US Hire Palestinian armed guards.[Jerusalem]

[Phoenall]

Away yeah I forgot to mention a "terrorist" attack against the Jews which are less protected, but what am I thinking?! You don't care anyway..

Oh I care, I care a great deal. But my reservoir of caring is finite and needs to be carefully apportioned. I just add up the number of Palestinians, murdered and abused by Israelis and then add up the number of Israelis murdered and abused by Palestinians, total the numbers and then allocate my reservoir of sympathy accordingly to each side in proportion to their suffering.

Do you take out all the Palestinians engaged in terrorism or in breach of the Geneva conventions while you are doing so. If you did you would find that it would be very few Palestinians for you to show any sympathy for.

If I did that, I'd have to remove all the IDF thugs, rapists and murderers...oh, that's the whole population of Israel then.

LINK to show that all of population of Israel is a thug, rapist and murderer. Then explain why the arab muslims have complained about the IDF refusing to rape the Palestinian women ?

 

[RoccoR]

TheOldSchool, Daniyel, et al,

Believe me when I say, that the Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS) within the US Department of State (DOS) has taken all of it "Lessons Learned" to heart. And some of these "Lessons Learned" came at a very high price.

US consulate to arm Palestinian guards in spite of Israeli law - Israel News Ynetnews

Not learning from Egypt/Syria/Iraq - Ignorance kills.

Or maybe learning from Israel.

(CONTEXT)

First, I think that every Security Service in the world has learned something from the various Israeli Security institutions. America is not alone in that. But Israel is not the exclusive teacher --- and --- has made its share of mistakes. No nation (operating in the multitude of diverse and changing environments like the US) has a security service with a perfect record.

Second --- the current Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of Diplomatic Security (Greg Starr), has more than just passing experience with Israel and the Palestinian issue. He was once the Senior Regional Security Officer (RSO) at the US Embassy to Israel.

(COMMENT)

While I don't necessarily agree with all the policies and method of operations employed by DS, that is a far cry from saying that DS does not know what they are doing. In fact they know exactly what they are doing and have a firm decision making process for how they derived the decisions that they implement.

DOS provides safe, secure and functional facilities that represent the US Government to the host nation (speaking of non-DOD activities). With very few exceptions, the overseas facilities utilize to varying degrees, host nation citizens in security positions. And yes, many of them are armed and yes, many have been sent to the US for addition training. What is being described in the referenced Israeli News Article, is nothing at all unusual for the DOS to pursue.

Remembering that the use of host nation personnel has undergone various levels of review, risk assessments, and vetting processes, that are commensurate with the positions nominated.

There are any number of reasons I could mention in which one could legitimately criticize DS; but none of them are mentioned in the article.

Again, you may not agree with them (DS), but that doesn't mean they don't understand what they are doing. They have just taken an alternative path. They understand the risks very well; but they also understand the politics as well.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Daniyel]

TheOldSchool, Daniyel, et al,

Believe me when I say, that the Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS) within the US Department of State (DOS) has taken all of it "Lessons Learned" to heart. And some of these "Lessons Learned" came at a very high price.

US consulate to arm Palestinian guards in spite of Israeli law - Israel News Ynetnews

Not learning from Egypt/Syria/Iraq - Ignorance kills.

Or maybe learning from Israel.

(CONTEXT)

First, I think that every Security Service in the world has learned something from the various Israeli Security institutions. America is not alone in that. But Israel is not the exclusive teacher --- and --- has made its share of mistakes. No nation (operating in the multitude of diverse and changing environments like the US) has a security service with a perfect record.

Second --- the current Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of Diplomatic Security (Greg Starr), has more than just passing experience with Israel and the Palestinian issue. He was once the Senior Regional Security Officer (RSO) at the US Embassy to Israel.

(COMMENT)

While I don't necessarily agree with all the policies and method of operations employed by DS, that is a far cry from saying that DS does not know what they are doing. In fact they know exactly what they are doing and have a firm decision making process for how they derived the decisions that they implement.

DOS provides safe, secure and functional facilities that represent the US Government to the host nation (speaking of non-DOD activities). With very few exceptions, the overseas facilities utilize to varying degrees, host nation citizens in security positions. And yes, many of them are armed and yes, many have been sent to the US for addition training. What is being described in the referenced Israel News Article, is nothing at all unusual for the DOS to pursue.

Remembering that the use of host nation personnel has undergone various level of review, risk assessments, and vetting processes, that are commensurate with the positions nominated.

There are any number of reasons I could mention in which one could legitimately criticize DS; but none of them are mentioned in the article.

Again, you may not agree with them (DS), but that doesn't mean they don't understand what they are doing. They have just taken an alternative path. They understand the risks very well; but the also understand the politics as well.

Most Respectfully,
R

Except burying the dead, Israel won't do much about it, and its the people in the street that would pay the price for that.
With all the respect to Mr.Starr - all people in the world make wrong decisions everyday and it is something that can be affected by many different things in our lives, the only thing that can guarantee us the right decision would be to learn from previous mistakes, it can be many things but doing the same thing and expecting different outcome is pure stupidity unless its a gamble.

 

[High_Gravity]

US consulate to arm Palestinian guards in spite of Israeli law - Israel News Ynetnews

Not learning from Egypt/Syria/Iraq - Ignorance kills.

We are so ******* dumb sometimes it kills me.

 

[Humanity]

Away yeah I forgot to mention a "terrorist" attack against the Jews which are less protected, but what am I thinking?! You don't care anyway..

Oh I care, I care a great deal. But my reservoir of caring is finite and needs to be carefully apportioned. I just add up the number of Palestinians, murdered and abused by Israelis and then add up the number of Israelis murdered and abused by Palestinians, total the numbers and then allocate my reservoir of sympathy accordingly to each side in proportion to their suffering.

Do you take out all the Palestinians engaged in terrorism or in breach of the Geneva conventions while you are doing so. If you did you would find that it would be very few Palestinians for you to show any sympathy for.

 

[teddyearp]

I can see the why, but what gives me pause is the allegations that many of these folks have been arrested for rock throwing and/or have relatives connected to Hamas.

 

[montelatici]

I suppose when Shin bet orchestrate a "terrorist" incident against the American Consulate you will bleat, "Look, we told you so!" and the more gullable Americans will fall ror it as usual.

Gullable in the first place to arm Muslims that HOPEFULLY be the outcome.

It is absurd to have armed Jews too. They kill thousands of civilians every year or so.

 

[theliq]

I suppose the consulate building are going to be bombed now.

If they are it will be by Palestinians

Huh,it is only the Jews that assinated their own Prime Minister Mr Rabin.........you and the Zionist Scum Bags have no credibility......to talk of anyone.....the US obviously think they are much safer with the Palestinians...and who can blame them......theliq The Sentinel against Zionist Bullshit

 

[theliq]

Away yeah I forgot to mention a "terrorist" attack against the Jews which are less protected, but what am I thinking?! You don't care anyway..

Oh I care, I care a great deal. But my reservoir of caring is finite and needs to be carefully apportioned. I just add up the number of Palestinians, murdered and abused by Israelis and then add up the number of Israelis murdered and abused by Palestinians, total the numbers and then allocate my reservoir of sympathy accordingly to each side in proportion to their suffering.

in the past 60 years Challenger....the score line is 140,000+ Palestinian DEAD to 12,000 Israeli DEATHS.......but we all know Danny and his Zionist Fcuk Wits are wallowing in Palestinian BLOOD......This Guiltiness they carry for life.

 

[theliq]

Away yeah I forgot to mention a "terrorist" attack against the Jews which are less protected, but what am I thinking?! You don't care anyway..

Not really,as we see more horrific scenes from the Israeli side.against the Palestinians,the Jews have made Murder an Art Form...so your point was ??????

By the way..your summation is wrong in the first place..Danny Boyo..STEVE

 

[theliq]

"We do not discuss security for our diplomatic delegation, but note that there are many inaccuracies in the claims. Furthermore, we coordinate our work with local authorities in a complete and ongoing manner."

Seems like "much ado about nothing" scaremongering to me.

Politically correctness is far less appealing here in Israel, and basically when one states evasively in general words that its "inaccurate " it means it is true but he/she won't admit that instead of denying it all at once.
Bullshit Heroes.

Yeah I know you are not into Political Correctness.....How could You Be........When you lie all the time......Yep LYING IS YOUR THING,IN HEAPS..............correctness is word not know in Israel,but Hate is

 

[Phoenall]

Away yeah I forgot to mention a "terrorist" attack against the Jews which are less protected, but what am I thinking?! You don't care anyway..

Oh I care, I care a great deal. But my reservoir of caring is finite and needs to be carefully apportioned. I just add up the number of Palestinians, murdered and abused by Israelis and then add up the number of Israelis murdered and abused by Palestinians, total the numbers and then allocate my reservoir of sympathy accordingly to each side in proportion to their suffering.

Do you take out all the Palestinians engaged in terrorism or in breach of the Geneva conventions while you are doing so. If you did you would find that it would be very few Palestinians for you to show any sympathy for.

 

[Phoenall]

Geneva Conventions International Committee of the Red Cross

 

[Phoenall]

I suppose when Shin bet orchestrate a "terrorist" incident against the American Consulate you will bleat, "Look, we told you so!" and the more gullable Americans will fall ror it as usual.

Gullable in the first place to arm Muslims that HOPEFULLY be the outcome.

It is absurd to have armed Jews too. They kill thousands of civilians every year or so.

NOPE not according to STATUTORY INTERNATIONAL LAW the deaths are all down to hamas using them as human shields. Time to see the P.A. brought before the ICC on charges of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity.

 

[Phoenall]

I suppose the consulate building are going to be bombed now.

If they are it will be by Palestinians

Huh,it is only the Jews that assinated their own Prime Minister Mr Rabin.........you and the Zionist Scum Bags have no credibility......to talk of anyone.....the US obviously think they are much safer with the Palestinians...and who can blame them......theliq The Sentinel against Zionist Bullshit

How many times have Palestinians planted bombs to murder in the name of allah ? How many of the worlds terrorist actions are by ISLAMONAZI TERRORISTS. I have more credibility than you as I am not a muslim, nor am I a jew, and I see the problem through clear glass. THE PROBLEM IS THE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM.

 

[Phoenall]

Away yeah I forgot to mention a "terrorist" attack against the Jews which are less protected, but what am I thinking?! You don't care anyway..

Oh I care, I care a great deal. But my reservoir of caring is finite and needs to be carefully apportioned. I just add up the number of Palestinians, murdered and abused by Israelis and then add up the number of Israelis murdered and abused by Palestinians, total the numbers and then allocate my reservoir of sympathy accordingly to each side in proportion to their suffering.

in the past 60 years Challenger....the score line is 140,000+ Palestinian DEAD to 12,000 Israeli DEATHS.......but we all know Danny and his Zionist Fcuk Wits are wallowing in Palestinian BLOOD......This Guiltiness they carry for life.

Which ISLAMONAZI link supplied you with these details, I find that the numbers of Jews killed by Palestinian terrorists is 3,791 and the number of Palestinians killed by palestinians is 2,014.
Most of the Palestinian dead were as a direct result of the arab muslims declaring war on Israel so take them out leaving you with 12,800 so pretty even when you consider.
You will have to get up very early if you want to catch me out on figures ?

 

[Phoenall]

Away yeah I forgot to mention a "terrorist" attack against the Jews which are less protected, but what am I thinking?! You don't care anyway..

Not really,as we see more horrific scenes from the Israeli side.against the Palestinians,the Jews have made Murder an Art Form...so your point was ??????

By the way..your summation is wrong in the first place..Danny Boyo..STEVE

Who is it that murders its own people so they cant tell were the tunnels are, who is it murders their own people by forcing them to be human shields. Talk about an art form try the Israeli munitions that can kill the two people on a motorbike riding through a crowd and leave the rest of the crowd unharmed

 

[Challenger]

Away yeah I forgot to mention a "terrorist" attack against the Jews which are less protected, but what am I thinking?! You don't care anyway..

Oh I care, I care a great deal. But my reservoir of caring is finite and needs to be carefully apportioned. I just add up the number of Palestinians, murdered and abused by Israelis and then add up the number of Israelis murdered and abused by Palestinians, total the numbers and then allocate my reservoir of sympathy accordingly to each side in proportion to their suffering.

in the past 60 years Challenger....the score line is 140,000+ Palestinian DEAD to 12,000 Israeli DEATHS.......but we all know Danny and his Zionist Fcuk Wits are wallowing in Palestinian BLOOD......This Guiltiness they carry for life.

Which ISLAMONAZI link supplied you with these details, I find that the numbers of Jews killed by Palestinian terrorists is 3,791 and the number of Palestinians killed by palestinians is 2,014.
Most of the Palestinian dead were as a direct result of the arab muslims declaring war on Israel so take them out leaving you with 12,800 so pretty even when you consider.
You will have to get up very early if you want to catch me out on figures ?

Your figures come from the Hasbara department, which get faithully reproduced on the jewish Virtual Library Hasbara website. Try an unbiased site next time.

 

[Challenger]

Away yeah I forgot to mention a "terrorist" attack against the Jews which are less protected, but what am I thinking?! You don't care anyway..

Not really,as we see more horrific scenes from the Israeli side.against the Palestinians,the Jews have made Murder an Art Form...so your point was ??????

By the way..your summation is wrong in the first place..Danny Boyo..STEVE

Who is it that murders its own people so they cant tell were the tunnels are, who is it murders their own people by forcing them to be human shields. Talk about an art form try the Israeli munitions that can kill the two people on a motorbike riding through a crowd and leave the rest of the crowd unharmed

"Who is it that murders its own people so they cant tell were the tunnels are" You mean the "informers" paid for by the Zionist security services? They're called traitors in any language.

"Who is it murders their own people by forcing them to be human shields." Unproven. The only objective documented cases of human shield use, are by the cowardly IDF.

"Talk about an art form try the Israeli munitions that can kill the two people on a motorbike riding through a crowd and leave the rest of the crowd." Yeah, I've often wondered, why, if the IDF have this capability to kill their enemies, they need to obliterate whole neighbourhoods and slaughter thousands of innnocent bystanders, women and children. Probably just because they want to commit genocide by "mowing the lawn" every now and then.

 

[Challenger]

I suppose the consulate building are going to be bombed now.

If they are it will be by Palestinians

Huh,it is only the Jews that assinated their own Prime Minister Mr Rabin.........you and the Zionist Scum Bags have no credibility......to talk of anyone.....the US obviously think they are much safer with the Palestinians...and who can blame them......theliq The Sentinel against Zionist Bullshit

How many times have Palestinians planted bombs to murder in the name of allah ? How many of the worlds terrorist actions are by ISLAMONAZI TERRORISTS. I have more credibility than you as I am not a muslim, nor am I a jew, and I see the problem through clear glass. THE PROBLEM IS THE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM.

The problem is the continuing existance of a fascist, exclusivist, Zionist state.