UN calls on Israel to lift Gaza blockade

Palestinians are subject to many violations of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
That's OK.

Given their suicide-bombing campaigns and rocket-barrage campaigns against Israeli civilian populations over the past couple of decades, I'm sure the Palestinians have also violated the Universal Declaration of Human Rights often enough, so, it all evens-out in the end.
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Not exactly.

"Israelis and Palestinians Killed
in the Current Violence

At least 1,104 Israelis and 6,836 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000."

Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9/29/2000
Only a 6-to-1 or 7-to-1 Kill Ratio for the Israelis?

They're slippin'...
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Yes they did. At the time Zionists stood up and unilaterally declared Israel a sovereign nation, they only owned 7% of the land rights. And I'm pretty sure they didn't ask the indigenous arabs in that area if they cared to vote on it? And I'll say this again, because it deserves repeating, there was no major incidents of violence (or hostility) between Palestinian-jews and Palestinian-arabs, until the Zionist migrations began.
And that's prima facia evidence that the genesis of the hostility, began with the Zionists.
Yeah, right.
 
Billo_Really. et al,

This was in 1948.

Yes they did. At the time Zionists stood up and unilaterally declared Israel a sovereign nation, they only owned 7% of the land rights. And I'm pretty sure they didn't ask the indigenous arabs in that area if they cared to vote on it?
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It was NOT, as you say, unilateral. It was done in accordance with the implementation instruction of the UNPC, under the Steps Preparatory to Independence, pursuant to and in conformity with the recommendations of the General Assembly, and the guidance of the Security Council. The Arab Higher Committee (representing the indigenous arabs) was invited to the UNPC implementation meetings before Independence was declared, but declined. There was no "vote" required.


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The "genesis of the hostility" is much closer to the HAMAS description:

Excerpt Article 7 said:
The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the links in the chain of the struggle against the Zionist invaders. It goes back to 1939, to the emergence of the martyr Izz al-Din al Kissam and his brethren the fighters, members of Moslem Brotherhood. It goes on to reach out and become one with another chain that includes the struggle of the Palestinians and Moslem Brotherhood in the 1948 war and the Jihad operations of the Moslem Brotherhood in 1968 and after.

SOURCE: Hamas Covenant 1988

Whether this is a prima facie case against the "immigrant" as you contend, or an admission of culpability on the part of HoAPs, is subjective. However, it is evidence that there is more than one perspective to consider on the question, even when looking from the HoAP side. It is my opinion that the discord between the two cultures has its origins, at least in part to, a failure to follow the advice of Asher Ginsberg (AKA: Ahad HaÂ’am) that Jewish settlers must make every attempt not to arouse the wrath of the indigenous population.

Most Respectfully,
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This was in 1920

"In 1920, the League of Nations' Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine stated that there were hardly 700,000 people living in Palestine:

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ. Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages.

"Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems.

"A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race.

"Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

"The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000.

"Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years.

"Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews.

"In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil.

"After the persecutions in Russia forty years ago, the movement of the Jews to Palestine assumed larger proportions.

"Jewish agricultural colonies were founded.

"They developed the culture of oranges and gave importance to the Jaffa orange trade.

"They cultivated the vine, and manufactured and exported wine. They drained swamps. They planted eucalyptus trees. They practised, with modern methods, all the processes of agriculture.

"There are at the present time 64 of these settlements, large and small, with a population of some 15,000."

Demographics of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rocco... would you care to speculate on what covenants Hamas will be posting in 2020 if the Zionist policy of "creeping annexation" remains in force in Palestine?
Universal declaration of human rights?
 
That's OK.

Given their suicide-bombing campaigns and rocket-barrage campaigns against Israeli civilian populations over the past couple of decades, I'm sure the Palestinians have also violated the Universal Declaration of Human Rights often enough, so, it all evens-out in the end.
wink_smile.gif
Not exactly.

"Israelis and Palestinians Killed
in the Current Violence

At least 1,104 Israelis and 6,836 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000."

Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9/29/2000
Only a 6-to-1 or 7-to-1 Kill Ratio for the Israelis?

They're slippin'...
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Jews are much better at killing children.

"The Impact of the Conflict
on Children

129 Israeli children and 1,519 Palestinian children
have been killed since September 29, 2000."

Aren't you proud?

Palestinian and Israeli Children Killed
 
"...Jews are much better at killing children..."
Correction.

Jews are much better at killing Arabs, than Arabs are at killing Jews, even though the Arabs stupidly pick fights all the time, then get their asses kicked.

Arab hostility towards the Jews is directly responsible for the Jews attaining such a grisly competency.

In the case of the Palestinians, children-as-casualties are a natural result of Hamas and Hezbollah et al intentionally embedding their militia-troop and operational bases and leadership and war-assets amongst their civilian populations so as to discourage attack.

When the Jews of Israel are provoked beyind endurance, they hit back, and they hit back much harder than the Arabs would like, and children become part of the collateral casualty demographic.

Tragic.

If Hamas and Hezbollah had the balls to stay away from their civilian populations, we would not see a larger-than-necessary chlid-casualty demographic over time.

Stop being Chickenshit and get away from your civilians, and very few children will die.

Stop the suicide missions and rocket barranges and no children will die from hostile fire collateral damage.

The Palestinians have a choice.

They continue to choose poorly.
 
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"...Jews are much better at killing children..."
Correction.

Jews are much better at killing Arabs, than Arabs are at killing Jews, even though the Arabs stupidly pick fights all the time, then get their asses kicked.

Arab hostility towards the Jews is directly responsible for the Jews attaining such a grisly competency.

In the case of the Palestinians, children-as-casualties are a natural result of Hamas and Hezbollah et al intentionally embedding their militia-troop and operational bases and leadership and war-assets amongst their civilian populations so as to discourage attack.

When the Jews of Israel are provoked beyind endurance, they hit back, and they hit back much harder than the Arabs would like, and children become part of the collateral casualty demographic.

Tragic.

If Hamas and Hezbollah had the balls to stay away from their civilian populations, we would not see a larger-than-necessary chlid-casualty demographic over time.

Stop being Chickenshit and get away from your civilians, and very few children will die.

Stop the suicide missions and rocket barranges and no children will die from hostile fire collateral damage.

The Palestinians have a choice.

They continue to choose poorly.
Pig-shit.
Jews kill kids to terrorize their parents.


"“The majority of these [Palestinian] children were killed and injured while going about normal daily activities, such as going to school, playing, shopping, or simply being in their homes. Sixty-four percent of children killed during the first six months of 2003 died as a result of Israeli air and ground attacks, or from indiscriminate fire from Israeli soldiers.”

- Catherine Cook


"Source: Remember These Children, a coalition of groups calling for an end to the killing of children and a fair resolution of the conflict. (View the complete list of the victims, which was last updated on May 13, 2013.)

"It appears that Remember These Children has not yet documented a number of the Palestinian children killed during Israel's Dec 27, 2008 - Jan 18, 2009 assault on Gaza. They report only 269 of the Palestinian children killed during that time (and an additional 9 who later died from wounds inflicted during that time period).

"B'Tselem has documented that Israel killed 318 Palestinian children in Gaza during this time. We do not doubt the validity of this higher number as they are extremely careful in their documentation."

Palestinian and Israeli Children Killed
 
Jews kill kids to terrorize their parents.
"“The majority of these [Palestinian] children were killed and injured while going about normal daily activities, such as going to school, playing, shopping, or simply being in their homes. Sixty-four percent of children killed during the first six months of 2003 died as a result of Israeli air and ground attacks, or from indiscriminate fire from Israeli soldiers.”
- Catherine Cook
Kooky, indeed.
 
"...Pig-shit. Jews kill kids to terrorize their parents.

"“The majority of these [Palestinian] children were killed and injured while going about normal daily activities, such as going to school, playing, shopping, or simply being in their homes. Sixty-four percent of children killed during the first six months of 2003 died as a result of Israeli air and ground attacks, or from indiscriminate fire from Israeli soldiers.”

- Catherine Cook ...
No doubt, the majority of Palestinian children were killed while going about normal daily activities or simply being in their homes.

Now, tell us, Catherine Cook, what where those Israeli airstrikes and ground-fire AIMING AT when those children died?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, how CLOSE to those children WERE those aiming points?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, WHY were those aiming points positioned so close to those children?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, SHOULD those aiming points have been positioned so close to those children?

Finally, tell us, Catherine Cook, WHO was responsible for positioning those aiming points so close to those children?
 
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RoccoR said:
The Hostile Arab Palestinian has forfeited some of these rights by their actions they have taken and the outcomes that resulted.

Link?
 
"...Pig-shit. Jews kill kids to terrorize their parents.

"“The majority of these [Palestinian] children were killed and injured while going about normal daily activities, such as going to school, playing, shopping, or simply being in their homes. Sixty-four percent of children killed during the first six months of 2003 died as a result of Israeli air and ground attacks, or from indiscriminate fire from Israeli soldiers.”

- Catherine Cook ...
No doubt, the majority of Palestinian children were killed while going about normal daily activities or simply being in their homes.

Now, tell us, Catherine Cook, what where those Israeli airstrikes and ground-fire AIMING AT when those children died?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, how CLOSE to those children WERE those aiming points?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, WHY were those aiming points positioned so close to those children?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, SHOULD those aiming points have been positioned so close to those children?

Finally, tell us, Catherine Cook, WHO was responsible for positioning those aiming points so close to those children?
Let's ask Alison, Gabby:

"Giffords, of course, wasnÂ’t the only victim of the Tucson shooting; 14 were injured and six were killed. It is deeply saddening to read about the dead and to imagine the unending grief for their survivors. /19/

"It is particularly difficult to view the sweet, smiling picture of nine-year-old Christina Taylor Green, knowing that her bright life is no longer before her.

"It is equally tragic to read of nine-year-old Akaber, killed by Israeli gunfire to her head while riding in her uncleÂ’s car to get medical stitches removed, and of the 29 other nine-year-olds killed by Israeli forces in the past decade, eight of them by Israeli gunfire to the head.

"It is too late for Akabar, Diya, Mohammed, Tom, and the multitude of others. But there is hope that Gabrielle Giffords is going to survive. Let us pray that she recovers fully, that she is able to return to Congress, and that she then works to prevent others ? including Palestinians ? from being shot in the head.

"We have better uses for our money than to fund atrocities."

Get it, Gabby?
Teen-aged Jews who've been indoctrinated all their lives to view Arabs as animals sit in sniper towers and POP any kid they feel like, knowing good kosher Gabbys will apologize for their crimes. Ready for the best part, G...US tax dollars make it all happen


Shot in the Head » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
 
"...Pig-shit. Jews kill kids to terrorize their parents.

"“The majority of these [Palestinian] children were killed and injured while going about normal daily activities, such as going to school, playing, shopping, or simply being in their homes. Sixty-four percent of children killed during the first six months of 2003 died as a result of Israeli air and ground attacks, or from indiscriminate fire from Israeli soldiers.”

- Catherine Cook ...
No doubt, the majority of Palestinian children were killed while going about normal daily activities or simply being in their homes.

Now, tell us, Catherine Cook, what where those Israeli airstrikes and ground-fire AIMING AT when those children died?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, how CLOSE to those children WERE those aiming points?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, WHY were those aiming points positioned so close to those children?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, SHOULD those aiming points have been positioned so close to those children?

Finally, tell us, Catherine Cook, WHO was responsible for positioning those aiming points so close to those children?
Let's ask Alison, Gabby:

"Giffords, of course, wasnÂ’t the only victim of the Tucson shooting; 14 were injured and six were killed. It is deeply saddening to read about the dead and to imagine the unending grief for their survivors. /19/

"It is particularly difficult to view the sweet, smiling picture of nine-year-old Christina Taylor Green, knowing that her bright life is no longer before her.

"It is equally tragic to read of nine-year-old Akaber, killed by Israeli gunfire to her head while riding in her uncleÂ’s car to get medical stitches removed, and of the 29 other nine-year-olds killed by Israeli forces in the past decade, eight of them by Israeli gunfire to the head.

"It is too late for Akabar, Diya, Mohammed, Tom, and the multitude of others. But there is hope that Gabrielle Giffords is going to survive. Let us pray that she recovers fully, that she is able to return to Congress, and that she then works to prevent others ? including Palestinians ? from being shot in the head.

"We have better uses for our money than to fund atrocities."

Get it, Gabby?
Teen-aged Jews who've been indoctrinated all their lives to view Arabs as animals sit in sniper towers and POP any kid they feel like, knowing good kosher Gabbys will apologize for their crimes. Ready for the best part, G...US tax dollars make it all happen


Shot in the Head » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
One-sided, lop-sided anecdotal accounts, posted on and second-hand relay of narratives on pro-Palestinian websites.

Some of them may even be true, from time to time, with respect to some particular sociopathic Israeli soldier (every Army has some) but that does not make such behaviors endemic or systemic...

And, of course, none of that answers the questions asked of Catherine Cook.

Stay focused; you're wandering all over the place.

Answer the questions posed to Ms. Cook and you'll find reciprocation on the head-shot issue...
 
RoccoR said:
The Hostile Arab Palestinian has forfeited some of these rights by their actions they have taken and the outcomes that resulted.

Link?

Link to what ?
Either way, you're the most biased poster here, so no matter what evidence ANYONE presents you, it's ALWAYS Israels fault and NEVER the Palestinians fault.

I don't know why an intelligent and knowledgable poster like Rocco wastes his time with you.
 
No doubt, the majority of Palestinian children were killed while going about normal daily activities or simply being in their homes.

Now, tell us, Catherine Cook, what where those Israeli airstrikes and ground-fire AIMING AT when those children died?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, how CLOSE to those children WERE those aiming points?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, WHY were those aiming points positioned so close to those children?

And, tell us, Catherine Cook, SHOULD those aiming points have been positioned so close to those children?

Finally, tell us, Catherine Cook, WHO was responsible for positioning those aiming points so close to those children?
Let's ask Alison, Gabby:

"Giffords, of course, wasn’t the only victim of the Tucson shooting; 14 were injured and six were killed. It is deeply saddening to read about the dead and to imagine the unending grief for their survivors. /19/

"It is particularly difficult to view the sweet, smiling picture of nine-year-old Christina Taylor Green, knowing that her bright life is no longer before her.

"It is equally tragic to read of nine-year-old Akaber, killed by Israeli gunfire to her head while riding in her uncle’s car to get medical stitches removed, and of the 29 other nine-year-olds killed by Israeli forces in the past decade, eight of them by Israeli gunfire to the head.

"It is too late for Akabar, Diya, Mohammed, Tom, and the multitude of others. But there is hope that Gabrielle Giffords is going to survive. Let us pray that she recovers fully, that she is able to return to Congress, and that she then works to prevent others ? including Palestinians ? from being shot in the head.

"We have better uses for our money than to fund atrocities."

Get it, Gabby?
Teen-aged Jews who've been indoctrinated all their lives to view Arabs as animals sit in sniper towers and POP any kid they feel like, knowing good kosher Gabbys will apologize for their crimes. Ready for the best part, G...US tax dollars make it all happen


Shot in the Head » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
One-sided, lop-sided anecdotal accounts, posted on and second-hand relay of narratives on pro-Palestinian websites.

Some of them may even be true, from time to time, with respect to some particular sociopathic Israeli soldier (every Army has some) but that does not make such behaviors endemic or systemic...

And, of course, none of that answers the questions asked of Catherine Cook.

Stay focused; you're wandering all over the place.

Answer the questions posed to Ms. Cook and you'll find reciprocation on the head-shot issue...

Aww common Kondor, don't talk bad about about their pro - Palestinians websites. Without them, people like him would have nothing .. I mean, it's basically all they got ;)
 
RoccoR said:
The Hostile Arab Palestinian has forfeited some of these rights by their actions they have taken and the outcomes that resulted.

Link?

Link to what ?
Either way, you're the most biased poster here, so no matter what evidence ANYONE presents you, it's ALWAYS Israels fault and NEVER the Palestinians fault.

I don't know why an intelligent and knowledgable poster like Rocco wastes his time with you.

What is biased about facts?

I can't help it if the truth is anti Israel.
 
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Link to what ?
Either way, you're the most biased poster here, so no matter what evidence ANYONE presents you, it's ALWAYS Israels fault and NEVER the Palestinians fault.

I don't know why an intelligent and knowledgable poster like Rocco wastes his time with you.

What is biased about facts?

I can't help it if the truth is anti Israel.

False. The truth is NOT anti - Israel. That is your opinion.

Again, it's impossible to have a truthful debate with someone like you who is completely one sided. Not trying to insult you, but it's the truth.


Say one bad thing about Palestinians
 
Link to what ?
Either way, you're the most biased poster here, so no matter what evidence ANYONE presents you, it's ALWAYS Israels fault and NEVER the Palestinians fault.
You're really no one to talk about that.

According to you, it's never Israel's fault and always someone else's fault.

You make excuses for everything Israel does.
 
Link to what ?
Either way, you're the most biased poster here, so no matter what evidence ANYONE presents you, it's ALWAYS Israels fault and NEVER the Palestinians fault.
You're really no one to talk about that.

According to you, it's never Israel's fault and always someone else's fault.

You make excuses for everything Israel does.

Not true. I have criticized Israel several times. I never said Israel was not guilty of anything. I never said Israel is an Angel
 
It was NOT, as you say, unilateral. It was done in accordance with the implementation instruction of the UNPC, under the Steps Preparatory to Independence, pursuant to and in conformity with the recommendations of the General Assembly, and the guidance of the Security Council. The Arab Higher Committee (representing the indigenous arabs) was invited to the UNPC implementation meetings before Independence was declared, but declined. There was no "vote" required.
I already posted this once and I'm getting tired of repeating myself.

Zionists knew the UN was trying to control the escalating hostility and was going rule on a trusteeship (then a truce) and asked them (Zionists) to hold off on declaring statehood until they (the UN) could discuss what would happen when the Mandate officially ended on May 15.
[In the spring of 1948] a special session of the General Assembly [was to] be called in order to approve a trusteeship for Palestine, to take effect when the Mandate ended, i.e., on May 15th.

When it became clear in the Assembly that the trusteeship plan could not be adopted, another delaying formula was devised - a 'temporary truce': both parties were to cease fire, no political decision was to be taken, a limited Jewish immigration was to be permitted for a few months, and in exchange for this transient and dubious security the Jews were to refrain from proclaiming their State in accordance with the November decision ...
Now if what you say is true, that Zionists declared statehood in compliance with UN recommendations, why was statehood declared when they were requested not to do so?

Israel declared its independence on 14 May 1948.
The UN asked them to hold off doing this and they didn't.

So why do you still claim they did?


The "genesis of the hostility" is much closer to the HAMAS description:
Why do you keep pointing to this "covenant", when I've posted more recent comments by Hamas leaders that are more relevant to their current policy and less militaristic in their goals?


Whether this is a prima facie case against the "immigrant" as you contend, or an admission of culpability on the part of HoAPs, is subjective.
It's not subjective at all. You cannot post any evidence of a major incident of violence between arabs and jews in that area, before the Zionist migrations. All the major accounts of violence occurred after this period, not before. That is not subjective, it is an historical fact.

During the period of the Mandate, the Zionist Organization worked to secure the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. The indigenous people of Palestine, whose forefathers had inhabited the land for virtually the two preceding millennia felt this design to be a violation of their natural and inalienable rights. They also viewed it as an infringement of assurances of independence given by the Allied Powers to Arab leaders in return for their support during the war. The result was mounting resistance to the Mandate by Palestinian Arabs, followed by resort to violence by the Jewish community as the Second World War drew to a close.
That's a UN report that clearly states when arabs resisted the Mandate because it was not fair and balanced to arab community, the jewish community responded with violence.
 
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