He lied under oath. He was pressured by the DOJ which was, and is, headed up by republicans.
Comey admitted on TV that he sent people into the Trump administration when it was 3 days old in order to sabotage it.
Can you tell me what Flynn supposedly lied about?
I didn't think so.
How long his shoe laces were perhaps? Maybe he said his car was red when the dealership lists the color as "crimson"
“In 2017 he pleaded guilty to making false statements to the
FBI in relation to the
Special Counsel's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 elections.”
Hillary lied under oath too.
**** this one-sided shit.
Amazing how she was never charged for your imaginary allegations
Comey said confidential mail was found.
She said it wasn't there.
**** off.
Not just low level bullshit confidential material that shouldn’t even be confidential, they found plenty of that. But they found the highest level confidentiality where you aren’t allowed to create it digitally, you’re only allowed to read a hardcopy in a special room surrounded by a faraday cage where all electronics are banned. She was told that it could not be sent in email, that she had to read it in the special room, berated the person who told her that and made them send it in an email anyway...to her special server that we know was hacked by the Chinese. Which is one of the reasons we made the law that you have to use a government email address for work. Another reason is so you can’t destroy the evidence, which she also did. Compare the actual crime Hillary committed to the crimes they have to keep doing mental gymnastics to say that trump committed. It’s bonkers.
None of this is true.
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From the IG himself. SAP, Special Access Privilege, is the term for the room I was talking about. Post proof before you make dumbass claims. Even if this wasn’t true, there’s minimum mandatory sentencing for even the lowest level classification. It was a crime to use her service for government work in the first place. She initially denied she did that, said it was personal stuff only. That was a lie. It morphed into she never used it for classified emails. That was a lie. She deleted 33,000 that she said were personal before she turned them over, which the FBI would never allow anyone else to do EVER, which also turned out to be a lie. I know the left has a magical ability to re-write history in their minds and block out whats reality like they’re in some sort of Scientology cult...but the real history is out there.
I'm aware that some of the information on her server was deemed SAP. However, that was not copied from any files, but a reference was made to this information. The part of your claim which was bullshit was her being told specific information could not be put in an email and berating people for not doing so. The other bullshit claim is that it was hacked by the Chinese, no such information exists. Another bullshit claim is that there is a law that you must use government email for work. Another bullshit claim is that she destroyed evidence.
She never claimed her server was only for personal use. She didn't delete 33,000 emails that were personal before she turned them over.
You've really jumbled up details.
The 33,000 emails were deleted after her lawyer sorted out and submitted the work related ones. It is not illegal to use personal email for government business. No then, not now. Government employees, up to and including Trump's own family continue to do so to this day. There was a reference of her emails being forwarded to a "Chinese" IP, a report which was based on misunderstanding and poor information. Emails were forwarded as part of a server migration.
Oh you have to be ******* kidding me. A “misunderstanding” or “glitch” caused Hillary’s emails to be forwarded to servers to a Chinese company with Chinese hardware and software that’s banned for use by government employees because we already know they are filled with spyware. All because that spokesperson of that state run company says “don’t worry, we no spy”. Her server was not approved, and she lied about classified emails being on there, as well as lied about classified emails being in the 33,000 deleted ones. The Olympic level of mental gymnastics here a astounding. Don’t believe the evidence in front of your eyes...just listen to how Hillary’s lawyers say it went down. Name another instance where the FBI subpoenaed evidence, let the party in questions lawyers comb over it and select what evidence to send over? FBI are the only ones who determine what is pertinent and what isn’t in every single case. This was the one case where they let the guilty party’s lawyers determine that, and then delete everything else. Why is that?
No glitch caused the emails to be forwarded because they weren’t forwarded to a Chinese company. This was a false report put out by shoddy right wing media and shot down by Republicans.
A long-running Republican-led investigation into the handling of classified information on Hillary Clinton's private email server did not find any evidence that China had successfully hacked the former secretary of state, confirming the findings of the FBI, according to a memo released by two...
www.cnn.com
The FBI never subpoenaed Clinton for emails. At the time Clinton told her staff to delete those emails, no one else did either.
Anytime anyone is subpoenaed, their lawyers determine what is relevant. That’s how subpoenas work.
Republicans on key congressional committees say they have uncovered new irregularities and contradictions inside the FBI’s probe of Hillary Clinton’s email server.For the first time, investigators …
thehill.com
yet we have all these one-offs in handling this "one" case you say isn't that important.
A timeline of Hillary Clinton's email scandal.
www.cnn.com
2014
2014 -- The State Department requests that all former secretaries of state "submit any records in their possession for proper preservation."
Also in 2014, at the request of the State Department, Clinton hands over 55,000 pages — approximately 30,000 emails. Left out were emails deemed by her and her staff to be "personal."
why does SHE get to decide what is PERSONAL?
and i'm not going to play one sided word games. the state dept asked for them and her "delete" activities came after this point.
Everyone in government decides what is and isn’t personal and what needs to be submitted. Do you think the government employs people to do this for every employee? Obviously not. This is pretty standard.
Virtually all people in government use a personal email, for personal things, and a work email for work things....like most people do. It’s a lot easier to keep the spam out of your work email.
He lied under oath. He was pressured by the DOJ which was, and is, headed up by republicans.
Comey admitted on TV that he sent people into the Trump administration when it was 3 days old in order to sabotage it.
Can you tell me what Flynn supposedly lied about?
I didn't think so.
How long his shoe laces were perhaps? Maybe he said his car was red when the dealership lists the color as "crimson"
“In 2017 he pleaded guilty to making false statements to the
FBI in relation to the
Special Counsel's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 elections.”
Hillary lied under oath too.
**** this one-sided shit.
Amazing how she was never charged for your imaginary allegations
Comey said confidential mail was found.
She said it wasn't there.
**** off.
Not just low level bullshit confidential material that shouldn’t even be confidential, they found plenty of that. But they found the highest level confidentiality where you aren’t allowed to create it digitally, you’re only allowed to read a hardcopy in a special room surrounded by a faraday cage where all electronics are banned. She was told that it could not be sent in email, that she had to read it in the special room, berated the person who told her that and made them send it in an email anyway...to her special server that we know was hacked by the Chinese. Which is one of the reasons we made the law that you have to use a government email address for work. Another reason is so you can’t destroy the evidence, which she also did. Compare the actual crime Hillary committed to the crimes they have to keep doing mental gymnastics to say that trump committed. It’s bonkers.
None of this is true.
View attachment 328727
View attachment 328728
From the IG himself. SAP, Special Access Privilege, is the term for the room I was talking about. Post proof before you make dumbass claims. Even if this wasn’t true, there’s minimum mandatory sentencing for even the lowest level classification. It was a crime to use her service for government work in the first place. She initially denied she did that, said it was personal stuff only. That was a lie. It morphed into she never used it for classified emails. That was a lie. She deleted 33,000 that she said were personal before she turned them over, which the FBI would never allow anyone else to do EVER, which also turned out to be a lie. I know the left has a magical ability to re-write history in their minds and block out whats reality like they’re in some sort of Scientology cult...but the real history is out there.
I'm aware that some of the information on her server was deemed SAP. However, that was not copied from any files, but a reference was made to this information. The part of your claim which was bullshit was her being told specific information could not be put in an email and berating people for not doing so. The other bullshit claim is that it was hacked by the Chinese, no such information exists. Another bullshit claim is that there is a law that you must use government email for work. Another bullshit claim is that she destroyed evidence.
She never claimed her server was only for personal use. She didn't delete 33,000 emails that were personal before she turned them over.
You've really jumbled up details.
The 33,000 emails were deleted after her lawyer sorted out and submitted the work related ones. It is not illegal to use personal email for government business. No then, not now. Government employees, up to and including Trump's own family continue to do so to this day. There was a reference of her emails being forwarded to a "Chinese" IP, a report which was based on misunderstanding and poor information. Emails were forwarded as part of a server migration.
Oh you have to be ******* kidding me. A “misunderstanding” or “glitch” caused Hillary’s emails to be forwarded to servers to a Chinese company with Chinese hardware and software that’s banned for use by government employees because we already know they are filled with spyware. All because that spokesperson of that state run company says “don’t worry, we no spy”. Her server was not approved, and she lied about classified emails being on there, as well as lied about classified emails being in the 33,000 deleted ones. The Olympic level of mental gymnastics here a astounding. Don’t believe the evidence in front of your eyes...just listen to how Hillary’s lawyers say it went down. Name another instance where the FBI subpoenaed evidence, let the party in questions lawyers comb over it and select what evidence to send over? FBI are the only ones who determine what is pertinent and what isn’t in every single case. This was the one case where they let the guilty party’s lawyers determine that, and then delete everything else. Why is that?
No glitch caused the emails to be forwarded because they weren’t forwarded to a Chinese company. This was a false report put out by shoddy right wing media and shot down by Republicans.
A long-running Republican-led investigation into the handling of classified information on Hillary Clinton's private email server did not find any evidence that China had successfully hacked the former secretary of state, confirming the findings of the FBI, according to a memo released by two...
www.cnn.com
The FBI never subpoenaed Clinton for emails. At the time Clinton told her staff to delete those emails, no one else did either.
Anytime anyone is subpoenaed, their lawyers determine what is relevant. That’s how subpoenas work.
Republicans on key congressional committees say they have uncovered new irregularities and contradictions inside the FBI’s probe of Hillary Clinton’s email server.For the first time, investigators …
thehill.com
yet we have all these one-offs in handling this "one" case you say isn't that important.
A timeline of Hillary Clinton's email scandal.
www.cnn.com
2014
2014 -- The State Department requests that all former secretaries of state "submit any records in their possession for proper preservation."
Also in 2014, at the request of the State Department, Clinton hands over 55,000 pages — approximately 30,000 emails. Left out were emails deemed by her and her staff to be "personal."
why does SHE get to decide what is PERSONAL?
and i'm not going to play one sided word games. the state dept asked for them and her "delete" activities came after this point.
Everyone in government decides what is and isn’t personal and what needs to be submitted. Do you think the government employs people to do this for every employee? Obviously not. This is pretty standard.
Virtually all people in government use a personal email, for personal things, and a work email for work things....like most people do. It’s a lot easier to keep the spam out of your work email.
Maybe. I won’t comment on how many do and dont do so. The regulations predate email. In the old days, each employee would determine what papers needed to be preserved. Same rules apply here.
same rules say to send all email to a server for archiving.
Fair enough. If you want to accuse her of being in violation of the rules, you'll have no argument for me. But the rules and laws are not the same thing.
yea, but obama sure was creating rules/laws shortly after this first started blowing up.
initially i don't begrudge hillary for pushing the boundaries. she has done that her entire life and if they boundaries don't say DO NOT DO THIS, then it's up to "being pushed". if obama had to create a rule as we enter this phase of our "lives" thats fine. i see no issue with him defining it also.
it's all this "gray area" in the middle where it played out live i have questions with.
had hillary sent all work e-mail to a work address, i have zero problem with her doing whatever the hell she wants to do with her server. e-mail backed up and stored outside of her control. problem solved.
but she didn't do that and as soon as people started going "uh...we need to see what's on there" *things* started to happen. the committee asked for all correspondence and she stalled and sent eventually 300 printed copies.
printed copies would *not* contain e-mail headers to show who sent what where. so she can bring up something, make changes, print. so to me printed copies don't mean much either, but it's a start. but unfortunately from my PoV, it's a start to stalling.
during this "gray area" time her consultants were in reddit asking how to change e-mail header info. there is simply no good reason to do this unless you're hiding it. header meta info is nothing more than how it was routed. who from, who to, and what path it took, subject line.
yet this needed to be altered.
when that was a "can't do it" (and you can't) then it was "how do i permanently delete data from a drive for a very well known person"?
during this time many e-mails were deleted she called yoga and private. however, she got to pick what was deleted *after* being told the committee needed to see them.
in my mind this is up there with someone downloading child porn who gets a tip he will need to turn his computer over, so he deletes it all and goes "here, i'm innocent".
if my brother tried that i would cry foul. i would hope we all would. but hillary does it, she's given the benefit of doubt by "her" side, never forgiven by the "other" side.
so playing word games to me simply don't matter. and we've also gone so far off flynn it's hopeless but it happens.
