all.

 

[sharik]

The main reason the CCCP defeated the Nazi invasion of Soviet territory was because FDR had sent military supplies to Stalin's brave but poorly equipped military. Not to mention the efforts of the invading USA's military forces bombing Germany and Patton and others defeating them on the ground.

what a hogwash... go and sue your education & media. Lend Lease was a hoax, it existed mainly on paper. Red Army was well equipped, of course, even better then Nazis; go read up on the subject before making statements. Red Army also destroyed over 80% of Nazi Germany best troops, as shown by Nazi casualties per battle; and what battles it were! Moscow, Kursk, Stalingrad; then again it was Soviets who took Berlin and thus put an end to wars; no other army could perform anything like this! Western Allies meanwhile were cowardly bombing German civilians: the elderly, children and women. USA military is only good for Hollywood movies.

 

[sharik]

The only 'people' in any communist nation that have 'rights' are the totalitarian leadership clique.

look, i was born in CCCP, i lived and studied there; i had rights for free education, free healthcare and rights for the entertainment provided at no price; and i wasn't in any coterie.

here's what life in CCCP was like in the late 1940s for example -

 

[sharik]

A great many of the countries and leaders that the US has undermined and overthrown in the name of capital were democratic.

right on. CCCP was already democratic when they destroyed it. CIA saboteurs would have nothing on CCCP if it remained Communist by 1991.

there were a lot of people killed trying to get past the Berlin wall over the years.

'a lot' but in fact how many? what's the precise number to make a fuss about?

If it was so great over there why did people risk so much to get out and why did a communist system that is supposedly for the people need to keep them kept as captives?

when your a runaway criminal or delinquent, you sure would risk as much; has nothing to do with 'system'. Western Propaganda ranted about 'Soviet dissidents' who turned out to be Russian Mafia once they were allowed into the West.