UK's is ground zero for right wing state authoritarianism

[Independent thinker]

The right to protest is under attack in Britain where their rights are more implied than enumerated in a document like ours. They have even made it a crime to walk slowly and another to ban the accused from telling juries in court the circumstance of their protest.

Right wing government leaders (in power from Europe's push back against immigration) say laws are to limit protests impact on public transit and curtail jury nullification based on protesters' goals. It looks alot like Desantis' blueprint in Florida, doesn't it?

Our government framework is much more resistant than UK's is to right wing state authoritarianism but even here it relies on a neutral court. The undermining of that could be our undoing. Is Britain erosion of freedom the the right wing blueprint?

Havent seen @LimeyGator in a while but would be interested in his opinion here as well.

This Basic Right Is Under Threat In Britain

LONDON (AP) — For holding a sign outside a courthouse reminding jurors of their right to acquit defendants, a retiree faces up to two years in prison. For hanging a banner reading “Just Stop Oil” off a bridge, an engineer got a three-year prison sentence. Just for walking slowly down the street, scores of people have been arrested.

They are among hundreds of environmental activists arrested for peaceful demonstrations in the U.K., where tough new laws restrict the right to protest.

The Conservative government says the laws prevent extremist activists from hurting the economy and disrupting daily life. Critics say civil rights are being eroded without enough scrutiny from lawmakers or protection by the courts. They say the sweeping arrests of peaceful demonstrators, along with government officials labeling environmental activists extremists, mark a worrying departure for a liberal democracy.

Britain is one of the world’s oldest democracies, home of the Magna Carta, a centuries-old Parliament and an independent judiciary. That democratic system is underpinned by an “unwritten constitution” — a set of laws, rules, conventions and judicial decisions accumulated over hundreds of years. The effect of that patchwork is “we rely on self-restraint by governments," said Andrew Blick, author of “Democratic Turbulence in the United Kingdom” and a political scientist at King's College London. “You hope the people in power are going to behave themselves.”

Britain may stand alone next year in lurching to the left
For the first time it is quite possible that a majority of MEPs will be Eurosceptic right-wingers. While the European Parliament does not have much law-making power in its own right, it does exert massive influence on other EU institutions and its complexion will be a key indicator of which way the political wind is blowing across the continent.

There is no doubt that public unease about mass immigration, particularly of minority groups who show little desire to integrate into European values, is the main driver of right-wing support. Could the Schengen Agreement that renders most of Europe a single domain without internal frontiers be about to collapse? The European elections will determine that.

What really causes right wing extremism is left wing extremism and the UK is ground zero on that.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Right wing extremism in the UK is because of right wing extremists nothing else.

No 'mommy, she made me do it" shit.

 

[citygator]

When youre only selling point is to buy off poor communities in order to get their vote, then your ideas fucking suck. Conservatives have been beating dems in elections for DECADES by simply having good, sane ideas.

You bought your votes from an uninformed population; we earned our votes by just being "right".

College educated vote democrat in a big way. Uniformed voters go GOP. Studies show Fox News viewers are less informed than anyone.

 

[Lord Long Rod]

College educated vote democrat in a big way. Uniformed voters go GOP. Studies show Fox News viewers are less informed than anyone.

Today “college educated” means brainwashed leftist zombies.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The right to protest is under attack in Britain where their rights are more implied than enumerated in a document like ours. They have even made it a crime to walk slowly and another to ban the accused from telling juries in court the circumstance of their protest.

Right wing government leaders (in power from Europe's push back against immigration) say laws are to limit protests impact on public transit and curtail jury nullification based on protesters' goals. It looks alot like Desantis' blueprint in Florida, doesn't it?

Our government framework is much more resistant than UK's is to right wing state authoritarianism but even here it relies on a neutral court. The undermining of that could be our undoing. Is Britain erosion of freedom the the right wing blueprint?

Havent seen @LimeyGator in a while but would be interested in his opinion here as well.

This Basic Right Is Under Threat In Britain

LONDON (AP) — For holding a sign outside a courthouse reminding jurors of their right to acquit defendants, a retiree faces up to two years in prison. For hanging a banner reading “Just Stop Oil” off a bridge, an engineer got a three-year prison sentence. Just for walking slowly down the street, scores of people have been arrested.

They are among hundreds of environmental activists arrested for peaceful demonstrations in the U.K., where tough new laws restrict the right to protest.

The Conservative government says the laws prevent extremist activists from hurting the economy and disrupting daily life. Critics say civil rights are being eroded without enough scrutiny from lawmakers or protection by the courts. They say the sweeping arrests of peaceful demonstrators, along with government officials labeling environmental activists extremists, mark a worrying departure for a liberal democracy.

Britain is one of the world’s oldest democracies, home of the Magna Carta, a centuries-old Parliament and an independent judiciary. That democratic system is underpinned by an “unwritten constitution” — a set of laws, rules, conventions and judicial decisions accumulated over hundreds of years. The effect of that patchwork is “we rely on self-restraint by governments," said Andrew Blick, author of “Democratic Turbulence in the United Kingdom” and a political scientist at King's College London. “You hope the people in power are going to behave themselves.”

Britain may stand alone next year in lurching to the left
For the first time it is quite possible that a majority of MEPs will be Eurosceptic right-wingers. While the European Parliament does not have much law-making power in its own right, it does exert massive influence on other EU institutions and its complexion will be a key indicator of which way the political wind is blowing across the continent.

There is no doubt that public unease about mass immigration, particularly of minority groups who show little desire to integrate into European values, is the main driver of right-wing support. Could the Schengen Agreement that renders most of Europe a single domain without internal frontiers be about to collapse? The European elections will determine that.

OP believes anyone slightly to the right of his Lord Xi is automatically “right wing”

 

[Dreadnaught1968]

The right to protest is under attack in Britain where their rights are more implied than enumerated in a document like ours. They have even made it a crime to walk slowly and another to ban the accused from telling juries in court the circumstance of their protest.

Right wing government leaders (in power from Europe's push back against immigration) say laws are to limit protests impact on public transit and curtail jury nullification based on protesters' goals. It looks alot like Desantis' blueprint in Florida, doesn't it?

Our government framework is much more resistant than UK's is to right wing state authoritarianism but even here it relies on a neutral court. The undermining of that could be our undoing. Is Britain erosion of freedom the the right wing blueprint?

Havent seen @LimeyGator in a while but would be interested in his opinion here as well.

This Basic Right Is Under Threat In Britain

LONDON (AP) — For holding a sign outside a courthouse reminding jurors of their right to acquit defendants, a retiree faces up to two years in prison. For hanging a banner reading “Just Stop Oil” off a bridge, an engineer got a three-year prison sentence. Just for walking slowly down the street, scores of people have been arrested.

They are among hundreds of environmental activists arrested for peaceful demonstrations in the U.K., where tough new laws restrict the right to protest.

The Conservative government says the laws prevent extremist activists from hurting the economy and disrupting daily life. Critics say civil rights are being eroded without enough scrutiny from lawmakers or protection by the courts. They say the sweeping arrests of peaceful demonstrators, along with government officials labeling environmental activists extremists, mark a worrying departure for a liberal democracy.

Britain is one of the world’s oldest democracies, home of the Magna Carta, a centuries-old Parliament and an independent judiciary. That democratic system is underpinned by an “unwritten constitution” — a set of laws, rules, conventions and judicial decisions accumulated over hundreds of years. The effect of that patchwork is “we rely on self-restraint by governments," said Andrew Blick, author of “Democratic Turbulence in the United Kingdom” and a political scientist at King's College London. “You hope the people in power are going to behave themselves.”

Britain may stand alone next year in lurching to the left
For the first time it is quite possible that a majority of MEPs will be Eurosceptic right-wingers. While the European Parliament does not have much law-making power in its own right, it does exert massive influence on other EU institutions and its complexion will be a key indicator of which way the political wind is blowing across the continent.

There is no doubt that public unease about mass immigration, particularly of minority groups who show little desire to integrate into European values, is the main driver of right-wing support. Could the Schengen Agreement that renders most of Europe a single domain without internal frontiers be about to collapse? The European elections will determine that.

It's not a crime to walk slowly. It's a crime to walk slowly in traffic, on busy streets, blocking traffic. Not to mention wandering out on to freeways, and gluing themselves to the pavement. If you want people to join your cause, don't piss them off. These types of antics don't help what you are trying to achieve.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Can't impede walkways or motorways.

Can't yell at a jury that it can nullify.

Free speech does not include criminal speech.

Free access does not include blocking or impeding access.

 

[Godboy]

College educated vote democrat in a big way. Uniformed voters go GOP. Studies show Fox News viewers are less informed than anyone.

"College educated" is a small portion of your voting pool. Your party buys the votes of ignorant poor people. Thats just a fact.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

"College educated" is a small portion of your voting pool. Your party buys the votes of ignorant poor people. Thats just a fact.

Educated people tend to vote progressive.

Thick fuckers tend to vote conservative. Its because they lack the intelligence to deal with complex issues.

They are more comfortable dealing with non issues like "groomers" and other culture war nonsense rather than the economy or anything that cant be explained on a bumper sticker or baseball cap.

 

[citygator]

Educated people tend to vote progressive.

Thick fuckers tend to vote conservative. Its because they lack the intelligence to deal with complex issues.

They are more comfortable dealing with non issues like "groomers" and other culture war nonsense rather thn the economy or anything that cant be explained on a bumper sticker or baseball cap.

Spot on. MAGAts like simple explanations:

• Other people are poor because they are lazy but MAGA is poor because of brown people
• Trump lost cuz he was cheated in republican states by republicans
• Everything wealthy corporatist rulers don’t like is socialism
• There is collaborative media conspiracy to discredit maga conspiracy theories

It never ends.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Spot on. MAGAts like simple explanations:

• Other people are poor because they are lazy but MAGA is poor because of brown people
• Trump lost cuz he was cheated in republican states by republicans
• Everything wealthy corporatist rulers don’t like is socialism
• There is collaborative media conspiracy to discredit maga conspiracy theories

It never ends.

We noticed it with brexit. All the university cities, where intelligent people gather, voted remain. People from the thicko reservations voted to leave.
Conservatism drags us all down.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The right to protest is under attack in Britain where their rights are more implied than enumerated in a document like ours. They have even made it a crime to walk slowly and another to ban the accused from telling juries in court the circumstance of their protest.

Right wing government leaders (in power from Europe's push back against immigration) say laws are to limit protests impact on public transit and curtail jury nullification based on protesters' goals. It looks alot like Desantis' blueprint in Florida, doesn't it?

Our government framework is much more resistant than UK's is to right wing state authoritarianism but even here it relies on a neutral court. The undermining of that could be our undoing. Is Britain erosion of freedom the the right wing blueprint?

Havent seen @LimeyGator in a while but would be interested in his opinion here as well.

This Basic Right Is Under Threat In Britain

LONDON (AP) — For holding a sign outside a courthouse reminding jurors of their right to acquit defendants, a retiree faces up to two years in prison. For hanging a banner reading “Just Stop Oil” off a bridge, an engineer got a three-year prison sentence. Just for walking slowly down the street, scores of people have been arrested.

They are among hundreds of environmental activists arrested for peaceful demonstrations in the U.K., where tough new laws restrict the right to protest.

The Conservative government says the laws prevent extremist activists from hurting the economy and disrupting daily life. Critics say civil rights are being eroded without enough scrutiny from lawmakers or protection by the courts. They say the sweeping arrests of peaceful demonstrators, along with government officials labeling environmental activists extremists, mark a worrying departure for a liberal democracy.

Britain is one of the world’s oldest democracies, home of the Magna Carta, a centuries-old Parliament and an independent judiciary. That democratic system is underpinned by an “unwritten constitution” — a set of laws, rules, conventions and judicial decisions accumulated over hundreds of years. The effect of that patchwork is “we rely on self-restraint by governments," said Andrew Blick, author of “Democratic Turbulence in the United Kingdom” and a political scientist at King's College London. “You hope the people in power are going to behave themselves.”

Britain may stand alone next year in lurching to the left
For the first time it is quite possible that a majority of MEPs will be Eurosceptic right-wingers. While the European Parliament does not have much law-making power in its own right, it does exert massive influence on other EU institutions and its complexion will be a key indicator of which way the political wind is blowing across the continent.

There is no doubt that public unease about mass immigration, particularly of minority groups who show little desire to integrate into European values, is the main driver of right-wing support. Could the Schengen Agreement that renders most of Europe a single domain without internal frontiers be about to collapse? The European elections will determine that.

Here's a government link to protests -

Protest powers: Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022 factsheet

www.gov.uk

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Is Britain erosion of freedom the the right wing blueprint?

Yes.

Conservatism is fundamentally illiberal, anti-democratic, and authoritarian – seeking to compel conformity and punish dissent, increase the authority of the state at the expense of individual liberty, and pursue a reactionary agenda hostile to positive, beneficial change, diversity, and inclusion.

Conservativism is the true threat to democracy, the rule of law, and the protected liberties of the people.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

We noticed it with brexit. All the university cities, where intelligent people gather, voted remain. People from the thicko reservations voted to leave.
Conservatism drags us all down.

Brexit was in essence a manifestation of nativist anti-immigrant racism, bigotry, and hate.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Brexit was in essence a manifestation of nativist anti-immigrant racism, bigotry, and hate.

And its fauled on every level.