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[Lipush]

It is easy to see why the Israelis will never live in peace. They are maniacs.

You declare war on the Jews, the Jews respond accordingly.

The European Jews declared war on the native people of Palestine by invading and colonizing the place. You people have a strange conception of reality. Should the Muslims and Christians have meekly accepted the Jew takeover without resisting?

Jew takeover? the 1948 resolution was talking about equaly sharing the land. The "native" (and "native" I say since the real native of 'Palestine' were both the Jews and Arabs of the land at the time, not what Anti-Zionists try to say like Jews just fell out of nowhere in the 50's) people wanted to genocide the Jews, started out a war and failed.

Sorry we won. Or not.

 

[Lipush]

 

[louie888]

It is easy to see why the Israelis will never live in peace. They are maniacs.

You declare war on the Jews, the Jews respond accordingly.

The European Jews declared war on the native people of Palestine by invading and colonizing the place. You people have a strange conception of reality. Should the Muslims and Christians have meekly accepted the Jew takeover without resisting?

Jew takeover? the 1948 resolution was talking about equaly sharing the land. The "native" (and "native" I say since the real native of 'Palestine' were both the Jews and Arabs of the land at the time, not what Anti-Zionists try to say like Jews just fell out of nowhere in the 50's) people wanted to genocide the Jews, started out a war and failed.

Sorry we won. Or not.

It was not even equal as a majority of Palestine went to the European immigrants.

 

[Lipush]

It was more equal to them than to US. Balfour declaration was supposed to be the base. Factually, the Jews stayed with less than half of what was originally offered.

 

[montelatici]

It is easy to see why the Israelis will never live in peace. They are maniacs.

You declare war on the Jews, the Jews respond accordingly.

The European Jews declared war on the native people of Palestine by invading and colonizing the place. You people have a strange conception of reality. Should the Muslims and Christians have meekly accepted the Jew takeover without resisting?

Jew takeover? the 1948 resolution was talking about equaly sharing the land. The "native" (and "native" I say since the real native of 'Palestine' were both the Jews and Arabs of the land at the time, not what Anti-Zionists try to say like Jews just fell out of nowhere in the 50's) people wanted to genocide the Jews, started out a war and failed.

Sorry we won. Or not.

Sharing the land? The Muslims and Christians were living in Palestine and they were living on the land and still were two thirds of the population, yet they received less than half of the land. And a third of the Muslims and Christians, numbering about the same as the colonists from Europe were left in the land given to European colonists, and would never have achieved seldf-determination. The Jews started the war to take over even more territory, as an example they laid seige to Jaffa (an Arab city in the Arab partition) months before the partition became effective and the city had surrendered to the Jews before Israel declared independence.

When demographics make it impossible for the Jews to continue their minority rule over non-Jews and the solution is either a South African or Rhodesian one, will you say, "sorry they won". LOL

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Since this thread is about the UNESCO decision concerning the Tomb of the Patriarchs, I am copying verbatim an excellent article written by a chap named Justin Amler. Here goes:

Why the Palestinians "Care" About Jewish Holy Sites

The reason the Palestinians try to claim Hebron as their own, just as they try to claim Jerusalem as their own, or the Temple Mount as their own, is really quite simple. They have nothing of their own to claim! They have no ancient history in the Land of Israel. They have no tombs of ancient Palestinian forefathers. They have no archaeological evidence of Palestinian cities or temples. They have no books or songs or literature. They have no documented references of anything. Even Jerusalem is not mentioned ONCE in their Quran.

All these efforts in the U.N. or UNESCO to claim Jewish holy sites is for 2 reasons alone:
1) To delegitimize the history of the Jews to the Land of Israel and sever their ancient connection.

2) To supplant that well documented history and replace it with a fictitious fairy-tale giving some kind of legitimacy to a people who didn't exist, in a country that never was.

The support they receive in these world bodies has got nothing to do with historical accuracy, and everything to do with attitudes towards Jews.

There is a reason that the new Palestinian Museum sits atop a lonely hill, quiet and empty, where the only sound that can be heard is the whistling of the wind as it dances around the empty spaces and hallways. There is nothing to show because...well...there is NOTHING to show.

 

[montelatici]

Since this thread is about the UNESCO decision concerning the Tomb of the Patriarchs, I am copying verbatim an excellent article written by a chap named Justin Amler. Here goes:

Why the Palestinians "Care" About Jewish Holy Sites

The reason the Palestinians try to claim Hebron as their own, just as they try to claim Jerusalem as their own, or the Temple Mount as their own, is really quite simple. They have nothing of their own to claim! They have no ancient history in the Land of Israel. They have no tombs of ancient Palestinian forefathers. They have no archaeological evidence of Palestinian cities or temples. They have no books or songs or literature. They have no documented references of anything. Even Jerusalem is not mentioned ONCE in their Quran.

All these efforts in the U.N. or UNESCO to claim Jewish holy sites is for 2 reasons alone:
1) To delegitimize the history of the Jews to the Land of Israel and sever their ancient connection.

2) To supplant that well documented history and replace it with a fictitious fairy-tale giving some kind of legitimacy to a people who didn't exist, in a country that never was.

The support they receive in these world bodies has got nothing to do with historical accuracy, and everything to do with attitudes towards Jews.

There is a reason that the new Palestinian Museum sits atop a lonely hill, quiet and empty, where the only sound that can be heard is the whistling of the wind as it dances around the empty spaces and hallways. There is nothing to show because...well...there is NOTHING to show.

Hilarious to read that the Palestinians don't exist then in the same breath the claim that these people who don't exist are trying to delegitimize the Jews.

Does the UNESCO award of historical status to the Hajia Sophia delegitimize the Greek Orthodox?

It was more equal to them than to US. Balfour declaration was supposed to be the base. Factually, the Jews stayed with less than half of what was originally offered.

What right did the British have to colonize Palestine with Europeans?

 

[Lipush]

Since this thread is about the UNESCO decision concerning the Tomb of the Patriarchs, I am copying verbatim an excellent article written by a chap named Justin Amler. Here goes:

Why the Palestinians "Care" About Jewish Holy Sites

The reason the Palestinians try to claim Hebron as their own, just as they try to claim Jerusalem as their own, or the Temple Mount as their own, is really quite simple. They have nothing of their own to claim! They have no ancient history in the Land of Israel. They have no tombs of ancient Palestinian forefathers. They have no archaeological evidence of Palestinian cities or temples. They have no books or songs or literature. They have no documented references of anything. Even Jerusalem is not mentioned ONCE in their Quran.

All these efforts in the U.N. or UNESCO to claim Jewish holy sites is for 2 reasons alone:
1) To delegitimize the history of the Jews to the Land of Israel and sever their ancient connection.

2) To supplant that well documented history and replace it with a fictitious fairy-tale giving some kind of legitimacy to a people who didn't exist, in a country that never was.

The support they receive in these world bodies has got nothing to do with historical accuracy, and everything to do with attitudes towards Jews.

There is a reason that the new Palestinian Museum sits atop a lonely hill, quiet and empty, where the only sound that can be heard is the whistling of the wind as it dances around the empty spaces and hallways. There is nothing to show because...well...there is NOTHING to show.

Hilarious to read that the Palestinians don't exist then in the same breath the claim that these people who don't exist are trying to delegitimize the Jews.

Does the UNESCO award of historical status to the Hajia Sophia delegitimize the Greek Orthodox?

It was more equal to them than to US. Balfour declaration was supposed to be the base. Factually, the Jews stayed with less than half of what was originally offered.

What right did the British have to colonize Palestine with Europeans?

What right did the British people have over Falkland, the Turks over Cyprus and the Pakistanis over Kashmir? Newsflash, people take over lands, leave lands, create states. This is how the world works. This is the cost of doing business.

 

[fanger]

In this case, Jewish illegal immigrants took over

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Since this thread is about the UNESCO decision concerning the Tomb of the Patriarchs, I am copying verbatim an excellent article written by a chap named Justin Amler. Here goes:

Why the Palestinians "Care" About Jewish Holy Sites

The reason the Palestinians try to claim Hebron as their own, just as they try to claim Jerusalem as their own, or the Temple Mount as their own, is really quite simple. They have nothing of their own to claim! They have no ancient history in the Land of Israel. They have no tombs of ancient Palestinian forefathers. They have no archaeological evidence of Palestinian cities or temples. They have no books or songs or literature. They have no documented references of anything. Even Jerusalem is not mentioned ONCE in their Quran.

All these efforts in the U.N. or UNESCO to claim Jewish holy sites is for 2 reasons alone:
1) To delegitimize the history of the Jews to the Land of Israel and sever their ancient connection.

2) To supplant that well documented history and replace it with a fictitious fairy-tale giving some kind of legitimacy to a people who didn't exist, in a country that never was.

The support they receive in these world bodies has got nothing to do with historical accuracy, and everything to do with attitudes towards Jews.

There is a reason that the new Palestinian Museum sits atop a lonely hill, quiet and empty, where the only sound that can be heard is the whistling of the wind as it dances around the empty spaces and hallways. There is nothing to show because...well...there is NOTHING to show.

Hilarious to read that the Palestinians don't exist then in the same breath the claim that these people who don't exist are trying to delegitimize the Jews.

Does the UNESCO award of historical status to the Hajia Sophia delegitimize the Greek Orthodox?

It was more equal to them than to US. Balfour declaration was supposed to be the base. Factually, the Jews stayed with less than half of what was originally offered.

What right did the British have to colonize Palestine with Europeans?

OK, Arabs who are calling themselves Palestinians for the time being. And would you care to tell us why the Palestinian Museum is empty?

 

[montelatici]

Since this thread is about the UNESCO decision concerning the Tomb of the Patriarchs, I am copying verbatim an excellent article written by a chap named Justin Amler. Here goes:

Why the Palestinians "Care" About Jewish Holy Sites

The reason the Palestinians try to claim Hebron as their own, just as they try to claim Jerusalem as their own, or the Temple Mount as their own, is really quite simple. They have nothing of their own to claim! They have no ancient history in the Land of Israel. They have no tombs of ancient Palestinian forefathers. They have no archaeological evidence of Palestinian cities or temples. They have no books or songs or literature. They have no documented references of anything. Even Jerusalem is not mentioned ONCE in their Quran.

All these efforts in the U.N. or UNESCO to claim Jewish holy sites is for 2 reasons alone:
1) To delegitimize the history of the Jews to the Land of Israel and sever their ancient connection.

2) To supplant that well documented history and replace it with a fictitious fairy-tale giving some kind of legitimacy to a people who didn't exist, in a country that never was.

The support they receive in these world bodies has got nothing to do with historical accuracy, and everything to do with attitudes towards Jews.

There is a reason that the new Palestinian Museum sits atop a lonely hill, quiet and empty, where the only sound that can be heard is the whistling of the wind as it dances around the empty spaces and hallways. There is nothing to show because...well...there is NOTHING to show.

Hilarious to read that the Palestinians don't exist then in the same breath the claim that these people who don't exist are trying to delegitimize the Jews.

Does the UNESCO award of historical status to the Hajia Sophia delegitimize the Greek Orthodox?

It was more equal to them than to US. Balfour declaration was supposed to be the base. Factually, the Jews stayed with less than half of what was originally offered.

What right did the British have to colonize Palestine with Europeans?

What right did the British people have over Falkland, the Turks over Cyprus and the Pakistanis over Kashmir? Newsflash, people take over lands, leave lands, create states. This is how the world works. This is the cost of doing business.

Exactly, what right did they have? By the way, it's the Indians that are occupying 65% of predominately Muslim Kashmir.

What happens when the native population remains in large numbers is that the descendants of the colonists are eventually overwhelmed demographically and the native people get there land back. That's the cost of colonialism.

 

[louie888]

...would you care to tell us why the Palestinian Museum is empty?

We have a whole thread on this, foreverdumb.

BREAKING: Countless Palestinian Photos and Films Buried in Israeli Archives

 

[Lipush]

In this case, Jewish illegal immigrants took over

The correct definition of this, the Jewish native people of the land won a war that their enemies were stupid enough to start.

 

[montelatici]

Since this thread is about the UNESCO decision concerning the Tomb of the Patriarchs, I am copying verbatim an excellent article written by a chap named Justin Amler. Here goes:

Why the Palestinians "Care" About Jewish Holy Sites

The reason the Palestinians try to claim Hebron as their own, just as they try to claim Jerusalem as their own, or the Temple Mount as their own, is really quite simple. They have nothing of their own to claim! They have no ancient history in the Land of Israel. They have no tombs of ancient Palestinian forefathers. They have no archaeological evidence of Palestinian cities or temples. They have no books or songs or literature. They have no documented references of anything. Even Jerusalem is not mentioned ONCE in their Quran.

All these efforts in the U.N. or UNESCO to claim Jewish holy sites is for 2 reasons alone:
1) To delegitimize the history of the Jews to the Land of Israel and sever their ancient connection.

2) To supplant that well documented history and replace it with a fictitious fairy-tale giving some kind of legitimacy to a people who didn't exist, in a country that never was.

The support they receive in these world bodies has got nothing to do with historical accuracy, and everything to do with attitudes towards Jews.

There is a reason that the new Palestinian Museum sits atop a lonely hill, quiet and empty, where the only sound that can be heard is the whistling of the wind as it dances around the empty spaces and hallways. There is nothing to show because...well...there is NOTHING to show.

Hilarious to read that the Palestinians don't exist then in the same breath the claim that these people who don't exist are trying to delegitimize the Jews.

Does the UNESCO award of historical status to the Hajia Sophia delegitimize the Greek Orthodox?

It was more equal to them than to US. Balfour declaration was supposed to be the base. Factually, the Jews stayed with less than half of what was originally offered.

What right did the British have to colonize Palestine with Europeans?

OK, Arabs who are calling themselves Palestinians for the time being. And would you care to tell us why the Palestinian Museum is empty?

Why do you think it's empty? Do you think that if they had the money the Palestinian wouldn't include items from their rich history from Canaanite times (pre-Jewish), thru the Christian period and the Muslim periods interspersed with the relics from the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem?

 

[Lipush]

Since this thread is about the UNESCO decision concerning the Tomb of the Patriarchs, I am copying verbatim an excellent article written by a chap named Justin Amler. Here goes:

Why the Palestinians "Care" About Jewish Holy Sites

The reason the Palestinians try to claim Hebron as their own, just as they try to claim Jerusalem as their own, or the Temple Mount as their own, is really quite simple. They have nothing of their own to claim! They have no ancient history in the Land of Israel. They have no tombs of ancient Palestinian forefathers. They have no archaeological evidence of Palestinian cities or temples. They have no books or songs or literature. They have no documented references of anything. Even Jerusalem is not mentioned ONCE in their Quran.

All these efforts in the U.N. or UNESCO to claim Jewish holy sites is for 2 reasons alone:
1) To delegitimize the history of the Jews to the Land of Israel and sever their ancient connection.

2) To supplant that well documented history and replace it with a fictitious fairy-tale giving some kind of legitimacy to a people who didn't exist, in a country that never was.

The support they receive in these world bodies has got nothing to do with historical accuracy, and everything to do with attitudes towards Jews.

There is a reason that the new Palestinian Museum sits atop a lonely hill, quiet and empty, where the only sound that can be heard is the whistling of the wind as it dances around the empty spaces and hallways. There is nothing to show because...well...there is NOTHING to show.

Hilarious to read that the Palestinians don't exist then in the same breath the claim that these people who don't exist are trying to delegitimize the Jews.

Does the UNESCO award of historical status to the Hajia Sophia delegitimize the Greek Orthodox?

It was more equal to them than to US. Balfour declaration was supposed to be the base. Factually, the Jews stayed with less than half of what was originally offered.

What right did the British have to colonize Palestine with Europeans?

What right did the British people have over Falkland, the Turks over Cyprus and the Pakistanis over Kashmir? Newsflash, people take over lands, leave lands, create states. This is how the world works. This is the cost of doing business.

Exactly, what right did they have? By the way, it's the Indians that are occupying 65% of predominately Muslim Kashmir.

What happens when the native population remains in large numbers is that the descendants of the colonists are eventually overwhelmed demographically and the native people get there land back. That's the cost of colonialism.

My grandmother family worked the mud of this land since 1883. What right do any of you to call her family "illegal immigrants"?

There's a saying that if you repeat a lie enough times, you'll start believing in in. Well nonsense is not gonna stick, if you ask me.

As I said before, thousands of Israeli babies are born in Jerusalem every day. But any normal view, they're natives' just like the "Palestinians". Your calling to kick them out is basically saying that two wrongs make a right. That's also not gonna stick.

 

[montelatici]

In this case, Jewish illegal immigrants took over

The correct definition of this, the Jewish native people of the land won a war that their enemies were stupid enough to start.

The colonists were from Europe. They weren't native to the Middle East. The war was started by the Jewish invasion you idiot.

 

[Lipush]

You know there are Sepharadic Mizrahi Jews as well, or are you misinformed? And you calling names doesn't help your argument at all.

 

[fanger]

Since this thread is about the UNESCO decision concerning the Tomb of the Patriarchs, I am copying verbatim an excellent article written by a chap named Justin Amler. Here goes:

Why the Palestinians "Care" About Jewish Holy Sites

The reason the Palestinians try to claim Hebron as their own, just as they try to claim Jerusalem as their own, or the Temple Mount as their own, is really quite simple. They have nothing of their own to claim! They have no ancient history in the Land of Israel. They have no tombs of ancient Palestinian forefathers. They have no archaeological evidence of Palestinian cities or temples. They have no books or songs or literature. They have no documented references of anything. Even Jerusalem is not mentioned ONCE in their Quran.

All these efforts in the U.N. or UNESCO to claim Jewish holy sites is for 2 reasons alone:
1) To delegitimize the history of the Jews to the Land of Israel and sever their ancient connection.

2) To supplant that well documented history and replace it with a fictitious fairy-tale giving some kind of legitimacy to a people who didn't exist, in a country that never was.

The support they receive in these world bodies has got nothing to do with historical accuracy, and everything to do with attitudes towards Jews.

There is a reason that the new Palestinian Museum sits atop a lonely hill, quiet and empty, where the only sound that can be heard is the whistling of the wind as it dances around the empty spaces and hallways. There is nothing to show because...well...there is NOTHING to show.

Hilarious to read that the Palestinians don't exist then in the same breath the claim that these people who don't exist are trying to delegitimize the Jews.

Does the UNESCO award of historical status to the Hajia Sophia delegitimize the Greek Orthodox?

It was more equal to them than to US. Balfour declaration was supposed to be the base. Factually, the Jews stayed with less than half of what was originally offered.

What right did the British have to colonize Palestine with Europeans?

What right did the British people have over Falkland, the Turks over Cyprus and the Pakistanis over Kashmir? Newsflash, people take over lands, leave lands, create states. This is how the world works. This is the cost of doing business.

Exactly, what right did they have? By the way, it's the Indians that are occupying 65% of predominately Muslim Kashmir.

What happens when the native population remains in large numbers is that the descendants of the colonists are eventually overwhelmed demographically and the native people get there land back. That's the cost of colonialism.

My grandmother family worked the mud of this land since 1883. What right do any of you to call her family "illegal immigrants"?

There's a saying that if you repeat a lie enough times, you'll start believing in in. Well nonsense is not gonna stick, if you ask me.

As I said before, thousands of Israeli babies are born in Jerusalem every day. But any normal view, they're natives' just like the "Palestinians". Your calling to kick them out is basically saying that two wrongs make a right. That's also not gonna stick.

Your Adopted grandmother may have worked in Palestine, but the Illegal immigrants from Europe took over by force of Arms

 

[Lipush]

What exactly made those immigrants "illegal"?

 

[fanger]

What exactly made those immigrants "illegal"?

Aliyah Bet was the code name given to illegal immigration by Jews to Mandatory Palestine in violation of British White Paper of 1939 restrictions, in the years 1934 to 1948. In modern-day Israel it has also been called by the Hebrew term Ha'pala (Hebrew: הַעְפָּלָה‎; ascension). The Aliyah Bet is distinguished from the Aliyah Aleph ("Aliyah 'A'", Aleph being the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet): the limited Jewish immigration permitted by British authorities in the same period.
Aliyah Bet - Wikipedia

Aliyah Bet (1939-1948)

In the 1920s, the British had already acceded to Arab demands and restricted immigration into Palestine, ostensibly on the basis of considerations of the country's economic absorptive capacity. In the 1930s, the British Government fixed a quota for immigration certificates and authorized the Jewish Agency to distribute them at its discretion. The Agency, which was dominated at the time by the socialist parties, tended to distribute the certificates to graduates of the 'hakhsharot' (training kibbutzim), which had been set up in Europe to prepare young people for life in communal agricultural settlements in Eretz Israel. The distribution was based on a key agreed among the various movements affiliated to the Zionist Organization. The Betar youth movement had been affiliated since 1935 to the New Zionist Organization, and therefore did not receive its due share of certificates.

The urgent plight of European Jewry and the restrictions on immigration generated an "illegal" immigration movement, which commenced with the beginning of modern Jewish settlement in Eretz Israel. At first Jews entered Palestine by land, mainly by slipping across the northern border, where they were aided by the inhabitants of the border settlements, the settlers at Kfar Giladi and members of the Betar battalion at Rosh Pina.

In the early thirties, when crossing the northern border became more difficult, illegal immigrants found alternative routes, exploiting loopholes in the Mandatory government's immigration regulations. In addition to the certificate holders, the British permitted the entry of high-school and university students, and many young people enrolled at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and subsequently remained in the country. Young women often entered into fictitious marriages with Palestinian nationals and were thus permitted to enter the country. In addition, increasing numbers arrived as "tourists" and never returned to their countries of origin. In 1935, close to 5,000 Jews entered the country in this way.
THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OF THE IRGUN

They forced their way in, they should have been sent back, as happens to illegal african immigrants in israel today, imagine a time when they come as so many and take over israel, would you fight back?