US Birthrate Continues to Decline

[JoeB131]

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Not practical in this day and age.

Most people live together for years before they get married, and we are all better off for it.

 

[initforme]

That statement makes no sense. If men and women fail to find each other to form COUPLES, then that would contribute to the fall of the fertility rate.

Time and time again, you state things like this, that really make it look like you are being dishonest in your support of low fertility.

Or perhaps people are simply becoming more independent. That is pissible.

 

[Correll]

Or perhaps people are simply becoming more independent. That is pissible.

It's not likely.

Much more likely, is that there is a problem preventing the dating market from working correctly.

Or more than one problem even.


Especially considering the large number of men and women that are complaining about not being able to find women or "good men".


So,.... you want to address that?

 

[initforme]

It's not likely.

Much more likely, is that there is a problem preventing the dating market from working correctly.

Or more than one problem even.


Especially considering the large number of men and women that are complaining about not being able to find women or "good men".


So,.... you want to address that?

Perhaps that has some affect. Affordability is a huge part of it. Look at the cost of health insurance. Deductibles of 5 thousand or higher are extreme and they continue to climb. Daycare can be pricey. The lady next door started daycare for her baby 9 days after giving birth. She pays $800 per 40 hrs. Thats 3200 per month. Then add the cost of diapers which are going up. Now gas prices are up there. Her and her husband, who is generally gone at least 2 to 3 days per week as he travels alot, make good money and she said 1 kid and done. With everything going up in price faster than wages rising. Its going to be hard.

 

[Correll]

Perhaps that has some affect. Affordability is a huge part of it. Look at the cost of health insurance. Deductibles of 5 thousand or higher are extreme and they continue to climb. Daycare can be pricey. The lady next door started daycare for her baby 9 days after giving birth. She pays $800 per 40 hrs. Thats 3200 per month. Then add the cost of diapers which are going up. Now gas prices are up there. Her and her husband, who is generally gone at least 2 to 3 days per week as he travels alot, make good money and she said 1 kid and done. With everything going up in price faster than wages rising. Its going to be hard.

Errr, right....

Let me try.

For generations, we have been using policy to push economic equality for women, to the point that by many metrics, that are actually in a SUPERIOR position to men, especially among the young adults., ie the pool of people who should be looking to form families.


Yet, most women want a man that MAKES MORE MONEY THEN HER.


That is society working hard, for generations, to set both men and women up for failure.


Let's go slow. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONFLICT HERE?

 

[Marener]

They are doing that, becasue they are not actually "protesting".

What they are doing, is trying attempting to provoke a violent response.

They are not protestors, they are thus Agent Provocateurs who are looking to provoke a violent response. Thousands of them.


They succeeded. Then fellow political operatives in the media used the footage, from all the cameras that were CONSTANTLY deployed to capture the planned incident, to gin up a false propaganada/political move, to force a change in policy.

It worked.


That was not a protest leading to political pressure, that led to a change in policy, as per traditional political rules and norms.

It was an use of FORCE. The Agent Provocateurs used FORCE, to stop the policy of the duly elected President.


That is your side, not lettting out side have our turn at policy.

That you refused to answer my question and I had to answer it for you, was you being a ******* asshole, thus adding insult to injury.


Do you want a civil war? This is how you get a civil war.

**** you some more.

Yet again, you’re putting the blame on everyone else.

People didn’t like ICE acting like a bunch of thugs. Apparently you think that means the people can’t express that anger or else you’re going to make a civil war.

How about you blame the ICE agents for engaging in acts of violence? How about you blame the idiots in charge of ICE for creating the culture of aggression and violence? How about you blame the political leaders for telling ICE they’re immune and unaccountable?

No. You’re going to blame people who utilizing their constitutional rights.

You have your turn at policy. It’s not our fault you fucked it up.

 

[Marener]

Errr, right....

Let me try.

For generations, we have been using policy to push economic equality for women, to the point that by many metrics, that are actually in a SUPERIOR position to men, especially among the young adults., ie the pool of people who should be looking to form families.


Yet, most women want a man that MAKES MORE MONEY THEN HER.


That is society working hard, for generations, to set both men and women up for failure.


Let's go slow. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONFLICT HERE?

Only about 20% of women wouldn’t date a man who makes less than them.

But 60% of men wouldn’t date a woman who makes more then them.

Trying to blame women for everything is a big part of what is wrong here.

 

[JohnDB]

Only about 20% of women wouldn’t date a man who makes less than them.

But 60% of men wouldn’t date a woman who makes more then them.

Trying to blame women for everything is a big part of what is wrong here.

Women have traded being a wife, homemaker, and mom for a crappy job, unsatisfied boss, and a second rate paycheck....
And told that this is empowerment.
However as this has happened women's happiness has plummeted drastically. The percentage of mental health disorders has risen at the exact same rate as marriage/motherhood percentages decline.
Sure, correlation is not causation....but there seems to be a pathology as well.

 

[initforme]

Errr, right....

Let me try.

For generations, we have been using policy to push economic equality for women, to the point that by many metrics, that are actually in a SUPERIOR position to men, especially among the young adults., ie the pool of people who should be looking to form families.


Yet, most women want a man that MAKES MORE MONEY THEN HER.


That is society working hard, for generations, to set both men and women up for failure.


Let's go slow. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONFLICT HERE

Well either those women will find their man or they won't if they are not going accept a man that doesnt earn a big wage. Thats on them at that point. I still believe affordability is a huge huge issue. Kids cost $$ and that price is rising faster than wages. Anyone who believes it's not an issue is refuting a big part of the issue.