US Seeks To Imprison Single Mother

[DiamondDave]

Please stop broadcasting that you are a vet.. as your lack of knowledge about anything military shows it to be a lie

You comment was a snide pile on...

Yes.. because passing the ASVAB means someone is unqualified to do work anywhere else

What a buffoon

Errrrr....not a good idea to reference the ASVAB. It's not exactly Ivy Prep material. As you so graciously have pointed out, I'm a moron but even i scored so high, along with a few others, we were given further tests and the offer to change our MOS before leaving the MEPS station.

My comments about the ASVAB as a standard for entry have been noted and are not incorrect... but nice try

 

[CurveLight]

Fort Stewart spokesman Kevin Larson said Hutchinson's unit had known for months about its pending deployment and that it wasn't until the last minute that Hutchinson notified the Army of her child-care woes.

Like all soldiers who face similar circumstances, Hutchinson received a 30-day extension back in August and September, Larson said.

That's "plenty of time," he said, "to work out another care plan."

Mom chooses son over service - CNN.com

Wow. You absolutely are addicted to dishonesty aren't you? Please. Please stop broadcasting you're a Vet. You have no idea how much damage it does to the image of all Vets when someone like you continually actively engages in dishonesty.

I mean, why try to selectively quote that part from the article when I've already shown she sent her son away a month before the deployment date? I've already shown she didn't know her care plan fell through until only two weeks before the deployment date? All you are doing is insulting people who are reading this thread. You're hoping they are as dumb as you are dishonest but I hate to break it to ya, nobody is falling for your garbage. Now do the only thing you know how to do and drop some more neat phrases using the rep button because you sure as hell aren't man enough to be honest.

 

[DiamondDave]

Fort Stewart spokesman Kevin Larson said Hutchinson's unit had known for months about its pending deployment and that it wasn't until the last minute that Hutchinson notified the Army of her child-care woes.

Like all soldiers who face similar circumstances, Hutchinson received a 30-day extension back in August and September, Larson said.

That's "plenty of time," he said, "to work out another care plan."

Mom chooses son over service - CNN.com

Wow. You absolutely are addicted to dishonesty aren't you? Please. Please stop broadcasting you're a Vet. You have no idea how much damage it does to the image of all Vets when someone like you continually actively engages in dishonesty.

I mean, why try to selectively quote that part from the article when I've already shown she sent her son away a month before the deployment date? I've already shown she didn't know her care plan fell through until only two weeks before the deployment date? All you are doing is insulting people who are reading this thread. You're hoping they are as dumb as you are dishonest but I hate to break it to ya, nobody is falling for your garbage. Now do the only thing you know how to do and drop some more neat phrases using the rep button because you sure as hell aren't man enough to be honest.

Again.. you dishonest ****..

She had inadequate plans.... she was given an extension to fix them... her subsequent plans with her mother mysteriously fell thru a MONTH before her deployment (which she KNEW was coming)... against regulations she did not have a viable secondary or backup plan.... she waited until the last minute to notify the military... she violated orders.. she refused deployment.. she was in violation of UCMJ

Those are facts, asshole

As asked before.. is the military supposed to give her extension after extension for her own violations and **** ups??? She agreed to the regulations... she was given every chance to make it right including an extension... SHE had the responsibility, NOT the military... she deserves whatever punishment that can be afforded to her

You are indeed one disingenuous asshole with a definite agenda against the military and a definite propensity to lie about your military knowledge

 

[CurveLight]

Fort Stewart spokesman Kevin Larson said Hutchinson's unit had known for months about its pending deployment and that it wasn't until the last minute that Hutchinson notified the Army of her child-care woes.

Like all soldiers who face similar circumstances, Hutchinson received a 30-day extension back in August and September, Larson said.

That's "plenty of time," he said, "to work out another care plan."

Mom chooses son over service - CNN.com

Wow. You absolutely are addicted to dishonesty aren't you? Please. Please stop broadcasting you're a Vet. You have no idea how much damage it does to the image of all Vets when someone like you continually actively engages in dishonesty.

I mean, why try to selectively quote that part from the article when I've already shown she sent her son away a month before the deployment date? I've already shown she didn't know her care plan fell through until only two weeks before the deployment date? All you are doing is insulting people who are reading this thread. You're hoping they are as dumb as you are dishonest but I hate to break it to ya, nobody is falling for your garbage. Now do the only thing you know how to do and drop some more neat phrases using the rep button because you sure as hell aren't man enough to be honest.

Again.. you dishonest ****..

She had inadequate plans.... she was given an extension to fix them... her subsequent plans with her mother mysteriously fell thru a MONTH before her deployment (which she KNEW was coming)... against regulations she did not have a viable secondary or backup plan.... she waited until the last minute to notify the military... she violated orders.. she refused deployment.. she was in violation of UCMJ

Those are facts, asshole

As asked before.. is the military supposed to give her extension after extension for her own violations and **** ups??? She agreed to the regulations... she was given every chance to make it right including an extension... SHE had the responsibility, NOT the military... she deserves whatever punishment that can be afforded to her

You are indeed one disingenuous asshole with a definite agenda against the military and a definite propensity to lie about your military knowledge

Plans fell through a month before deployment? Holy shit! When you get busted lying you just lie some more.

 

[DiamondDave]

Wow. You absolutely are addicted to dishonesty aren't you? Please. Please stop broadcasting you're a Vet. You have no idea how much damage it does to the image of all Vets when someone like you continually actively engages in dishonesty.

I mean, why try to selectively quote that part from the article when I've already shown she sent her son away a month before the deployment date? I've already shown she didn't know her care plan fell through until only two weeks before the deployment date? All you are doing is insulting people who are reading this thread. You're hoping they are as dumb as you are dishonest but I hate to break it to ya, nobody is falling for your garbage. Now do the only thing you know how to do and drop some more neat phrases using the rep button because you sure as hell aren't man enough to be honest.

Again.. you dishonest ****..

She had inadequate plans.... she was given an extension to fix them... her subsequent plans with her mother mysteriously fell thru a MONTH before her deployment (which she KNEW was coming)... against regulations she did not have a viable secondary or backup plan.... she waited until the last minute to notify the military... she violated orders.. she refused deployment.. she was in violation of UCMJ

Those are facts, asshole

As asked before.. is the military supposed to give her extension after extension for her own violations and **** ups??? She agreed to the regulations... she was given every chance to make it right including an extension... SHE had the responsibility, NOT the military... she deserves whatever punishment that can be afforded to her

You are indeed one disingenuous asshole with a definite agenda against the military and a definite propensity to lie about your military knowledge

Plans fell through a month before deployment? Holy shit! When you get busted lying you just lie some more.

Hutchinson had agreed to such a plan and her mother, Angelique Hughes, took in Kamani in a month before Hutchinson's deployment date.


But after a week with the infant, Hughes, who cares for ailing relatives and runs a day-care out of her home, said she felt so overwhelmed that she backed out.

Yes.. a month before deployment... 31 days or so in a month.. .minus a week.. still 24 days or basically a month...

NOT TO MENTION THAT SHE KNEW OF THE DEPLOYMENT FOR MONTHS... and had ALREADY been informed to get her preparations in order.. that does include backup plans... she had previously been given an extension to ensure her plans were viable and in order, which is something most soldiers do not get

And again... it is HER responsibility, not the military's.... it is also her duty and responsibility to deploy and follow orders as given

Again it will be asked... is she to get extension after extension for her own ****-ups and non-compliance with regulations and orders??

Again... your lack of knowledge of military life shows.. and your dishonesty is verging on troll-like behavior

 

[CurveLight]

Again.. you dishonest ****..

She had inadequate plans.... she was given an extension to fix them... her subsequent plans with her mother mysteriously fell thru a MONTH before her deployment (which she KNEW was coming)... against regulations she did not have a viable secondary or backup plan.... she waited until the last minute to notify the military... she violated orders.. she refused deployment.. she was in violation of UCMJ

Those are facts, asshole

As asked before.. is the military supposed to give her extension after extension for her own violations and **** ups??? She agreed to the regulations... she was given every chance to make it right including an extension... SHE had the responsibility, NOT the military... she deserves whatever punishment that can be afforded to her

You are indeed one disingenuous asshole with a definite agenda against the military and a definite propensity to lie about your military knowledge

Plans fell through a month before deployment? Holy shit! When you get busted lying you just lie some more.

Hutchinson had agreed to such a plan and her mother, Angelique Hughes, took in Kamani in a month before Hutchinson's deployment date.


But after a week with the infant, Hughes, who cares for ailing relatives and runs a day-care out of her home, said she felt so overwhelmed that she backed out.

Yes.. a month before deployment... 31 days or so in a month.. .minus a week.. still 24 days or basically a month...

NOT TO MENTION THAT SHE KNEW OF THE DEPLOYMENT FOR MONTHS... and had ALREADY been informed to get her preparations in order.. that does include backup plans... she had previously been given an extension to ensure her plans were viable and in order, which is something most soldiers do not get

And again... it is HER responsibility, not the military's.... it is also her duty and responsibility to deploy and follow orders as given

Again it will be asked... is she to get extension after extension for her own ****-ups and non-compliance with regulations and orders??

Again... your lack of knowledge of military life shows.. and your dishonesty is verging on troll-like behavior

She sent her son to her mother's a month before the deployment date. That old CNN article says that lasted for a week but later articles seem to agree it was about two weeks, as seen in this OP article. So she knew about 14 days before the deployment date. I've repeated these same facts several times because you keep choosing to be dishonest and then you have the audacity to accuse others of lying? Lol. Grow up.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Should have been discharged from the service when it was determined that she was pregnant. As that opportunity has passed, discharge her now.

IF you are going to have females in the service, they should be in non-deployable positions.

Or they could keep their legs closed or take the damn pill.

 

[CurveLight]

Should have been discharged from the service when it was determined that she was pregnant. As that opportunity has passed, discharge her now.

IF you are going to have females in the service, they should be in non-deployable positions.

Or they could keep their legs closed or take the damn pill.

Are you aware contraception is not one hundred percent? It's amazing how much our culture is fixated on finding a way to punish women who give birth.

 

[Care4all]

Fort Stewart spokesman Kevin Larson said Hutchinson's unit had known for months about its pending deployment and that it wasn't until the last minute that Hutchinson notified the Army of her child-care woes.

Like all soldiers who face similar circumstances, Hutchinson received a 30-day extension back in August and September, Larson said.

That's "plenty of time," he said, "to work out another care plan."

Mom chooses son over service - CNN.com

Wow. You absolutely are addicted to dishonesty aren't you? Please. Please stop broadcasting you're a Vet. You have no idea how much damage it does to the image of all Vets when someone like you continually actively engages in dishonesty.

I mean, why try to selectively quote that part from the article when I've already shown she sent her son away a month before the deployment date? I've already shown she didn't know her care plan fell through until only two weeks before the deployment date? All you are doing is insulting people who are reading this thread. You're hoping they are as dumb as you are dishonest but I hate to break it to ya, nobody is falling for your garbage. Now do the only thing you know how to do and drop some more neat phrases using the rep button because you sure as hell aren't man enough to be honest.

seems to me and only logical, that she was definitely making an effort to comply with her orders....I'm sure in the end, the gvt will not prosecute and jail her for this... I would guess that there are other women who did not even go as far as she did, in trying to make it all work, that have not served jail time for it?

 

[DiamondDave]

Plans fell through a month before deployment? Holy shit! When you get busted lying you just lie some more.

Hutchinson had agreed to such a plan and her mother, Angelique Hughes, took in Kamani in a month before Hutchinson's deployment date.


But after a week with the infant, Hughes, who cares for ailing relatives and runs a day-care out of her home, said she felt so overwhelmed that she backed out.

Yes.. a month before deployment... 31 days or so in a month.. .minus a week.. still 24 days or basically a month...

NOT TO MENTION THAT SHE KNEW OF THE DEPLOYMENT FOR MONTHS... and had ALREADY been informed to get her preparations in order.. that does include backup plans... she had previously been given an extension to ensure her plans were viable and in order, which is something most soldiers do not get

And again... it is HER responsibility, not the military's.... it is also her duty and responsibility to deploy and follow orders as given

Again it will be asked... is she to get extension after extension for her own ****-ups and non-compliance with regulations and orders??

Again... your lack of knowledge of military life shows.. and your dishonesty is verging on troll-like behavior

She sent her son to her mother's a month before the deployment date. That old CNN article says that lasted for a week but later articles seem to agree it was about two weeks, as seen in this OP article. So she knew about 14 days before the deployment date. I've repeated these same facts several times because you keep choosing to be dishonest and then you have the audacity to accuse others of lying? Lol. Grow up.

And it has been repeated to you over and over and over and over again

It is HER RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE A VIABLE PLAN AND BACKUP PLAN... she knew for months she was getting deployed.. and mysteriously with that knowledge, it was only at the end that her mother figured she would be 'overwhelmed'

You want the list of facts again? Fine

She knew of her deployment for MONTHS
She had inadequate plans in violation of regulations
She was given an extension to fix these plans
She was set for deployment again
A month before is when the mysterious inability of her mother comes into play
Her responsibility for having the required plans does not change and regulations do not change
She waits until the last minute to inform her comand
she disobeys orders
She is in violation of regulations
She refuses deployment
She is in violation of UCMJ


Now you want the opinion.. this woman is trying anything possible to stay out of deployment.. and the press and their touchy-feely ways are trying to make this into a sob story when it is actually a story about violations of orders and regulations by a woman who is trying to scam the system she agreed to

Try understanding the system that you are portraying yourself to have experience in

Care Provision Details. In addition to designating short-term and long-term care providers, the family care plan must include detailed plans for the care and support of the children. Family care plans must include provisions for logistical movement of the family or caregiver. Logistical arrangements include, but are not limited to, arrangements to relocate, if necessary, the caregiver or family to a new location, financial, medical and legal support necessary to ensure continuity of care and support of family members during the movement. Logistical arrangements must provide for financial support necessary to transport the family or caregiver to a designated location. The military member(s) must also give consideration of a non-military escort for family members requiring assistance such as infants, children, elderly and disabled adults should be outlined when personal family considerations dictate.

Family care plans must also include arrangements for the financial well-being of family members covered by the family care plan during short- and long-term separations. Arrangements for financial care should include power(s) of attorney, allotments, or other appropriate means to ensure the self-sufficiency and financial security of family members.

Each of the services have special provisions in place which allow designated care-providers to have access to military base facilities (commissary, BX/PX, medical) in order to affect the care of the military dependents, when the family care plan is actually in effect (i.e., care has been transferred from the military member to the care provider).

Commander Review

The regulations require that each family care plan be reviewed for workability and completeness by the commander or a designated representative. The "designated representative" is usually the executive officer or first sergeant. After the initial review, the plans are updated by the member and reviewed at least annually.

What About the Children? (Page 2)

She has failed in her responsibility.. she has failed her duty.. and she has disobeyed orders... she deserves punishment and/or dishonorable discharge for desertion
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm85.htm

 

[Vel]

It doesn't matter where the father is. The fact is she has nobody to leave the child with. Do you agree that is Court Martial material? What you call "missing information" looks more like a way to agree with the Court Martial.[/QUOTE]


Just want to point out that this attitude explains ALOT about the problems in this country.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

It's amazing how much our culture is fixated on finding a way to punish women who give birth.

That's was almost dumb enough to be one of JD's posts

 

[DiamondDave]

Fort Stewart spokesman Kevin Larson said Hutchinson's unit had known for months about its pending deployment and that it wasn't until the last minute that Hutchinson notified the Army of her child-care woes.

Like all soldiers who face similar circumstances, Hutchinson received a 30-day extension back in August and September, Larson said.

That's "plenty of time," he said, "to work out another care plan."

Mom chooses son over service - CNN.com

Wow. You absolutely are addicted to dishonesty aren't you? Please. Please stop broadcasting you're a Vet. You have no idea how much damage it does to the image of all Vets when someone like you continually actively engages in dishonesty.

I mean, why try to selectively quote that part from the article when I've already shown she sent her son away a month before the deployment date? I've already shown she didn't know her care plan fell through until only two weeks before the deployment date? All you are doing is insulting people who are reading this thread. You're hoping they are as dumb as you are dishonest but I hate to break it to ya, nobody is falling for your garbage. Now do the only thing you know how to do and drop some more neat phrases using the rep button because you sure as hell aren't man enough to be honest.

seems to me and only logical, that she was definitely making an effort to comply with her orders....I'm sure in the end, the gvt will not prosecute and jail her for this... I would guess that there are other women who did not even go as far as she did, in trying to make it all work, that have not served jail time for it?

As asked over and over and over again.... is she to be given extension after extension for her non-compliance and her own ****-ups against regulations??

 

[☭proletarian☭]

So much for personal responsibility.

If she planned on having a child and she's too stupid to have a contingency plan, she shouldn't have joined the service.

I call for a dishonorable discharge.

 

[CurveLight]

Fort Stewart spokesman Kevin Larson said Hutchinson's unit had known for months about its pending deployment and that it wasn't until the last minute that Hutchinson notified the Army of her child-care woes.

Like all soldiers who face similar circumstances, Hutchinson received a 30-day extension back in August and September, Larson said.

That's "plenty of time," he said, "to work out another care plan."

Mom chooses son over service - CNN.com

Wow. You absolutely are addicted to dishonesty aren't you? Please. Please stop broadcasting you're a Vet. You have no idea how much damage it does to the image of all Vets when someone like you continually actively engages in dishonesty.

I mean, why try to selectively quote that part from the article when I've already shown she sent her son away a month before the deployment date? I've already shown she didn't know her care plan fell through until only two weeks before the deployment date? All you are doing is insulting people who are reading this thread. You're hoping they are as dumb as you are dishonest but I hate to break it to ya, nobody is falling for your garbage. Now do the only thing you know how to do and drop some more neat phrases using the rep button because you sure as hell aren't man enough to be honest.

seems to me and only logical, that she was definitely making an effort to comply with her orders....I'm sure in the end, the gvt will not prosecute and jail her for this... I would guess that there are other women who did not even go as far as she did, in trying to make it all work, that have not served jail time for it?

When she found out, which was about two weeks before deployment all she asked for was an extension to find another care giver. That definitely seems reasonable and nothing that would have caused any major problems. The Yahoo article points to a similar situation where a mother of two on IRR was called up to deploy. But when she said her husband traveled too much to care for their two kids the Army never charged her and let her skip her deployment orders and return home. DD and a few others are just being jerks about this because the military doesn't even follow this rule as tightly as they want you to believe.

 

[Care4all]

It doesn't matter where the father is. The fact is she has nobody to leave the child with. Do you agree that is Court Martial material? What you call "missing information" looks more like a way to agree with the Court Martial.

Just want to point out that this attitude explains ALOT about the problems in this country.

it says in the article that the father and she split or something of the sort....?

but what you highlighted, fathers not taking responsibility for their own kin, is part of the problem according to statistics in the african american community, moreso than other ethnicities...(but not excluding other ethnicities) Deadbeat dad's are still around....boocoos of them...white, black, yellow, brown and red....they are out there!

 

[CurveLight]

So much for personal responsibility.

If she planned on having a child and she's too stupid to have a contingency plan, she shouldn't have joined the service.

I call for a dishonorable discharge.

And I'm sure you've always held yourself to this grid iron Death Star philosophy eh? C'mon. All she asked for was more time to find another caregiver. You're acting like she was just trying to get out of deployment when that's clearly not the case.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

I wonder whether a single father would get the same outpouring of attention

 

[TheSuaveOne]

You don't just ask for more time. It's not how it works. Units are deployed as "units" not a bunch of individuals. It's not like she can just catch the next flight out to the middle east and process out of the states and then into the ME all by herself.

And if she couldn't find anyone else to look after her child? What then?

-TSO

 

[☭proletarian☭]

It doesn't matter where the father is. The fact is she has nobody to leave the child with. Do you agree that is Court Martial material? What you call "missing information" looks more like a way to agree with the Court Martial.

Just want to point out that this attitude explains ALOT about the problems in this country.

it says in the article that the father and she split or something of the sort....?

but what you highlighted, fathers not taking responsibility for their own kin, is part of the problem according to statistics in the african american community, moreso than other ethnicities...(but not excluding other ethnicities) Deadbeat dad's are still around....boocoos of them...white, black, yellow, brown and red....they are out there!

Then the ni**er should have had better taste in men.