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United Nations. Formed on this day. Opinions on its success

Has the United Nations been an effective force for good.


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lg325

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United Nations established
The charter for the United Nations—the world's premier international organization, established at the end of World War II to maintain world peace and friendly relations among nations—entered into force this day in 1945. Has it been an effective force for good?
 

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The UN is a malignancy. It was never intended to be something "good". It's the asinine dream of the Lord Of Bed Wetter's karl marx to have a global collectivist government. It should be eradicated from our soil. They can set up shop in Pyongyang or Havana.

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Lotta fringe loonies in the U.N. which is a good thing as it keeps them off the streets where they could molest/harm innocent New Yorkers. The U.N. appears to be an impotent charter to me, like they are no more than yes men for U,S, foreign policy from what I know about them.
 

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United Nations established
The charter for the United Nations—the world's premier international organization, established at the end of World War II to maintain world peace and friendly relations among nations—entered into force this day in 1945. Has it been an effective force for good?
Yes. Hardly perfect and fairly corrupt, but if the major powers agree on something, it provides a framework for multinational action. There are UN peacekeeper actions that had positive results. Of course the major powers can block any actions they wish but the world with a UN is a better one than the world without one.
 

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Lotta fringe loonies in the U.N. which is a good thing as it keeps them off the streets where they could molest/harm innocent New Yorkers. The U.N. appears to be an impotent charter to me, like they are no more than yes men for U,S, foreign policy from what I know about them.
Oh I vehemently disagree with you.

The UN draws all of the world's perverts and lunatics here, and they go out on the streets with "diplomatic immunity" and get away with God Knows what. They're only "yes men" to foreign policy that is against our interests.
 

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United Nations established
The charter for the United Nations—the world's premier international organization, established at the end of World War II to maintain world peace and friendly relations among nations—entered into force this day in 1945. Has it been an effective force for good?
Paper Tiger.....haven't stopped or helped in many wars
...UN peacekeepers MURDERED and the UN does ---------NOTHING !!!!
UN '''''''PEACEKEEPERS '''' taken HOSTAGE!!!
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they don't have the will/organization/power/etc = PUSSes/whimps/worthless WASTE of US tax $$$$$$
 

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Yes. Hardly perfect and fairly corrupt, but if the major powers agree on something, it provides a framework for multinational action. There are UN peacekeeper actions that had positive results. Of course the major powers can block any actions they wish but the world with a UN is a better one than the world without one.
peacekeeper actions had positive results !!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH bullshit.......
 

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The UN probably saved us from from world war 3. So there's that.
1. bullshit --no it didn't and can't be proven YES--you said PROBABLY = no proof at all
2. here's the kicker = most wars are not total wars - they are contained
 

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Wasted of time and money, the US should never have been involved in this fiasco
 

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The UN probably saved us from from world war 3. So there's that.
----AND it didn't stop the Korean war with MANY nations involved ..China with Russian help vs the West
..the UN APPROVED of the US/etc getting involved in Korea
 

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Lotta fringe loonies in the U.N. which is a good thing as it keeps them off the streets where they could molest/harm innocent New Yorkers. The U.N. appears to be an impotent charter to me, like they are no more than yes men for U,S, foreign policy from what I know about them.
That's a popular view held by many but imho it horribly misses the mark.

The vast majority of what the UN does is boring stuff that we want & can't live w/o --ok, not w/o severe consequences. Stuff like weights'n'measures coordination, telecoms, mail, financial transactions, contract enforcement, stuff u never hear about because it's not news.

The bottom line is that like it or not, the UN is just what people are going to do whether u approve or not. Sure, we get loonys coming into the U.S. because of it, but they do their best to keep it to a minimum --and the advantages of having the UN here far outweigh the disadvantages.
 

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United Nations established
The charter for the United Nations—the world's premier international organization, established at the end of World War II to maintain world peace and friendly relations among nations—entered into force this day in 1945. Has it been an effective force for good?
It was good at first when "todos en el mundo" (everyone in earth) was or were trying to reconcile the hundreds of thousands of deaths in western democracies but hundreds of millions in eastern totalitarian blocs, not to mention killings over unresolved issues upon African, central America and South America against tribal populations withheld from front page news. There was just too much bad news and we couldn't take really bad news anymore. Even in the fifties, the movies always were preceded by cartoons to make us laugh and be receptive to entertainment for children and adults. I was a child then and looked forward to kids' day at the mitary bases we lived near to. The series to bring viewers back were given new expressions like "cliff hangers," "along came Jones," etcetera, along with plenty of previews of upcoming movies.
 
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I agree, but it is a place that countries can work out problems and avoid wars and help each other solve problems like poverty caused by drought and other natural disasters.
Why do the need a separate place to work things out?
 

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peacekeeper actions had positive results !!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH bullshit.......
Successes as well as failures
In recent years, the peacekeeping operation of the UN in Sierra Leone has become an often cited example of successful peacekeeping. From 1999 to 2005, UN peacekeepers worked in Sierra Leone to stabilise the country during and after the civil war. The main objectives of the mission were to assist in the disarmament and enforce the terms of the Lome Peace Agreement. The UN was also involved in setting up a court to try those accused of crimes against humanity, war crimes and violations of both international humanitarian law and domestic laws.

A study by Virginia Page Fortna titled Does Peacekeeping Work? looked directly at the outcomes of peacekeeping in instances of civil war.4

She finds that while on average peacekeeping missions have a lower success rate (defined as continued peace), this is due to a selection effect. The selection effect exists because the decision to intervene is not random — neither is the onset of conflict. Peacekeeping missions are less successful on average because the UN and other peacekeeping organisations only intervene in the most challenging and difficult conflicts. Controlling for these factors, she finds that the presence of peacekeepers reduces the risk of sliding back into civil war by 80 percent. More information on civil wars can be found on the Civil War, Our World in Data page.
 

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Successes as well as failures
In recent years, the peacekeeping operation of the UN in Sierra Leone has become an often cited example of successful peacekeeping. From 1999 to 2005, UN peacekeepers worked in Sierra Leone to stabilise the country during and after the civil war. The main objectives of the mission were to assist in the disarmament and enforce the terms of the Lome Peace Agreement. The UN was also involved in setting up a court to try those accused of crimes against humanity, war crimes and violations of both international humanitarian law and domestic laws.

A study by Virginia Page Fortna titled Does Peacekeeping Work? looked directly at the outcomes of peacekeeping in instances of civil war.4

She finds that while on average peacekeeping missions have a lower success rate (defined as continued peace), this is due to a selection effect. The selection effect exists because the decision to intervene is not random — neither is the onset of conflict. Peacekeeping missions are less successful on average because the UN and other peacekeeping organisations only intervene in the most challenging and difficult conflicts. Controlling for these factors, she finds that the presence of peacekeepers reduces the risk of sliding back into civil war by 80 percent. More information on civil wars can be found on the Civil War, Our World in Data page.
MAJOR fk up by you--NOT a success at all
I quote YOU:
during and after the civil war.
 

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