It is obvious that this is not the forum where people have gone beyond 2+2=4
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It is obvious that this is not the forum where people have gone beyond 2+2=4
just a joke
It's been fun & entertaining but not educational
no animosity intended or implied
You are obviously missing that you have to consider the energy required to pump air into all eleven buckets, not just one, for your machine to work. There is no multiplier effect.It is obvious that this is not the forum where people have gone beyond 2+2=4
just a joke
It's been fun & entertaining but not educational
no animosity intended or implied
If you have one (1) bucket full of air and this bucket has a lifting force of 20lbs and this bucket is attached to nine (9) other buckets with the same lifting force; then you have a combined lifting force of 200 lbs.
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How many buckets get filled with air, 1 or 10? (1 or 11 in the earlier examples).If you have one (1) bucket full of air and this bucket has a lifting force of 20lbs and this bucket is attached to nine (9) other buckets with the same lifting force; then you have a combined lifting force of 200 lbs.
This is as simple as it gets.
You are not talking into account “time” and the power of torque.
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You are not talking into account “time” and the power of torque.
I would like to find someone who could “prove” this concept cannot work; just saying so falls a bit short.
Of course, it takes energy to fill one bucket with air but once you have filled all 11 buckets you have the combined pulling force of all eleven buckets at the same “time”.
I will try to calculate the energy needed to fill a bucket with air at a depth of 600 feet and the energy return from the combined torque force generated from the 11 buckets. If the numbers are a wash I will drip this gizmo.
Torque acts as a force multiplier, not an energy multiplier.You are not talking into account “time” and the power of torque.
I would like to find someone who could “prove” this concept cannot work; just saying so falls a bit short.
Of course, it takes energy to fill one bucket with air but once you have filled all 11 buckets you have the combined pulling force of all eleven buckets at the same “time”.
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I would say 80 revolutions per minute........which doesn't matter a hill of beans. What matters is a law of physics called the law of conservation of energy.
Again you are missing the point.
If you have a gear that is 48" in diameter that is meshed into a gear that is 6" in diameter and the two are meshed tooth to tooth and the larger gear is turning at 10 revolutions a minute, how fast is the smaller gear turning-?
I would say 80 revolutions per minute........which doesn't matter a hill of beans. What matters is a law of physics called the law of conservation of energy.
Again you are missing the point.
If you have a gear that is 48" in diameter that is meshed into a gear that is 6" in diameter and the two are meshed tooth to tooth and the larger gear is turning at 10 revolutions a minute, how fast is the smaller gear turning-?
Conservation of energy - Wikipedia
"In physics and chemistry, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time.[1] This law means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another."
Let's say you have an electric pump to pump air to power your machine. Your machine is used to turn a generator to generate electricity. According to the law pf conservation of energy, for each watt of energy used by the air pump, the most energy you can generate on the other end would be 1 watt. And that is only if everything involved is 100% energy efficient. No machine is 100% efficient, there will always be inefficiencies due to friction.
So you can do a million different torque calculations if you like, but the energy output by a machine will never be greater than the energy input to the machine.
Well maybe someone will stumble on this thread and learn some basic physics.I would say 80 revolutions per minute........which doesn't matter a hill of beans. What matters is a law of physics called the law of conservation of energy.
Again you are missing the point.
If you have a gear that is 48" in diameter that is meshed into a gear that is 6" in diameter and the two are meshed tooth to tooth and the larger gear is turning at 10 revolutions a minute, how fast is the smaller gear turning-?
Conservation of energy - Wikipedia
"In physics and chemistry, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time.[1] This law means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another."
Let's say you have an electric pump to pump air to power your machine. Your machine is used to turn a generator to generate electricity. According to the law pf conservation of energy, for each watt of energy used by the air pump, the most energy you can generate on the other end would be 1 watt. And that is only if everything involved is 100% energy efficient. No machine is 100% efficient, there will always be inefficiencies due to friction.
So you can do a million different torque calculations if you like, but the energy output by a machine will never be greater than the energy input to the machine.
But...…..science and math isn't helpful for his free energy idea...…...
The buckets are coated with a Teflon type substance to minimize friction and to prevent organisms from attaching themselves to the buckets.
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The buckets are coated with a Teflon type substance to minimize friction and to prevent organisms from attaching themselves to the buckets.
thanks for your contribution; at least you introduced a possible obstacle to overcome.
This is not "free" energy.
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This is not "free" energy.
To begin this calculation I must first calculate how much energy is required to pump the air down to 600 feet and the volume of air needed to fill each bucket.
At 600 feet the pressure is 280.995 psi.
To calculate the process I need to use a common energy equivalent and I have decided to use horsepower.
I also need a three dimensional model to work with.
To do this I need to use our auto-cad program at my office.
So at this moment I am off to my office to make the needed calculations.
I will log on to this site when I get there.
See you then.
