Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

Marked with the word Classified is pretty specific.
Well lookie here.......it appears there is a lack of evidence and that the government has NO CASE AGAINST DONALD J. TRUMP.

And the FBI agent who ordered the search has been escorted off of FBI property and fired. He was also the agent that suppressed the story about Hunter Biden's laptop:




"We now know why the DOJ wanted the affidavit — which is supposed to articulate the probable cause needed for a legitimate search — to be kept under seal. After the magistrate who authorized the search forced the DOJ to unseal a redacted version, two realities came into better focus.
First, the affidavit confirmed that the FBI’s investigation was triggered in January 2022 at the request of the National Archives, which wanted certain documents, especially classified documents, that it considered to be presidential records to be turned over to it by Trump. Second, from what I have seen, I don’t believe the affidavit articulates how a federal law was or is being broken. For those who hold out hope that the affidavit’s redacted sections fill that gap, there is almost no chance that they do. (More on that below.)​
As to the first point, this matter is, as suspected, nothing more than a document dispute that was chugging along, appropriately, as a negotiation behind the scenes and apparently making some progress. I don’t see anything in the affidavit asserting a refusal by Trump to cooperate.​
Any clinging hope — in certain quarters — that the affidavit possessed ā€œpulverizingā€ cause to believe Trump was engaged in a truly serious federal violation can — I think — be considered dashed. The pipe dream that Trump was engaged in espionage, actively providing secrets to an enemy I think is as fanciful as the Steele dossier’s Moscow hotel bed reverie. And, no, I don’t believe a smoking gun of espionage or something equally shocking will be in the redacted sections. If the FBI had that, it would have fronted that in the unredacted portions.​
As to the second and more important point, the affidavit’s probable cause statements focus on only half of what is needed to show a possible violation of the federal statutes that are cited in the warrant. The affidavit does a reasonable job of establishing cause to believe Trump possessed a range of classified materials — or at least once-classified materials — and that those materials were located in his residence.​
But that’s not all that’s needed — in this case in particular. A criminal violation of those statutes only exists if it can be established that the person being investigated was not authorized to possess, store, transfer or copy those documents. This is an easy element to establish against anyone in America. Except one person.​
The unredacted parts of the affidavit make no attempt to articulate cause that Trump was not authorized to have these documents in his home. The reason is that, as president, he had broad, legally intimidating authority, established by law and court determinations, to declassify any and all documents and to determine what is and is not a presidential record. Trump and his legal team have asserted that this authority was exercised while he was still president. Therefore, a violation of these fairly low-level and seldom-prosecuted document-oriented statutes cannot be proven.​
I don’t think there’s much chance that the affidavit’s redacted portions contain some novel legal theory undercutting this broad, well-established presidential authority. Affidavits for intrusive searches of a private home — the most extreme action the government can take against a resident of the United States, short of arrest — are not the place for advancing theories. Probable cause must be built on facts."​
 
Lindsey Graham will be an accessory to violence if it occurs, over a slam dunk case against Trump, violating the Espionage Act.

He is calling for violence if Trump is indicted, because the FBI did their job over taking classified documents. Yes, you read that right. They are calling on tearing this country down at the expense of protecting a criminal.
 
Lindsey Graham will be an accessory to violence if it occurs, over a slam dunk case against Trump, violating the Espionage Act.

He is calling for violence if Trump is indicted, because the FBI did their job over taking classified documents. Yes, you read that right. They are calling on tearing this country down at the expense of protecting a criminal.

Yawn...Black violence is good.
 
Marked with the word Classified is pretty specific.

They do not mark any documents with the word "Classified".
The 3 private classifications are: confidential, secret, and top secret.
Documents can also be labeled: restricted, protected, and unclassified.
There are various markers used:

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Well lookie here.......it appears there is a lack of evidence and that the government has NO CASE AGAINST DONALD J. TRUMP.

And the FBI agent who ordered the search has been escorted off of FBI property and fired. He was also the agent that suppressed the story about Hunter Biden's laptop:




"We now know why the DOJ wanted the affidavit — which is supposed to articulate the probable cause needed for a legitimate search — to be kept under seal. After the magistrate who authorized the search forced the DOJ to unseal a redacted version, two realities came into better focus.
First, the affidavit confirmed that the FBI’s investigation was triggered in January 2022 at the request of the National Archives, which wanted certain documents, especially classified documents, that it considered to be presidential records to be turned over to it by Trump. Second, from what I have seen, I don’t believe the affidavit articulates how a federal law was or is being broken. For those who hold out hope that the affidavit’s redacted sections fill that gap, there is almost no chance that they do. (More on that below.)​
As to the first point, this matter is, as suspected, nothing more than a document dispute that was chugging along, appropriately, as a negotiation behind the scenes and apparently making some progress. I don’t see anything in the affidavit asserting a refusal by Trump to cooperate.​
Any clinging hope — in certain quarters — that the affidavit possessed ā€œpulverizingā€ cause to believe Trump was engaged in a truly serious federal violation can — I think — be considered dashed. The pipe dream that Trump was engaged in espionage, actively providing secrets to an enemy I think is as fanciful as the Steele dossier’s Moscow hotel bed reverie. And, no, I don’t believe a smoking gun of espionage or something equally shocking will be in the redacted sections. If the FBI had that, it would have fronted that in the unredacted portions.​
As to the second and more important point, the affidavit’s probable cause statements focus on only half of what is needed to show a possible violation of the federal statutes that are cited in the warrant. The affidavit does a reasonable job of establishing cause to believe Trump possessed a range of classified materials — or at least once-classified materials — and that those materials were located in his residence.​
But that’s not all that’s needed — in this case in particular. A criminal violation of those statutes only exists if it can be established that the person being investigated was not authorized to possess, store, transfer or copy those documents. This is an easy element to establish against anyone in America. Except one person.​
The unredacted parts of the affidavit make no attempt to articulate cause that Trump was not authorized to have these documents in his home. The reason is that, as president, he had broad, legally intimidating authority, established by law and court determinations, to declassify any and all documents and to determine what is and is not a presidential record. Trump and his legal team have asserted that this authority was exercised while he was still president. Therefore, a violation of these fairly low-level and seldom-prosecuted document-oriented statutes cannot be proven.​
I don’t think there’s much chance that the affidavit’s redacted portions contain some novel legal theory undercutting this broad, well-established presidential authority. Affidavits for intrusive searches of a private home — the most extreme action the government can take against a resident of the United States, short of arrest — are not the place for advancing theories. Probable cause must be built on facts."​

There is no dispute. Trump stole the documents violating federal law. There is no wiggling around that reality. And classification has no meaning in this case. He stole them. Period! Get over it.
 
They are not his personal property, but are totally and completely under his complete discretion. Not after he leaves office.

But if he sent them to Mar-a-Lago while still president, then there is nothing wrong with what he did except that he was slow separating what was going to get sent to NARA.
 
You have this backwards.
The National Archives has zero inventory listings until Trump gives it to them.
The National Archives has no idea what Trump may or may not have.
He could have legally destroyed the documents created for every briefing, right after the briefing.
There is no entity that can dictate what presidents have to do.
It is up to them, totally.
The National Archives are the passive recipient of whatever a president decides to give them, and they have no expectations at all.

its the job of these people to keep inventory & records.
Its all recorded, as its always been.
And its the property of the people, not the person holding office of the president.
 
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They do not mark any documents with the word "Classified".
The 3 private classifications are: confidential, secret, and top secret.
Documents can also be labeled: restricted, protected, and unclassified.
There are various markers used:

slide14-n.jpg
Irrelevant! Why were they at his home? That's a federal crime.
 
But if he sent them to Mar-a-Lago while still president, then there is nothing wrong with what he did except that he was slow separating what was going to get sent to NARA.
 
Lindsey Graham will be an accessory to violence if it occurs, over a slam dunk case against Trump, violating the Espionage Act.

He is calling for violence if Trump is indicted, because the FBI did their job over taking classified documents. Yes, you read that right. They are calling on tearing this country down at the expense of protecting a criminal.


If we did not indict Bush for lying about Iraqi WMD, and murdering half a million innocent civilians with "Shock and Awe", then we should not be touching Trump.
The worst anyone can claim is that he was slow in satisfying the NARA requirements for FOIA.
 
There is no dispute. Trump stole the documents violating federal law. There is no wiggling around that reality. And classification has no meaning in this case. He stole them. Period! Get over it.

Wrong.
Trump is the one who is supposed to remove and sort the documents created under his administration.
It just is not supposed to take over 2 years.
 
Irrelevant! Why were they at his home? That's a federal crime.

No it is NOT a crime at all for presidents to send documents to their home, Camp David, foreign negotiations locations, or anywhere he wants.
They just have to have security up to their classification.
 
No it is NOT a crime at all for presidents to send documents to their home, Camp David, foreign negotiations locations, or anywhere he wants.
They just have to have security up to their classification.
I presume you have come to the proper conclusion that BWK is an idiot.
 
But if he sent them to Mar-a-Lago while still president, then there is nothing wrong with what he did except that he was slow separating what was going to get sent to NARA.
Dude, OMG! You are so out of touch it's amazing. You can't just send hundreds of documents to Mara Lago then go there yourself as an ex-president, then declassify them. Are you insane? Not to mention, what about the documents that were planted by the FBI? They couldn't have been there too right? Trump went through them himself, remember? Then he established they were his.

You send documents to Mara Lago, declassify them later, claiming they were planted, calling them his, and now you come up with this story? :spinner: :spinner: :spinner: :spinner: Dude, get back to planet earth.
 
No it is NOT a crime at all for presidents to send documents to their home, Camp David, foreign negotiations locations, or anywhere he wants.
They just have to have security up to their classification.
Not after his term is up. Show me where that is legal? You keep talking about when he was president. You need to get it together here. You are losing your shit.
 
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That's not an argument. You are running from the truth;
Can a president secretly declassify information without leaving a written record or telling anyone?

That question, according to specialists in the law of government secrecy, is borderline incoherent.

If there is no directive memorializing a decision to declassify information and conveying it to the rest of the government, the action would essentially have no consequence, as departments and agencies would continue to consider that information classified and so would continue to restrict access to documents containing it.


ā€œHypothetical questions like ā€˜What if a president thinks to himself that something is declassified? Does that change its status?’ are so speculative that their practical meaning is negligible,ā€ said Steven Aftergood, a secrecy specialist with the Federation of American Scientists.



How are you going to memorialize declassification when it isn't known? You keep posting stupid ass shit.

The point of an ex-president sorting classified documents is so that they can decide if they should be destroyed, reclassified, declassified, etc.
What they used to be has no bearing on what they should become after the tenure is over.
 
He's not doing so well, and you are doing nothing. Please, introduce your expertise into this discussion, pending you know any ******* thing.
It's obvious you aren't reading AP News.
My expertise is the opposite of yours...You are an emotionally disturbed BLMer while I'm reading the news everyday.
 
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