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That guy in that video Zennie just so you know is very credible. He is on the inside in Oakland and works with city and county officials there. Mark Davis in fact once approached him as a matter of fact and asked if HE would design a stadium plan for the Raiders. Take a look at this short video here and you will see him talk about that and learn more about him.

here is the video where he talks about how he submitted a stadium plan to oakland.

cant find the one right now where he says mark davis approached him and asked him to submit one but i can later if you like?

 
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I was surprised that Westbrook signed a three year deal in OKC. Maybe he thinks OKC can rebuild a team.


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In the shadow of OakTown this is what everybody is bracing themselves for:



I'd hate to see them move but I am getting less and less hopeful. Oakland keeps screwing around and they seem to be fumbling their chances away. I am pretty tired of the city of Oakland screwing around with the Raiders.


I'd love to see them move. I go to Vegas; not Oakland.


well your not going to get your wish charlie.:biggrin:

In 95 after both the Rams and Raiders left LA for smaller markets and the Oilers then did the same thing one year later in 96 moving from Houston, a major media market to Nashville "which is as huge as leaving LA the second biggest media market for st louis,the 37th biggest media market."

the NFL got MUCH tougher on NFL relocation rules drawing up rules in 97 that teams cannot leave a major media market for a smaller market anymore because that hurt revenue sharing amongst the teams back then.

WHY do you suppose other than the Rams,no NFL team has relocated since then in 96? lol THAT is why. That is WHY the Raiders wont be moving to vegas either. They would be leaving the 6th biggest media market in the country -oakland,for the 48th biggest media market.Not happening.:biggrin:

But then again I expect YOU to think they will move there though since logic and common sense never registered with you that the Rams were coming back even though I spelled it out for you back then that even a CHILD could have seen the obvious.:lmao::haha:

so dream on in your fantasys the Raiders will move to vegas just like the fantasys you had the rams were still going to play in st louis this year.:rofl: I can see reality is something you dont like to deal with though.:D


I don't know the ins and outs. Apparently, the Raiders feel like they can move.


well THAT is correct. But remember,Mark Davis is an idiot.He does not have the smarts his dad did. If not for his dad,he would be a complete nobody.He just happened to be the son of a man that had power and influence in the NFL. Mark doesnt have that like his father did.

He is so stupid he thinks he will be able to move them with no problem not able to grasp it that NFL rules for relocation have changed 180 degrees since his father moved the Raiders to LA and Colts owner Robert Irsey did in the middle of the night in the 80's . Teams can no longer just pack up in the middle of the night and move as they please as Irsey did in Baltimore in 1984. You have to get 24 of the 31 NFL owners to approve the move.

Kroneke got the 24 votes because the NFL wanted a team in LA and saw that the Rams were the only fit that made sense but most importantly,they wanted an owner with deep pockets to be in LA and Kroneke has more money than Davis and Spanos COMBINED!!!! being the second richest owner after the seahawks paul allen.

Davis will never get that approval because of two things.
1-He wont get the 24 neccessary votes because most the owners hate the davis family,they are sore at his father suing the league to move them to LA.
2.they would be violating NFL rules to move from a major market to a much smaller market.Plus Davis is not rich like Kroneke.He wants Vegas to fund and build the stadium for him he is so poor.:biggrin: He cant privately finance it and build it on his own like Kroneke is.

He wants a handout from everybody problem he is so broke.lol Problem is Vegas has said they are not going to put in the public funds for a new stadium.wise move on their part.Let these greedy rich owners build their OWN freaking stadium like kroneke is doing.




Doesn't sound to me like they are going anywhere. I am not sure why they should either.
 
We'll see if you're right. I'd personally love to see the Raiders move to Vegas.

well you and that other poster need to get out the crying towel then because its no happening.:biggrin: This short nine minute video spells it out that they are staying in oakland.:biggrin:

In case you did not know,Ronnie Lott is a major shaker in this behind a plan to keep the Raiders in Oakland.He has some major heavy hitters of investors in Oakland who have major bucks and bankers behind it as well.

More importantly,Roger Goodell is in support of the Raiders staying in Oakland as well. Goddel has a lot of power in the NFL.He never came out and said he was behind keeping the Rams in st louis.true fact.:biggrin:



their not going to vegas,their not going to LA,their staying.




Makes sense. Yep, I'd say they are going nowhere. Maybe they are just happy where they are??? :dunno:
 
That guy in that video Zennie just so you know is very credible. He is on the inside in Oakland and works with city and county officials there. Mark Davis in fact once approached him as a matter of fact and asked if HE would design a stadium plan for the Raiders. Take a look at this short video here and you will see him talk about that and learn more about him.

here is the video where he talks about how he submitted a stadium plan to oakland.

cant find the one right now where he says mark davis approached him and asked him to submit one but i can later if you like?





Smart guy, and certainly seems to know what he's talking about.
 
I was surprised that Westbrook signed a three year deal in OKC. Maybe he thinks OKC can rebuild a team.


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That is surprising even if he does think they're that good. I guess he just figures the big market teams suck so badly and he has a place where he can ball hog the most.
 
I was surprised that Westbrook signed a three year deal in OKC. Maybe he thinks OKC can rebuild a team.


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That is surprising even if he does think they're that good. I guess he just figures the big market teams suck so badly and he has a place where he can ball hog the most.

I figured he and Love would go back to LA. I guess the Laker and the Clippers aren't a draw.
 
I was surprised that Westbrook signed a three year deal in OKC. Maybe he thinks OKC can rebuild a team.


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That is surprising even if he does think they're that good. I guess he just figures the big market teams suck so badly and he has a place where he can ball hog the most.

I figured he and Love would go back to LA. I guess the Laker and the Clippers aren't a draw.

He has a better ring chance in OKC.
 
I haven't been able to get excited about the Olympics in 20 years. It just doesn't mean much to me. I used to love them.


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I have heard that Serena is a man.:biggrin: wouldnt surprise me if it turned out to be true,she seems to be way too muscular for a woman.:lmao:

too bad high ranking celebritys are like politicians,get away with stuff we dont otherwise why not just come out and do an investigation and try to disprove it? :lol:

seems like a reasonable request to me. if this was some lady in college and there were these rumblings,they for sure would have an investigation into it.celebritys like her though they wont touch.
 


I have heard that Serena is a man.:biggrin: wouldnt surprise me if it turned out to be true,she seems to be way too muscular for a woman.:lmao:

too bad high ranking celebritys are like politicians,get away with stuff we dont otherwise why not just come out and do an investigation and try to disprove it? :lol:

seems like a reasonable request to me. if this was some lady in college and there were these rumblings,they for sure would have an investigation into it.celebritys like her though they wont touch.


They look like boys dressed as girls in their younger years. And I wouldn't put it past their hood rat dad.
 


I have heard that Serena is a man.:biggrin: wouldnt surprise me if it turned out to be true,she seems to be way too muscular for a woman.:lmao:

too bad high ranking celebritys are like politicians,get away with stuff we dont otherwise why not just come out and do an investigation and try to disprove it? :lol:

seems like a reasonable request to me. if this was some lady in college and there were these rumblings,they for sure would have an investigation into it.celebritys like her though they wont touch.

What a dork you be...Too muscular for a women.....Get real..
 
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I have heard that Serena is a man.:biggrin: wouldnt surprise me if it turned out to be true,she seems to be way too muscular for a woman.:lmao:

too bad high ranking celebritys are like politicians,get away with stuff we dont otherwise why not just come out and do an investigation and try to disprove it? :lol:

seems like a reasonable request to me. if this was some lady in college and there were these rumblings,they for sure would have an investigation into it.celebritys like her though they wont touch.

What a dork you be...Too muscular for a women.....Get real..


 


I have heard that Serena is a man.:biggrin: wouldnt surprise me if it turned out to be true,she seems to be way too muscular for a woman.:lmao:

too bad high ranking celebritys are like politicians,get away with stuff we dont otherwise why not just come out and do an investigation and try to disprove it? :lol:

seems like a reasonable request to me. if this was some lady in college and there were these rumblings,they for sure would have an investigation into it.celebritys like her though they wont touch.

What a dork you be...Too muscular for a women.....Get real..



Oh yeah, look at this sweet dude..
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I have heard that Serena is a man.:biggrin: wouldnt surprise me if it turned out to be true,she seems to be way too muscular for a woman.:lmao:

too bad high ranking celebritys are like politicians,get away with stuff we dont otherwise why not just come out and do an investigation and try to disprove it? :lol:

seems like a reasonable request to me. if this was some lady in college and there were these rumblings,they for sure would have an investigation into it.celebritys like her though they wont touch.

What a dork you be...Too muscular for a women.....Get real..



Good lord, you believe a sardonic comedian...
 


I have heard that Serena is a man.:biggrin: wouldnt surprise me if it turned out to be true,she seems to be way too muscular for a woman.:lmao:

too bad high ranking celebritys are like politicians,get away with stuff we dont otherwise why not just come out and do an investigation and try to disprove it? :lol:

seems like a reasonable request to me. if this was some lady in college and there were these rumblings,they for sure would have an investigation into it.celebritys like her though they wont touch.

What a dork you be...Too muscular for a women.....Get real..



Oh yeah, look at this sweet dude..
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