Vaccinated people spread covid

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We must be forced to get an experimental vaccine that was created in 9months. One which has 0% effectiveness (vaxxed spread it at the same rate of the unvaxxed).

Yet, you’re calling us Nazis and murderers for not getting it.

You DemonRats are sick, brainwashed, and retarded

The unvaccinated are getting infected worse, requiring hospitalization more and also dying more.

 

[Adrenochrome Junkie]

The unvaccinated are getting infected worse, requiring hospitalization more and also dying more.

That was science from 2 days ago. Yesterday’s science has changed. Remember, it’s not the experts’ change in opinion or them being wrong, it’s the science that is changing.

“vaccination alone will not stop spread of variants” - CNN

“Enough, it’s time to make vaccines mandatory” -CNN

We are living in an upside down world

 

[danielpalos]

That was science from 2 days ago. Yesterday’s science has changed. Remember, it’s not the experts’ change in opinion or them being wrong, it’s the science that is changing.

All current studies indicate that the unvaccinated are getting it worse than the vaccinated.

 

[zaangalewa]

>But on the other side has everyone else also the right not to be infected.

Um, yes, kind of. Vulnerable or scared people have the right to stay home

No no no no no no no - They have the right to be everywhere.

and be a hermit for as long as they wish, or go out wearing three masks if they wish.

Masks protect primaly others.

Some of us have functioning immune systems and happiness to pursue. You do you, and I'll do me. It's called freedom.

I got my second vaccination yesterday. I'm very happy about. But I will use masks as long as trustworthy experts think this is the best. And we have a lot of trustworthy experts here in Germany. That's for me not a political decision but a question of manners. If an old lady in a mall or anywhere else feels safe because I wear a mask then I will do so.

So go get your mRNA vaccine and put your silly ineffective mask on.

Masks are not ineffective - or did you never see doctors operating?

There, now you are protected. So quit worrying about what other people do. Mind your own business.

You don't live in a city, ..., no need for you to drive in a subway. You have a lot of place to avoid the contact to other people, isn't it?

 

[Adrenochrome Junkie]

All current studies indicate that the unvaccinated are getting it worse than the vaccinated.

And they could completely reverse tomorrow

 

[danielpalos]

And they could completely reverse tomorrow

Your disinformation is reverse today.

 

[Adrenochrome Junkie]

Your disinformation is reverse today.

And will flip a 180 tomorrow…

The disinformation I posted was CNN?

 

[danielpalos]

And will flip a 180 tomorrow…

The disinformation I posted was CNN?

"Hundreds of thousands of pregnant women worldwide have been vaccinated, safely and effectively protecting themselves against Covid and dramatically reducing their risk of serious illness or harm to their baby," Gill Walton, the chief executive of the Royal College of Midwives in the UK, said in a statement on Friday.

 

[Adrenochrome Junkie]

"Hundreds of thousands of pregnant women worldwide have been vaccinated, safely and effectively protecting themselves against Covid and dramatically reducing their risk of serious illness or harm to their baby," Gill Walton, the chief executive of the Royal College of Midwives in the UK, said in a statement on Friday.

Pregnant women warned not to take Moderna vaccine - unless they're high risk

The World Health Organization has told pregnant women to avoid the Moderna jab unless they are health workers or at high risk following a review of vaccine data

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Murder

My wife’s cousin had a baby 4 weeks ago. She was vaxxed a few months ago. The baby died suddenly 2 weeks ago. I have heard similar stories. Is it the vax?

I have yet to know anyone close to me to have succumbed to covid

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

No no no no no no no - They have the right to be everywhere.



Masks protect primaly others.



I got my second vaccination yesterday. I'm very happy about. But I will use masks as long as trustworthy experts think this is the best. And we have a lot of trustworthy experts here in Germany. That's for me not a political decision but a question of manners. If an old lady in a mall or anywhere else feels safe because I wear a mask then I will do so.



Masks are not ineffective - or did you never see doctors operating?



You don't live in a city, ..., no need for you to drive in a subway. You have a lot of place to avoid the contact to other people, isn't it?

>Masks are not ineffective - or did you never see doctors operating?

Apples and oranges. We're talking about COVID. Masks have not prevented people from getting COVID. Here is scientific proof, not silly anecdotes...


CDC completed an exhaustive study on the effectiveness of masks, since they now have plenty of data...

CDC admits masks and closing restaurants did not work. Effectiveness is less than 2% for both cases and death rates. Also, opening restaurants increased rates less than ~3%, and was not considered statistically significant.


March 5, 2021

During March 1–December 31, 2020, state-issued mask mandates applied in 2,313 (73.6%) of the 3,142 U.S. counties. Mask mandates were associated with a 0.5 percentage point decrease (p = 0.02) in daily COVID-19 case growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.1, 1.5, 1.7, and 1.8 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all) (Table 1) (Figure). Mask mandates were associated with a 0.7 percentage point decrease (p = 0.03) in daily COVID-19 death growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.0, 1.4, 1.6, and 1.9 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all). Daily case and death growth rates before implementation of mask mandates were not statistically different from the reference period.

During the study period, states allowed restaurants to reopen for on-premises dining in 3,076 (97.9%) U.S. counties. Changes in daily COVID-19 case and death growth rates were not statistically significant 1–20 and 21–40 days after restrictions were lifted. Allowing on-premises dining at restaurants was associated with 0.9 (p = 0.02), 1.2 (p<0.01), and 1.1 (p = 0.04) percentage point increases in the case growth rate 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after restrictions were lifted (Table 2) (Figure). Allowing on-premises dining at restaurants was associated with 2.2 and 3.0 percentage point increases in the death growth rate 61–80 and 81–100 days, respectively, after restrictions were lifted (p<0.01 for both). Daily death growth rates before restrictions were lifted were not statistically different from those during the reference period, whereas significant differences in daily case growth rates were observed 41–60 days before restrictions were lifted.

Association of State-Issued Mask Mandates and Allowing ...


>Masks protect primaly others.

LOL, that's hilarious. I wear a mask when I want to protect myself from airborne particulates.

According to your scientific deduction, masks only work in one direction, eh?

What you fail to realize is that the virus is so small, it rides on humid air and easily escapes masks. This is why virologists wear hermetically sealed suits, not masks.

 

[danielpalos]

Pregnant women warned not to take Moderna vaccine - unless they're high risk

The World Health Organization has told pregnant women to avoid the Moderna jab unless they are health workers or at high risk following a review of vaccine data

www.mirror.co.uk

Flip-Flop

As Moderna Launches COVID Vaccine Clinical Trials for Pregnant Women, Experts Warn of ‘Huge Risk’

The Defender is experiencing censorship on many social channels. Be sure to stay in touch with the news that matters by subscribing to our top news of the day. It's free. Moderna will begin studying its COVID vaccine in pregnant women, according to a posting on ClinicalTrials.gov. The...

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Murder

My wife’s cousin had a baby 4 weeks ago. She was vaxxed a few months ago. The baby died suddenly 2 weeks ago. I have heard similar stories. Is it the vax?

I have yet to know anyone close to me to have succumbed to covid

News from January or July 1st? Today, you have nothing but the reverse of the truth of the latest studies.

 

[danielpalos]

>Masks are not ineffective - or did you never see doctors operating?

Apples and oranges. We're talking about COVID. Masks have not prevented people from getting COVID. Here is scientific proof, not silly anecdotes...


CDC completed an exhaustive study on the effectiveness of masks, since they now have plenty of data...

CDC admits masks and closing restaurants did not work. Effectiveness is less than 2% for both cases and death rates. Also, opening restaurants increased rates less than ~3%, and was not considered statistically significant.


March 5, 2021

During March 1–December 31, 2020, state-issued mask mandates applied in 2,313 (73.6%) of the 3,142 U.S. counties. Mask mandates were associated with a 0.5 percentage point decrease (p = 0.02) in daily COVID-19 case growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.1, 1.5, 1.7, and 1.8 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all) (Table 1) (Figure). Mask mandates were associated with a 0.7 percentage point decrease (p = 0.03) in daily COVID-19 death growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.0, 1.4, 1.6, and 1.9 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all). Daily case and death growth rates before implementation of mask mandates were not statistically different from the reference period.

During the study period, states allowed restaurants to reopen for on-premises dining in 3,076 (97.9%) U.S. counties. Changes in daily COVID-19 case and death growth rates were not statistically significant 1–20 and 21–40 days after restrictions were lifted. Allowing on-premises dining at restaurants was associated with 0.9 (p = 0.02), 1.2 (p<0.01), and 1.1 (p = 0.04) percentage point increases in the case growth rate 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after restrictions were lifted (Table 2) (Figure). Allowing on-premises dining at restaurants was associated with 2.2 and 3.0 percentage point increases in the death growth rate 61–80 and 81–100 days, respectively, after restrictions were lifted (p<0.01 for both). Daily death growth rates before restrictions were lifted were not statistically different from those during the reference period, whereas significant differences in daily case growth rates were observed 41–60 days before restrictions were lifted.

Association of State-Issued Mask Mandates and Allowing ...


>Masks protect primaly others.

LOL, that's hilarious. I wear a mask when I want to protect myself from airborne particulates.

According to your scientific deduction, masks only work in one direction, eh?

What you fail to realize is that the virus is so small, it rides on humid air and easily escapes masks. This is why virologists wear hermetically sealed suits, not masks.

Something is better than nothing; only right-wingers prefer nothing while alleging they are for natural rights.

 

[Adrenochrome Junkie]

News from January or July 1st? Today, you have nothing but the reverse of the truth of the latest studies.

Studies today could show the vaccine is 99% safe.

A few months could be a…

Flip-Flop

Murder

Do studies changing after a few months now both you?

Do you understand why people will not take it and take it as a threat when mandated?

 

[danielpalos]

Studies today could show the vaccine is 99% safe.

A few months could be a…

Flip-Flop

Murder

Do studies changing after a few months now both you?

Do you understand why people will not take it and take it as a threat when mandated?

Our understanding is greater today and you are simply Wrong to ignore the latest studies when we already know the unvaccinated are requiring hospitalization and dying at a higher rate, Today.

 

[Adrenochrome Junkie]

Our understanding is greater today and you are simply Wrong to ignore the latest studies when we already know the unvaccinated are requiring hospitalization and dying at a higher rate, Today.

God help you

 

[danielpalos]

God help you

May He help us all.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Something is better than nothing; only right-wingers prefer nothing while alleging they are for natural rights.

I'm all for voluntary wearing of masks and vaccinations for people who want them. I need neither. I had COVID. So when you see a maskless person, mind your own business.

It is a natural human right to be able to make one's own health care decisions, with optional advice from one's doctor or others, as long as one is of sound mind and conscious.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

I wonder what June looks like.

PDF with all the CDC data:

https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/8a726408-07bd-46bd-a945-3af0ae2f3c37/note/57c98604-3b54-44f0-8b44-b148d8f75165.#page=1

Currently, about 35,000 vaccinated people per week get symptomatic COVID.

Also, prior infection protects one from Delta for over 180 days, Vaccine effectiveness starts waning at 12 weeks 84 days).

 

[danielpalos]

I'm all for voluntary wearing of masks and vaccinations for people who want them. I need neither. I had COVID. So when you see a maskless person, mind your own business.

It is a natural human right to be able to make one's own health care decisions, with optional advice from one's doctor or others, as long as one is of sound mind and conscious.

Even the vaccinated can still spread the pathogen. The unvaccinated can also spread it around and it is worse since they resume normal activities.

 

[danielpalos]

I wonder what June looks like.

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PDF with all the CDC data:

https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/8a726408-07bd-46bd-a945-3af0ae2f3c37/note/57c98604-3b54-44f0-8b44-b148d8f75165.#page=1

Currently, about 35,000 vaccinated people per week get symptomatic COVID.

Also, prior infection protects one from Delta for over 180 days, Vaccine effectiveness starts waning at 12 weeks 84 days).