Unintended Consequences when LIBERALISM takes control.....

[Mikeoxenormous]

^Kindly explain - in detail, and not just "Because Obama" - why you believe the U.S. is similar, if not identical, to Venezuela.

Do your own research, once again, when you have a Socialist like Obama in office, and with central planning the take over of the Healthcare, when there is no longer anyone's else's money to steal from, then that city, county or country goes broke.
Detroit - broke, liberalism a failure.
California - broke - liberalism a failure.
Puerto Rico - broke - liberalism a failure.
Venezuela - broke - liberalism a failure.
America - 19 trillion(9 trillion added by Obama) - almost broke - liberalism a failure.

You one of the dumbest people on the planet thinking that Socialism is the cure all for your lazy ass.

So that is accounting for one side of the equation. It is frankly, a weak argument.

But, let's ask if you can show conservative cities that are thriving.

BTW: Broke ? What does that mean ? Has CA declared bankruptcy ?

As usual, he has no idea what he's talking about:
Economy of California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CA state debt
At least $848 billion
SACRAMENTO (CBS13) – The combined debt of California’s state and local governments is at least $848 billion and could escalate past $1.1 trillion, according to a new report.
Report: California’s Actual Debt At Least $848B; Could ...
sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/05/01/report-califor…

Nothing to see here, move along, move along.....

 

[Sun Devil 92]

^Kindly explain - in detail, and not just "Because Obama" - why you believe the U.S. is similar, if not identical, to Venezuela.

Do your own research, once again, when you have a Socialist like Obama in office, and with central planning the take over of the Healthcare, when there is no longer anyone's else's money to steal from, then that city, county or country goes broke.
Detroit - broke, liberalism a failure.
California - broke - liberalism a failure.
Puerto Rico - broke - liberalism a failure.
Venezuela - broke - liberalism a failure.
America - 19 trillion(9 trillion added by Obama) - almost broke - liberalism a failure.

You one of the dumbest people on the planet thinking that Socialism is the cure all for your lazy ass.

So that is accounting for one side of the equation. It is frankly, a weak argument.

But, let's ask if you can show conservative cities that are thriving.

BTW: Broke ? What does that mean ? Has CA declared bankruptcy ?

As usual, he has no idea what he's talking about:
Economy of California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CA state debt
At least $848 billion
SACRAMENTO (CBS13) – The combined debt of California’s state and local governments is at least $848 billion and could escalate past $1.1 trillion, according to a new report.
Report: California’s Actual Debt At Least $848B; Could ...
sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/05/01/report-califor…

Nothing to see here, move along, move along.....

Relative to the U.S., that seems small.

CA is a huge part of the U.S. and proportinally, I think thier debt might be less than ours.

Is the U.S. broke ?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Since we have a Feckless leader with only a few months left in office, why would Japan, Vietnam and China be building up munitions in the North China Sea? Will a red line be once again drawn in that oriental sand to stop the island building of the Red Army? Or just continue to be a spineless wiener who can use the government to intimidate its own citizens but cower in fear when another government starts to saber rattle?

Exclusive: Vietnam moves new rocket launchers into disputed South China Sea - sources

Diplomats and military officers told Reuters that intelligence shows Hanoi has shipped the launchers from the Vietnamese mainland into position on five bases in the Spratly islands in recent months, a move likely to raise tensions with Beijing.

The launchers have been hidden from aerial surveillance and they have yet to be armed, but could be made operational with rocket artillery rounds within two or three days, according to the three sources.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Since we have a Feckless leader with only a few months left in office, why would Japan, Vietnam and China be building up munitions in the North China Sea? Will a red line be once again drawn in that oriental sand to stop the island building of the Red Army? Or just continue to be a spineless wiener who can use the government to intimidate its own citizens but cower in fear when another government starts to saber rattle?

Exclusive: Vietnam moves new rocket launchers into disputed South China Sea - sources

Diplomats and military officers told Reuters that intelligence shows Hanoi has shipped the launchers from the Vietnamese mainland into position on five bases in the Spratly islands in recent months, a move likely to raise tensions with Beijing.

The launchers have been hidden from aerial surveillance and they have yet to be armed, but could be made operational with rocket artillery rounds within two or three days, according to the three sources.

By the way, if war breaks out over there and spills into America, then Obamacare wont be worth a shit. There I related this unintended consequences with Obamacare.

 

[AnCap'n_Murica]

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC general at one time was a premier hospital, but when Ted Kennedy FORCED all hospital emergency rooms to serve patients whether they could pay or not, the unintended consequences FORCED that Hospital to close. When there were enough patients that could pay, those that couldn't got FREE healthcare. But then those paying patients started to have to pay more so others could continue to get FREE. Pretty soon no more paying patients showed up, and the hospital had to close. Closing a Hospital, and Fearing for the Future

The hospital and its outpatient clinics, owned by the Mercy health care system in St. Louis, was where people in this city of 9,000 turned for everything from sore throats to emergency treatment after a car crash. Now, many say they are worried about what losing Mercy will mean not just for their own health, but for their community’s future.

When you VOTE for liberalism, the unintended consequences of doing that might just end up killing you.

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I quit buying into the idea that the consequences are unintended, years and years ago. The progressives know exactly what they are doing.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC general at one time was a premier hospital, but when Ted Kennedy FORCED all hospital emergency rooms to serve patients whether they could pay or not, the unintended consequences FORCED that Hospital to close. When there were enough patients that could pay, those that couldn't got FREE healthcare. But then those paying patients started to have to pay more so others could continue to get FREE. Pretty soon no more paying patients showed up, and the hospital had to close. Closing a Hospital, and Fearing for the Future

The hospital and its outpatient clinics, owned by the Mercy health care system in St. Louis, was where people in this city of 9,000 turned for everything from sore throats to emergency treatment after a car crash. Now, many say they are worried about what losing Mercy will mean not just for their own health, but for their community’s future.

When you VOTE for liberalism, the unintended consequences of doing that might just end up killing you.

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I quit buying into the idea that the consequences are unintended, years and years ago. The progressives know exactly what they are doing.

In some cases....

In HIllary's case...I think she's just starting to learn the meaning of the word.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC general at one time was a premier hospital, but when Ted Kennedy FORCED all hospital emergency rooms to serve patients whether they could pay or not, the unintended consequences FORCED that Hospital to close. When there were enough patients that could pay, those that couldn't got FREE healthcare. But then those paying patients started to have to pay more so others could continue to get FREE. Pretty soon no more paying patients showed up, and the hospital had to close. Closing a Hospital, and Fearing for the Future

The hospital and its outpatient clinics, owned by the Mercy health care system in St. Louis, was where people in this city of 9,000 turned for everything from sore throats to emergency treatment after a car crash. Now, many say they are worried about what losing Mercy will mean not just for their own health, but for their community’s future.

When you VOTE for liberalism, the unintended consequences of doing that might just end up killing you.

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Aetna decision exposes weaknesses in Obama’s health-care law

Insurance giant Aetna’s decision to stop offering much of its individual coverage through the Affordable Care Act is exposing a problem in President Obama’s signature health-care law that could lead to another fraught political battle in Congress.

There were a select FEW people who believed that Government controlled FORCED healthcare was going to work. They are stupid as Jonathan Gruber explained, they are the liberals, who voted for this shit. Unintended consequences, no way, the liberals love to screw US in their pursuit of Socialist Utopia. Dumbass liberals.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC general at one time was a premier hospital, but when Ted Kennedy FORCED all hospital emergency rooms to serve patients whether they could pay or not, the unintended consequences FORCED that Hospital to close. When there were enough patients that could pay, those that couldn't got FREE healthcare. But then those paying patients started to have to pay more so others could continue to get FREE. Pretty soon no more paying patients showed up, and the hospital had to close. Closing a Hospital, and Fearing for the Future

The hospital and its outpatient clinics, owned by the Mercy health care system in St. Louis, was where people in this city of 9,000 turned for everything from sore throats to emergency treatment after a car crash. Now, many say they are worried about what losing Mercy will mean not just for their own health, but for their community’s future.

When you VOTE for liberalism, the unintended consequences of doing that might just end up killing you.

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Aetna decision exposes weaknesses in Obama’s health-care law

Insurance giant Aetna’s decision to stop offering much of its individual coverage through the Affordable Care Act is exposing a problem in President Obama’s signature health-care law that could lead to another fraught political battle in Congress.

There were a select FEW people who believed that Government controlled FORCED healthcare was going to work. They are stupid as Jonathan Gruber explained, they are the liberals, who voted for this shit. Unintended consequences, no way, the liberals love to screw US in their pursuit of Socialist Utopia. Dumbass liberals.

Please stop confusing the far left with liberalisim.

I detest Bush1's use of the word. Dukakis was not a liberal. He as a leftist (and a crappy one at that).

Liberals don't want government forced programs. They want conversations about things can improve. If government makes sense...it will be self evident.

Leftists want to use government to enforce their form of morality.

Rightists want to do the same....only it's more about what you do in the bedroom and has less to do with your pocketbook.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Well since the term Classical Liberalism, has been Hi Jacked by the far left who call themselves liberals, those liberals/Socialists/Marxists/Communists/Progressives, have every chance they have, ruined the lives of many, while making themselves very rich. Classical Liberalism has morphed into a more conservative movement where limited government would make everyone happy. The Far LEFT nut jobs, can never be happy.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Well since the term Classical Liberalism, has been Hi Jacked by the far left who call themselves liberals, those liberals/Socialists/Marxists/Communists/Progressives, have every chance they have, ruined the lives of many, while making themselves very rich. Classical Liberalism has morphed into a more conservative movement where limited government would make everyone happy. The Far LEFT nut jobs, can never be happy.

Liberals to conservative is acceptable as an argument.

But the far left and far right are not that different. They both want to utilize government to regulate other peopl'es lives.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Well since the term Classical Liberalism, has been Hi Jacked by the far left who call themselves liberals, those liberals/Socialists/Marxists/Communists/Progressives, have every chance they have, ruined the lives of many, while making themselves very rich. Classical Liberalism has morphed into a more conservative movement where limited government would make everyone happy. The Far LEFT nut jobs, can never be happy.

Liberals to conservative is acceptable as an argument.

But the far left and far right are not that different. They both want to utilize government to regulate other peopl'es lives.

I think you are mistaking the liberals that are in both parties. John McCain is such an example of a liberal republican who with Feingold, took away some of our 1st amendment rights, all in the name so he can stay in power. He and other RINO's have been a thorn in the side of this country, then he runs back home and says how much a conservative he is. Problem is the uninformed voters doesn't check and then elects him again.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Well since the term Classical Liberalism, has been Hi Jacked by the far left who call themselves liberals, those liberals/Socialists/Marxists/Communists/Progressives, have every chance they have, ruined the lives of many, while making themselves very rich. Classical Liberalism has morphed into a more conservative movement where limited government would make everyone happy. The Far LEFT nut jobs, can never be happy.

Liberals to conservative is acceptable as an argument.

But the far left and far right are not that different. They both want to utilize government to regulate other peopl'es lives.

I think you are mistaking the liberals that are in both parties. John McCain is such an example of a liberal republican who with Feingold, took away some of our 1st amendment rights, all in the name so he can stay in power. He and other RINO's have been a thorn in the side of this country, then he runs back home and says how much a conservative he is. Problem is the uninformed voters doesn't check and then elects him again.

Feingold want to use government to push his agenda....not a liberal....a leftist.

McCain is a waste of skin and is certainly not a classical liberal.

Why is McCain running again ?

 

[depotoo]

Yep, unintended consequences -

Hispanics have “become a growing share of the uninsured among racial and ethnic groups, rising from 29 percent in 2013 to 40 percent in 2016, more than twice their representation in the overall population,” according to the study. “In contrast, the share of whites has declined, falling from half in 2013 to 41 percent in 2016.”

More Hispanics Uninsured Despite Obamacare Gains

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Yep, unintended consequences -

Hispanics have “become a growing share of the uninsured among racial and ethnic groups, rising from 29 percent in 2013 to 40 percent in 2016, more than twice their representation in the overall population,” according to the study. “In contrast, the share of whites has declined, falling from half in 2013 to 41 percent in 2016.”

More Hispanics Uninsured Despite Obamacare Gains

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC general at one time was a premier hospital, but when Ted Kennedy FORCED all hospital emergency rooms to serve patients whether they could pay or not, the unintended consequences FORCED that Hospital to close. When there were enough patients that could pay, those that couldn't got FREE healthcare. But then those paying patients started to have to pay more so others could continue to get FREE. Pretty soon no more paying patients showed up, and the hospital had to close. Closing a Hospital, and Fearing for the Future

The hospital and its outpatient clinics, owned by the Mercy health care system in St. Louis, was where people in this city of 9,000 turned for everything from sore throats to emergency treatment after a car crash. Now, many say they are worried about what losing Mercy will mean not just for their own health, but for their community’s future.

When you VOTE for liberalism, the unintended consequences of doing that might just end up killing you.

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Minnesota could be the first Obamacare domino to fall

That was then; this is now. On Wednesday, Dayton declared the status of the individual insurance market an “emergency” and that the Affordable Care Act was an oxymoron. “Ultimately, the reality is that the Affordable Care Act is no longer affordable for an increasing number of people,” Dayton told the media. Dayton’s remarks came a week after Bill Clinton admitted that Obamacare was “the craziest thing in the world,” and that consumers “wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half.”

I think Jonathan Gruber said it best about the Liberal Voter.

Obamacare advisor thinks voters are 'stupid' (Opinion) - CNN.com

It's a very clever, you know, basic exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the Liberal American voter," he tells the Honors Colloquium 2012 at the University of Rhode Island.

I inserted the Liberal because the Conservatives KNEW how bad the unaffordable care act was going to be. The liberals deserve all the misery that Obama is FORCING upon them. Elections do have consequences.

 

[jon_berzerk]

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC General Hospital Closing Is National Catastrophe

DC general at one time was a premier hospital, but when Ted Kennedy FORCED all hospital emergency rooms to serve patients whether they could pay or not, the unintended consequences FORCED that Hospital to close. When there were enough patients that could pay, those that couldn't got FREE healthcare. But then those paying patients started to have to pay more so others could continue to get FREE. Pretty soon no more paying patients showed up, and the hospital had to close. Closing a Hospital, and Fearing for the Future

The hospital and its outpatient clinics, owned by the Mercy health care system in St. Louis, was where people in this city of 9,000 turned for everything from sore throats to emergency treatment after a car crash. Now, many say they are worried about what losing Mercy will mean not just for their own health, but for their community’s future.

When you VOTE for liberalism, the unintended consequences of doing that might just end up killing you.

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Minnesota could be the first Obamacare domino to fall

That was then; this is now. On Wednesday, Dayton declared the status of the individual insurance market an “emergency” and that the Affordable Care Act was an oxymoron. “Ultimately, the reality is that the Affordable Care Act is no longer affordable for an increasing number of people,” Dayton told the media. Dayton’s remarks came a week after Bill Clinton admitted that Obamacare was “the craziest thing in the world,” and that consumers “wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half.”

I think Jonathan Gruber said it best about the Liberal Voter.

Obamacare advisor thinks voters are 'stupid' (Opinion) - CNN.com

It's a very clever, you know, basic exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the Liberal American voter," he tells the Honors Colloquium 2012 at the University of Rhode Island.

I inserted the Liberal because the Conservatives KNEW how bad the unaffordable care act was going to be. The liberals deserve all the misery that Obama is FORCING upon them. Elections do have consequences.

Dayton

--LOL dayton is one of the biggest progressive of all

who supported this failure to begin with

the good folks of MN should run him outta town on a rail

it is funny how these fuckers push for such messes

then cry about the results

and the need $$$$ to fix it

 

[Arianrhod]

Just to cut through some of the rampant ignorance in this thread, it was the Great God Reagan who signed the EMTALA into law.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Just to cut through some of the rampant ignorance in this thread, it was the Great God Reagan who signed the EMTALA into law.

Are you really as stupid as you make yourself or are you just trolling for effect? I guess you didn't see the domino effect that is starting in Minnesota? No big deal when it hits you, I guess you will blame Reagan for that also? Such dumbasses who have their heads up in Uranus.

 

[Arianrhod]

Just to cut through some of the rampant ignorance in this thread, it was the Great God Reagan who signed the EMTALA into law.

Are you really as stupid as you make yourself or are you just trolling for effect? I guess you didn't see the domino effect that is starting in Minnesota? No big deal when it hits you, I guess you will blame Reagan for that also? Such dumbasses who have their heads up in Uranus.

Are you denying that Reagan signed the EMTALA, making ER care mandatory nationwide, not just in Minnesota?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Just to cut through some of the rampant ignorance in this thread, it was the Great God Reagan who signed the EMTALA into law.

Are you really as stupid as you make yourself or are you just trolling for effect? I guess you didn't see the domino effect that is starting in Minnesota? No big deal when it hits you, I guess you will blame Reagan for that also? Such dumbasses who have their heads up in Uranus.

Wait for it.

Soon it will ask you if you need help signing up for an overpriced bronze plan.