US Soldier given 100 years in prison

[Gunny]

US soldier sentenced over Iraq rape

Two of the five soldiers charged in the rape and murders have been sentenced so far [AFP]
A military court has sentenced a US soldier to 27 months in prison as an accessory to the rape and murder of a 14-year-old girl in Iraq and the killing of her family.

The court concluded on Wednesday that Private Bryan Howard overheard his friends planning the crime and lied to protect them, the Houston Chronicle newspaper reported.
Howard had earlier pleaded guilty to the accessory charge and conspiracy to obstruct justice, and was sentenced at Fort Campbell, Kentucky.

Murder and rape charges against Howard were dropped "based on his limited role in the crimes", the military said.
Five soldiers with the 101st Airborne Division have been charged in the rape and killing of Abeer Qassim al-Janabi in Mahmudiyah, south of Baghdad. Her mother, father and six-year-old sister were also shot dead.

Howard told the court that he was left behind at a checkpoint while four other soldiers went to rape the girl, and that he had overheard the four planning the attack.

"I was slowly starting to believe what they had done, that they had committed the crimes, the rape and the murder," Howard said.

He reportedly said in a statement to the court: "If I could go back, I would not have let it happen in the first place. I definitely would have told somebody."

The Mahmudiya case was one of several killings and abuses involving US soldiers that prompted Iraqi officials to call for a review of foreign troops' immunity from prosecution in Iraq.

Two soldiers had previously pleaded guilty to the rape and murders in Mahmudiyah.

Last month Sergeant Paul Cortez was sentenced to 100 years in prison for his part in the rape and murders, while specialist James Barker was sentenced to 90 years in prison last November.

The alleged ringleader, Steve Green, was earlier discharged from the army and is to be tried in a federal court.


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/355112A3-5132-4A5D-A2FD-067AD7200CAB.htm

Criminals SHOULD be in prison. Rapists should be castrated, and murderers should be executed. Punishment should befit the crime.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Not if you are muslim or Iraqi.

As I've said, it's a stretch. Do I think others jump to that conclusion incorrectly? Sure. Doesn't make them any less incorrect.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Don't blame the goat herder who couldn't give a fuck about the Taleban, Saddam or any other SOB, and whose wife/mother/sister/brother/daughter/son was killed by friendly fire or collateral damage, and then turning into a suicide bomber or insurgent attacking US personal...

Actually I do blame him. I pity him as well. It's unfortunate he lacks the ability to see that the real reason his family/friends are dead is because his countrymen are pussies and hide amongst the "couldn't give a fuck" populations.

 

[Gunny]

Not that I am bothered but, wasn't Saddam Hussein tried and hanged for 'authorising' atrocities much like the one comitted by US troops who only seem to be accountable to and for themselves.Some might argue double standards.

Huh?

Saddam Hussein was tried, convicted and executed by the Government of Iraq. That's the authority he fell under.

The soldiers were tried and convicted by courts-martial, the as they fall under US military authority.

How is that being accountable only to themselves?

 

[pegwinn]

Not that I am bothered but, wasn't Saddam Hussein tried and hanged for 'authorising' atrocities much like the one comitted by US troops who only seem to be accountable to and for themselves.Some might argue double standards.

Saddam personally ordered the reprisals against civilians using WMD among other things. Additionally he cultivated a sadistic attitude among his sons. Additionally he condoned his sons atrocities against folks they didn't like. IMHO he got off easy.

Still, thousands upon thousands have died. One thinks if you could target a certain armoured carrier precisely you could do the same with AQ operativea and/or insurgents...

I do agree there is a difference between Sadman and Bush/Blair though (in their motives). Of course, this means fuck-all to those who have lost family members to "friendly fire" and have become "collatoral damage"..

You are confusing precision munitions with accurate intelligence and specified targeting data. IF we know down to the camelhair where a whacko is, we can get him done. But if we only have a general location.........

Don't blame the US for those we are at war with being pussies and hiding amongst civilians.

Absolutely true. IF you enemies hide amongst the women and children they share the blame for innocent deaths. Such cowardice needs to be killed so they become allah's problem instead of mine. I'd pay good money if the women and kids actually fought back and refused to allow the cowards to set up shop in thier neighborhood, school, hospital, etc.

Criminals SHOULD be in prison. Rapists should be castrated, and murderers should be executed. Punishment should befit the crime.

Fuckin A. This is one case where I wish the .mil prisons were not safer for inmates than say....... Attica.

 

[Gunny]

Saddam personally ordered the reprisals against civilians using WMD among other things. Additionally he cultivated a sadistic attitude among his sons. Additionally he condoned his sons atrocities against folks they didn't like. IMHO he got off easy.



You are confusing precision munitions with accurate intelligence and specified targeting data. IF we know down to the camelhair where a whacko is, we can get him done. But if we only have a general location.........



Absolutely true. IF you enemies hide amongst the women and children they share the blame for innocent deaths. Such cowardice needs to be killed so they become allah's problem instead of mine. I'd pay good money if the women and kids actually fought back and refused to allow the cowards to set up shop in thier neighborhood, school, hospital, etc.



Fuckin A. This is one case where I wish the .mil prisons were not safer for inmates than say....... Attica.

These criminals abused the power they were given to combat an enemy to commit crimes. They have brought discredit on themselves, and tarnished the US armed forces, and provided fuel for the armed forces hater's mouthes.

Any punishment that does not include some sort of medieval torture device is too good for them.

 

[jillian]

I pledge no allegiance, nigga fuck the president's speeches
I'm baptized by America and covered in leeches
The dirty water that bleaches your soul and your facial features
Drownin' you in propaganda that they spit through the speakers
And if you speak about the evil that the government does
The Patriot Act'll track you to the type of your blood
They try to frame you, and say you was tryna sell drugs
And throw a federal indictment on niggaz to show you love
This shit is run by fake Christians, fake politicians
Look at they mansions, then look at the conditions you live in
All they talk about is terrorism on television
They tell you to listen, but they don't really tell you they mission
They funded Al-Qaeda, and now they blame the Muslim religion
Even though Bin Laden, was a CIA tactician
They gave him billions of dollars, and they funded his purpose
Fahrenheit 9/11, that's just scratchin' the surface

They say the rebels in Iraq still fight for Saddam
But that's bullshit, I'll show you why it's totally wrong
Cuz if another country invaded the hood tonight
It'd be warfare through Harlem, and Washington Heights
I wouldn't be fightin' for Bush or White America's dream
I'd be fightin' for my people's survival and self-esteem
I wouldn't fight for racist churches from the south, my nigga
I'd be fightin' to keep the occupation out, my nigga
You ever clock someone who talk shit, or look at you wrong?
Imagine if they shot at you, and was rapin' your moms
And of course Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons
We sold him that shit, after Ronald Reagan's election
Mercenary contractors fightin' a new era
Corporate military bankin' off the war on terror
They controllin' the ghetto, with the failed attack
Trying to distract the fact that they engineerin' the crack

So I'm strapped like Lee Malvo holdin' a sniper rifle
These bullets'll touch your kids, and I don't mean like Michael
Your body be sent to the morgue, stripped down and recycled
I fire on house niggaz that support you and like you
Cuz innocent people get murdered in the struggle daily
And poor people never get shit and struggle daily
This ain't no alien conspiracy theory, this shit is real
Written on the dollar underneath the Masonic seal

(I don't rap for dead presidents
I'd rather see the president dead
It's never been said but I set precedents)--[Eminem

That isn't Eminem. And if you're going to use someone else's words, you should give proper attribution or it's a violation of copyright laws.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=immortal+technique&page=2

http://tupacworld.canalblog.com/archives/du_rap/index.html

Just sayin'

 

[roomy]

Huh?

Saddam Hussein was tried, convicted and executed by the Government of Iraq. That's the authority he fell under.

The soldiers were tried and convicted by courts-martial, the as they fall under US military authority.

How is that being accountable only to themselves?

Their superior officers and ultimately their head of state certainly weren't responsible, were they? Can you see the difference?

 

[eots]

That isn't Eminem. And if you're going to use someone else's words, you should give proper attribution or it's a violation of copyright laws.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=immortal+technique&page=2

http://tupacworld.canalblog.com/archives/du_rap/index.html

Just sayin'

im sure the dead prez wont sue me for copywrite
and your wrong it was a colaboration with eninem he also raps the chours
and the dead presidents line was taken from a eminem song

 

[eots]

That isn't Eminem. And if you're going to use someone else's words, you should give proper attribution or it's a violation of copyright laws.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=immortal+technique&page=2

http://tupacworld.canalblog.com/archives/du_rap/index.html

Just sayin'

im sure immortal technique and the dead prez wont sue me for copywrite
and your wrong it was a colaboration with eninem he also raps the chours
and the dead presidents line was taken from a eminem song

 

[eots]

I see the world for what it is, beyond the white and the black
The way the government downplays historical facts
'Cuz the United States sponsored the rise of the 3rd Reich
Just like the CIA trained terrorists to the fight
Build bombs and sneak box cutters onto a flight
When I was a child, the Devil himself bought me a mic
But I refused the offer, 'cuz God sent me to strike
With skills unused like fallopian tubes on a dyke
My words'll expose George Bush and Bin Laden
As two separate parts of the same seven headed dragon
And you can't fathom the truth, so you don't hear me
You think illuminati's just a fuckin conspiracy theory?
That's why Conservative racists are all runnin' shit
And your phone is tapped by the Federal Government
So I'm jammin' frequencies in ya brain when you speak to me
Technique will rip a rapper to pieces indecently
Pack weapons illegally, because I'm never hesitant
Sniper scoping a commission controllin the president


Father, forgive them, for they don't know right from wrong
The truth will set you free, written down in this song
And the song has the Cause of Death written in code
The Word of God brought to life, that'll save ya soul..


I hacked the Pentagon for self-incriminating evidence
Of Republican manufactured white powder pestilence
Marines Corps. flat (?) vest, with the guns and ammo
Spittin' bars like a demon stuck inside a piano
Turn a Sambo into a soldier with just one line
Now here's the truth about the system that'll fuck up your mind
They gave Al Queda 6 billion dollars in 1989 to 1992
And now the last chapters of Revelations are coming true
And I know a lot of people find it hard to swallow this
Because subliminal bigotry makes you hate my politics
But you act like America wouldn't destroy two buildings
In a country that was sponsoring bombs dropped on our children
I was watching the Towers, and though I wasn't the closest
I saw them crumble to the Earth like they was full of explosives
And they thought nobody noticed the news report that they did
About the bombs planted on the George Washington bridge
Four Non-Arabs arrested during the emergency
And then it disappeared from the news permanently
They dubbed a tape of Osama, and they said it was proof
"Jealous of our freedom," I can't believe you bought that excuse
Rockin a motherfucking flag don't make you a hero
Word to Ground Zero
The Devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th
The New World Order was born on September 11

And just so Conservatives don't take it to heart
I don't think Bush did it, 'cuz he isn't that smart
He's just a stupid puppet taking orders on his cell phone
From the same people that sabotaged Senator Wellstone
The military industry got it poppin' and lockin'
Looking for a way to justify the Wolfowitz Doctrine
And as a matter of fact, Rumsfeld, now that I think back
Without 9/11, you couldn't have a war in Iraq
Or a Defense budget of world conquest proportions
Kill freedom of speech and revoke the right to abortions
Tax cut extortion, a blessing to the wealthy and wicked
But you still have to answer to the Armageddon you scripted
And Dick Cheney, you fuckin leech, tell them your plans
About building your pipelines through Afghanistan
And how Israeli troops trained the Taliban in Pakistan
You might have some house niggaz fooled, but I understand
Colonialism is sponsored by corporations
That's why Halliburton gets paid to rebuild nations
Tell me the truth, I don't scare into paralysis
I know the CIA saw Bin Laden on dialysis
In '98 when he was Top Ten for the FBI
Government ties is really why the Government lies
Read it yourself instead of asking the Government why
'Cuz then the Cause of Death will cause the propaganda to die..

 

[jillian]

im sure immortal technique and the dead prez wont sue me for copywrite
and your wrong it was a colaboration with eninem he also raps the chours
and the dead presidents line was taken from a eminem song

Eminem participating in the chorus doesn't make it an Eminem song. Also, if you click on the link, it was Immortal Technique and Mos Def, not Em. I could be wrong, but I think the only rap Em adds to right now is Akon's Smack Dat.

If you look at the forum rules, you still need to link material that isn't yours. I'm not quite sure why that would trouble you. I figure if someone writes words that resonate for you, you should want to attribute them properly, unless, of course, you want people to think the words are yours.

Your last one was Immortal Technique's Cause of Death, btw....

 

[Dr Grump]

Actually I do blame him. I pity him as well. It's unfortunate he lacks the ability to see that the real reason his family/friends are dead is because his countrymen are pussies and hide amongst the "couldn't give a fuck" populations.

Why do you blame him? Don't for a minute think that a shi'ite sees a sunni as his countryman. I'm telling you right now - I'm some goat herder in the middle of fucking nowhere and somebody bombs my house and kills my two boys? I don't give a fuck. I have nothing to live for. I'm going after the guys who killed my kids. Period.

 

[Gunny]

Why do you blame him? Don't for a minute think that a shi'ite sees a sunni as his countryman. I'm telling you right now - I'm some goat herder in the middle of fucking nowhere and somebody bombs my house and kills my two boys? I don't give a fuck. I have nothing to live for. I'm going after the guys who killed my kids. Period.

Actually, the tribal feudalism is a BIG part of the problem, and for all intents and purposes, the tribe IS their country. And anyone from another tribe encroaching is an enemy, be it us, the Shia, or Jesus Christ.

 

[jillian]

Actually, the tribal feudalism is a BIG part of the problem, and for all intents and purposes, the tribe IS their country. And anyone from another tribe encroaching is an enemy, be it us, the Shia, or Jesus Christ.

Iraq was an artificially drawn country, anyway. The place should be divided into three, with each getting a cut of the oil wealth.

 

[roomy]

Actually, the tribal feudalism is a BIG part of the problem, and for all intents and purposes, the tribe IS their country. And anyone from another tribe encroaching is an enemy, be it us, the Shia, or Jesus Christ.

So you can understand the paradox?

 

[Gunny]

Iraq was an artificially drawn country, anyway. The place should be divided into three, with each getting a cut of the oil wealth.

That would seem the easiest solution, but I think one would not tolerate the existence of the others.

 

[Gunny]

So you can understand the paradox?

I wrote it, didn't I?

 

[roomy]

I wrote it, didn't I?

I do that sometimes and nobody gets it, fuck off.

 

[Gunny]

I do that sometimes and nobody gets it, fuck off.

Unlike the others, I neither underestimate you, nor relegate you to the troll heap. The second I do, it'll bite me in the ass.