But the jury saw it and you did not. You choose to believe this anonymous person who is making a claim that cannot be substantiated, is that about the size of it?
Verdict reached in Karmelo murder trial
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RetiredGySgt
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he has already stated several times that a push JUSTIFIED the murder.
Ghost of a Rider
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I got about halfway through it and that was all I could stand. The white guy's a f***ing moron and neither one of them offered new or different evidence. Most of it was mere speculation as to how they think Hunter would have acted and what went through Karmelo's mind in that situation. Neither of which either one of them has a f***ing clue.
They both made claims that are simply not true and they completely mischaracterized the events that in no way conformed to sworn testimony. They put the onus of guilt on Hunter because (the black guy says) Hunter contradicted his testimony when he at first said "WE asked Karmelo to leave" and later said "Austin asked him to leave".
The idiot framed this as Hunter throwing Austin under the bus after instigating the situation. But there's a very simple explanation for this: Austin was the first to ask Karmelo to leave. When Karmelo refused and dared Austin to put his hands on him, Hunter then joined in and asked Karmelo to leave. When Karmelo still refused to leave, multiple people asked Karmelo to leave. Thus, "I asked Karmelo to leave" and "WE asked Karmelo to leave" are both true. No contradiction in testimony here.
Here's a breakdown of a few other comments that stood out for me in the first ten minutes.
The black guy: "A number of people said Hunter is the one who facilitated that altercation...threw the first punch...a haymaker..."
He doesn't cite who these people were and no one testified that a punch was thrown, not even the witness for the defense. This is a lie and an internet rumor. Nothing more.
Black guy about Hunter: "You caused your brother to be killed..."
Pure speculation based on the assumption that Hunter contradicted his own testimony, which he did not.
White guy: Karmelo was facing "Multiple assailants".
There were no "assailants" at all let alone a multitude. No one threatened him or made any move to assault him. Austin is the only one that put a hand on him.
White guy: "They owned his (Karmelo's) black body."
Pure speculation as to what went through the mind of the people in the tent asking Karmelo to leave. He had no basis on which to make this assumption, especially considering there were other blacks there also asking Karmelo to leave the tent.
White guy: "They are against me"
More speculation as to what went through Karmelo's mind.
I couldn't watch any more than that because by then I knew the rest of it was just more speculation, assumptions and outright lies. Sorry, but this was anything but an expert breakdown of the "bogus" narrative.
You don’t compare equal cases. Quit making this about race,
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A lie by a black antisemite, who goes around yelling racist at everyone else.
The landowners were paid in the 0.4% of Middle East land that is Israel. Did a single Jew receive a penny when they were driven off 99.6% of the Middle East lands where they owned property and land?
Your double standards just shriek Jew-hate.
This case isn’t about race, it’s about murder.
They all killed someone, race is the only unequal.
No, I don't know it because those were the facts presented in court in both cases.
No, because of the law.
Yes, how dare that uppity black boy not leave a tent. Those Metcalf boys were gonna put that negro in his place, just like their dad told them to when he was talking smack like "Watermelon Felon" at home.
"Stand Your Ground" doesn't apply to black people. We've already established this many times. LIke the lady who went to jail because she fired a warning shot in her own home to chase off her abusive husband.
Marissa Alexander: A Miscarriage of Justice - Guild Notes
[UPDATE: Marissa Alexander was freed February 2017!] By Kerry McLean, Anti-Sexism Committee Chair A miscarriage of justice has occurred in Florida. You might be wondering which instance I am referring to. From hanging chads to the murder of Trayvon Martin, Florida has developed a reputation in...www.nlg.org
At the moment I refer to the case of Marissa Alexander. In Marissa’s case the person that was abused is the person that was punished. Marissa, an African American mother of three from Jacksonville, had been married to a man that has a record of abusing her and other women. In 2010, after firing one warning shot in self-defense, Marissa was arrested, convicted of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and sentenced to 20 years in prison. No one had been injured by her warning shot. After an international advocacy campaign was launched, led primarily by the group Free Marissa Now, Marissa Alexander was granted a new trial. Bizarrely, Florida prosecutor Angela Corey threatened to put Marissa behind bars for 60 years if she was found guilty after her second trial. Under the helm of new counsel, Marissa was granted a new trial.
Marissa eventually pleaded guilty in November 2014, which she had refused to do during her first trial. From the time of her arrest to her release into house arrest, Marissa spent almost 1,100 days behind bars. She missed the first two years of her newborn’s life. She is under house arrest for the next two years. She now has a criminal record. Marissa was not only abused by her ex-husband; she was abused again by a racist and sexist system.
Wasn't Breonna Taylor's boyfriend black? Did he not shoot and hit a police officer breaking into his apt? His attorneys invoked stand your ground laws and immediately won. Any and all charges against Walker was dropped. If SYG laws don't apple to black people then why were they applied to him? Is he a special black we don't know about? This is where you and others get into trouble each time because you insert your own biases and emotions into arguments like this, without any objectivity at all.
As compared to a racist who is always yelling antisemite to everyone.
There is not ONE white Jew in Israel that is originally from what is Israel today.
Get your history straight dumbass...DNA testing says you have no idea what you're talking about.. "white Jews * Jews are Jews are Jews... Jew are from levant not from Africa clown.... If you didn't have race to talk about what you talk about
people with low IQs like you have tunnel vision ...all you think about is race....You and your other fat buddy here, I'm sure you're a fat ass as well .... you wouldn't be so fat if you were living in Africa... People like you are a detriment to the American society you hate the country they gave you the opportunity to acquire everything you have you're a pathetic human being
The only thing that's unequal is your subpar IQ
JoeB131
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You mean like whites can murder blacks like Zimmerman?
I believe Zimmerman was found not guilty, was he not?
The white Hispanic
.... you argue just for the sake of argument your core beliefs are? who knows but that's just what you do here just another clown 
JoeB131
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I've never had leather shrink on me.
The problem was Darden failed basic lawyering. You don't ask a leading question unless you know the answer.
Those photos didn't come to light until the civil trial.
Or he realized what a bad look it would be to prosecute OJ with an all white Santa Monica jury.
Or- wait for it - They just weren't used to a defendant with the ability to defend themselves. ANY criminal defendant, despite admonitions of "innocent until proven guilty," comes in with a huge disadvantage. The prosecutor has the entire Police Department at their back. Most defendants get a public defender who is overworked and the bottom of the food chain
"Hey, I know we are trying to put you son in jail for the rest of his life, but would you mind making a statement to undermine his defense by saying my boy was a good boy!"
JoeB131
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Exactly my point. Too bad it went over your head.
Zimmerman doesn't sound like a "Hispanic" name to me. It sounds German. Kind of like my name.
Oh, my God, I've really been Hispanic this whole time! Who knew
I remember when O.J. Simpson slaughtered two white people.
He got off.
Racism at its worst.
JoeB131
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You mean the cops who lied to a judge to get a warrant to execute a midnight raid on their house? Those cops?
A white person wouldn't have been subjected to a raid like that at all, and if he had, the NRA would have rallied behind him.
JoeB131
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I remember the LAPD lied about every aspect of that trial, which is why OJ got off.
Kind of hard to get a conviction when the gloves don't fit and the guy who said he found them (one at the scene and one outside OJ's house) straight up lies about using racial slurs and brags about planting evidence.
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