Unreliable Haaretz. Fake news, lies + hate. Updated file [Haaretzism]

[Sayaras]

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There ya go

 

[Sayaras]

I'm just asking the question, ..

You are not. You are that known rabble rouser. Yusuf. Don't you dare mask your feces via "politics," or "just a question."

 

[Bleipriester]

Radical left and worse. Since 2000.
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Any wonder the 32 editors organized cabal on Arab Mrs. Maryana Iskander's led Wikipedia is promoting Haaretzism?

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May 30, 2025

Wikipedia CEO Mariana Eskander is finally stepping down. Under her leadership the ADL released a report that over 30 Wikipedia editors participated in a coordinated effort to introduce anti-Israel and anti-Semitic bias across the platform.
This group edited 10,000 articles about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, changing definitions like Zionism to a “colonial project.”
They also omitted terrorist acts and downplayed Hamas as a terrorist organization.
Despite the evidence, the foundation took no significant action—only suspending six pro-Palestinian editors.

Look at the opinion pieces they host and what comments they get:

#41
"For Palestine and the Left•15:57
We will continue to shut down the economy again and again until the Zionist entity surrenders and gives the victory to Hamas"

אסור למחאה לעצור ביום שביתה אחד. יש לשבש את הסדר עד לחזרת כל החטופים | דעה

יום השביתה והשיבוש שמתקיים היום עשוי להיות אחד ממפגני הערבות ההדדית החשובים מאז 7 באוקטובר. קריאת משפחות החטופים ומשפחות שכולות להשבית את המשק בעקבות החלטת הקבי

www.haaretz.co.il

 

[Sayaras]

Look at the opinion pieces they host and what comments they get:

#41
"For Palestine and the Left•15:57
We will continue to shut down the economy again and again until the Zionist entity surrenders and gives the victory to Hamas"

אסור למחאה לעצור ביום שביתה אחד. יש לשבש את הסדר עד לחזרת כל החטופים | דעה

יום השביתה והשיבוש שמתקיים היום עשוי להיות אחד ממפגני הערבות ההדדית החשובים מאז 7 באוקטובר. קריאת משפחות החטופים ומשפחות שכולות להשבית את המשק בעקבות החלטת הקבי

www.haaretz.co.il

Last year, someone took screenshots of Arab commentators all pro Hitler.
As it is known, Haaretz in English is even worse, and more hyperbolic as it tries to seek click bait from racists.

 

[Bleipriester]

Last year, someone took screenshits of Arab commentators all pro Hitler.

And they are interwoven with the left. Same in other countries.

 

[Sayaras]

And they are interwoven with the left. Same in other countries.

Of course. Then you have the sleek IslamoSocialist Zohran Mamdani who has both as a sandwich... just like Siad Barre, the butcher of 2 million Isaaq tribe in late 1980s where Ilhan Onar's father was a general.
Ilhan Omar’s Father and the Isaaq Genocide: The Truth Revealed.

Ilhan Omar’s Father and the Isaaq Genocide: The Truth Revealed

Between 1981 and 1991, the Somali military in which Colonel Nur Omar Mohamed, Ilhan Omar’s father, served as a senior officer executed a brutal and systematic campaign of genocide targeting the Isaaq people of the modern day Republic of Somaliland. This dark chapter in Africa’s history, which...

somalilandchronicle.com

 

[JoeB131]

The atheists nations USSR Red China and Cambodia slaughtered over 100 million people

Not even close to true.

The John Birch Society called, they want their propaganda back.

 

[Hafar1014]

Not even close to true.

The John Birch Society called, they want their propaganda back.

Its actually much more and I didnt include the Red China covid pandemic

 

[JoeB131]

Its actually much more and I didnt include the Red China covid pandemic

Nope.

Not even close.

The only way you get into 8 figures is by including the Great Famine of 1959-62. That was a natural disaster, not a man-made problem. China has had famines throughout most of its history, going back to the Han Dynasty.

 

[Sayaras]

Not even close to true.

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You and the ' truth ' don't even meet by chance.

 

[Sayaras]

Its actually much more and I didnt include the Red China covid pandemic

Indeed.

 

[Bleipriester]

Nope.

Not even close.

The only way you get into 8 figures is by including the Great Famine of 1959-62. That was a natural disaster, not a man-made problem. China has had famines throughout most of its history, going back to the Han Dynasty.

GREAT LEAP FORWARD: ITS HISTORY, FAILURES, SUFFERING AND FORCES BEHIND IT | Facts and Details

factsanddetails.com

 

[Hafar1014]

GREAT LEAP FORWARD: ITS HISTORY, FAILURES, SUFFERING AND FORCES BEHIND IT | Facts and Details

factsanddetails.com

Mao deliberately starved millions as did Stalin. Then we have the killing fields of Cambodia. Atheist communism is the most destructive ideology in history

 

[JoeB131]

Mao deliberately starved millions as did Stalin. Then we have the killing fields of Cambodia. Atheist communism is the most destructive ideology in history

Try to stick to one topic.

The Great Famine was hardly "deliberate". Try to use a lick of ******* common sense.

There were several contributing factors to the Great Famine. Some of them were natural disasters, such as droughts and flooding of the Yellow River. Others were policies.

The first was the culture of Communist China. Local leaders' exaggerated reports of grain yields led the central government to believe they had more food than they actually did.

China also adopted the agricultural theories of Trofim Lysenko (A soviet scientist who can also be blamed for the Ukrainian Famine), which called for Close Planting and deep plowing. - Too many plants on too few soil.

There was the "Four Pests" campaign, which called for killing sparrows because they ate grain. Sparrows also ate insects, which exploded after the sparrows were killed.

There was also shifting millions of agricultural workers to industrial workers.

All of these were bad policies, but they were hardly deliberate murder.

 

[Hafar1014]

Try to stick to one topic.

The Great Famine was hardly "deliberate". Try to use a lick of ******* common sense.

There were several contributing factors to the Great Famine. Some of them were natural disasters, such as droughts and flooding of the Yellow River. Others were policies.

The first was the culture of Communist China. Local leaders' exaggerated reports of grain yields led the central government to believe they had more food than they actually did.

China also adopted the agricultural theories of Trofim Lysenko (A soviet scientist who can also be blamed for the Ukrainian Famine), which called for Close Planting and deep plowing. - Too many plants on too few soil.

There was the "Four Pests" campaign, which called for killing sparrows because they ate grain. Sparrows also ate insects, which exploded after the sparrows were killed.

There was also shifting millions of agricultural workers to industrial workers.

All of these were bad policies, but they were hardly deliberate murder.

Mao Zedong's policies, particularly during the Great Leap Forward (1958-1962), are indeed associated with a horrific famine in China. While exact figures are debated, estimates for the number of people who died from starvation during this period range widely, from 15 million to 55 million. Many sources cite the figure of 30 million.
The famine, often referred to as the Great Chinese Famine, is considered largely man-made. Key factors contributing to this devastating loss of life include:

• Central Planning and Collectivization: Forcing peasants into large-scale communes and eliminating private farming disrupted traditional agricultural practices and disincentivized farmers.
• Disastrous Agricultural Techniques: Mao's reliance on untested ideas from discredited agronomists like Lysenko led to harmful practices like close-planting and deep-plowing that reduced crop yields.
• Diversion of Labor to Industry: Millions of farmers were redirected from agriculture to unproductive iron and steel production in backyard furnaces, leading to unharvested crops and further shortages.
• Over-reporting of Production: Local officials, under pressure to meet ambitious quotas, exaggerated grain output figures, creating an "illusion of superabundance" that led to excessive state grain procurement and left little for the peasants.
• Refusal of Foreign Aid and Continued Exports: Despite the widespread starvation, China continued exporting grain to maintain a façade of success and pay back Soviet debts, refusing offers of international food aid.
• Suppression of Dissent: Critics of the Great Leap policies faced severe repercussions, silencing those who might have accurately reported the dire situation.

In addition to deaths from starvation, some studies suggest that violence and persecution related to the Great Leap Forward also contributed to the death toll, according to TheCollector. The long-term impacts on Chinese society and the environment were profound.

• Great Leap Forward - Wikipedia
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• China's great famine: 40 years later - PMC
  Roles. ... Forty years ago China was in the middle of the world's largest famine: between the spring of 1959 and the end of 1961 some 30 million Chinese starved...
  
  
  
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• • Forced collectivization: Stalin's policies, especially the forced collectivization of agriculture, played a crucial role in creating the conditions that led to widespread famine.
  • Targeting of Ukrainians: There is a strong consensus among many historians and scholars that the famine was deliberately engineered or exacerbated against the Ukrainian people, with the intent to suppress Ukrainian nationalism and resistance to Soviet policies. According to the University of Minnesota Twin Cities, "most estimates by scholars range from roughly 3.5 million to 7 million" deaths from the Holodomor. The House of Commons Library states that between four and seven million people, mainly Ukrainian peasant farmers, are estimated to have starved to death in the Ukrainian famine of 1932-33.
  • Broader Soviet Famine: The Holodomor was part of a broader Soviet famine of 1930–1933, which affected other grain-producing areas, including Kazakhstan and parts of Russia.
  • Differing Estimates: Estimates of the death toll vary significantly. Some early estimates ranged from 7 to 10 million people for the Soviet famine as a whole, while more recent scholarship suggests a range of 3.5 to 5 million victims in Ukraine specifically.

 

[JoeB131]

Mao Zedong's policies, particularly during the Great Leap Forward (1958-1962), are indeed associated with a horrific famine in China. While exact figures are debated, estimates for the number of people who died from starvation during this period range widely, from 15 million to 55 million. Many sources cite the figure of 30 million.
The famine, often referred to as the Great Chinese Famine, is considered largely man-made. Key factors contributing to this devastating loss of life include:

You just repeated the same thing I said.

Not seeing murder here. Incompetence and natural disaster, maybe, but not murder.

 

[Hafar1014]

You just repeated the same thing I said.

Not seeing murder here. Incompetence and natural disaster, maybe, but not murder.

No it was policy that caused the deaths

 

[JoeB131]

No it was policy that caused the deaths

policy along with natural disasters and human error, in a country with a LONG history of these kinds of problems.

China has had famines going back to the Han Dynasty.

 

[Sayaras]

Its actually much more and I didnt include the Red China covid pandemic

Yup