Ukraine’s President Says Biden Handed Putin a ‘Weapon’ By Caving On Pipeline

1) Yes, we should listen to what they have to say.

2) UK backs Nord Stream 2 and does not need long-term gas storage: minister

"The UK does not support Russia's Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project to Germany and does not need its own long-term storage facility, UK Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy Kwasi Kwarteng told a parliamentary committee Sept. 22."


"The saga of US actions against the Nord Stream 2 pipeline project reads like a John le Carré novel. In spite of the desire of Germany and other European allies to have it built and even though it is nearly completed, the US persists in thwarting the project. Canada is also against it. Why?"

So, no we weren't the only one.

3) I would rather them buy from us, or Canada...of course...but the reality is it undermines NATO, it undermines the security of Europe and once again put them under Moscow's circle of power.

4) agreed....but we are the pocket book of the world. If Germany wants to do this, we should remove them from NATO, take up are bases there, and stop sending them any aid.

They can be Moscow's bitch again...those on the East likely still remember how great that worked out for them last time
Germany and Russia Should be Allies. Ditch that HATO trash & Live Free.
 
I believe Biden reinstated those sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Might be too little and too late though.

Here's the deal as I see it:

Germany and other European countries need Russian oil and natural gas to heat their homes and fuel their cars, trucks, planes, etc. BUT - Russia also needs somebody to buy their oil and gas, it ain't doing them any good if nobody buys it.

What Biden could do is allow our oil and gas to be exported to Europe as a replacement, cuz all those great and wonderful renewable fuels ain't cutting it over there. The greenies will have a conniption fit, but fuck 'em. I kinda doubt Biden has the balls to do that though, the greenies are a big part of the democratic party's financial support.
 
Biden has caved to Putin several times since he was sworn in.

BTW I thought Germany was so advanced in windmills and solar, why do they need this NG? Aren't they the envy of the American's who think wind and soar can run a grid?


Ukraine's president accused the Biden administration of handing a "weapon" to the Kremlin by allowing the completion of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which Russian president Vladimir Putin hopes to use to build influence in Europe.
"This is a weapon, a real weapon … in the hands of the Russian Federation," Volodymyr Zelensky said in an interview with Axios that aired Sunday. "It is not very understandable … that the bullets to this weapon can possibly be provided by such a great country as the United States."
Zelensky told Axios that he learned through press reports last month that Biden had decided to waive sanctions against European companies helping build the pipeline. He said that Biden had previously given him indications that he would not allow the completion of the pipeline, which will transport gas directly from Russia to Germany.
U.S. and Ukrainian officials are concerned that Nord Stream 2, which is owned by Russian gas giant Gazprom, will give Putin more leverage over Ukraine and other Eastern European countries that the pipeline bypasses. Biden's decision conflicts with his past claims to adamantly support Ukraine and oppose Putin. As vice president, Biden served as the Obama administration's chief liaison to Ukraine following the ouster of Viktor Yanukovych, its pro-Russia leader.
Zelensky said that the United States is the only nation that can stop the completion of the 764-mile pipeline. While the Biden administration has called the pipeline a "Kremlin geopolitical project," it opposes sanctions out of concerns about harming the U.S.-German relationship. German officials largely support the pipeline because it will transport relatively cheap gas to Germany
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Nord Stream 2 AG, which is based in Switzerland, has shelled out millions of dollars in the United States to lobby against sanctions on the pipeline. Five European companies that have loaned billions to Nord Stream 2 AG paid two Atlantic Council scholars nearly $3 million since 2017 to lobby in favor of the pipeline.


Trump told NATO, etc that long ago = Mr Trump was right, again
 
justoffal and Biden wants the US to go with green energy!! and the greenies want to shut down another pipeline in Illinois! they are stupid
 
I believe Biden reinstated those sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Might be too little and too late though.

Here's the deal as I see it:

Germany and other European countries need Russian oil and natural gas to heat their homes and fuel their cars, trucks, planes, etc. BUT - Russia also needs somebody to buy their oil and gas, it ain't doing them any good if nobody buys it.

What Biden could do is allow our oil and gas to be exported to Europe as a replacement, cuz all those great and wonderful renewable fuels ain't cutting it over there. The greenies will have a conniption fit, but fuck 'em. I kinda doubt Biden has the balls to do that though, the greenies are a big part of the democratic party's financial support.
There's also allegedly some evidence to suggest that Zelinsky and his cronies have been skimming profits from the Russian pipelines that cross Ukraine.

Though I haven't seen any direct evidence, I have heard it from several sources.
 
Biden has caved to Putin several times since he was sworn in.

BTW I thought Germany was so advanced in windmills and solar, why do they need this NG? Aren't they the envy of the American's who think wind and soar can run a grid?
To make matter worse, Germany is in the process of decommissioning all of their nuclear power plants, which used to provide 30% of their power. Genius.

Also, the Biden admin is using a climate change cost calculation ruling to let them indefinitely delay planned oil and gas leases. It's like they get in a room and try to figure out the fastest ways to make things as bad as possible.

WASHINGTON -- The Biden administration is delaying decisions on new oil and gas drilling on federal land and other energy-related actions after a federal court blocked the way officials were calculating the real-world costs of climate change.

The administration said in a legal filing that a Feb. 11 ruling by a Louisiana federal judge will affect dozens of rules by at least four federal agencies. Among the immediate effects is an indefinite delay in planned oil and gas lease sales on public lands in a half-dozen states in the West, including Wyoming, Montana and Utah.

 
There's also allegedly some evidence to suggest that Zelinsky and his cronies have been skimming profits from the Russian pipelines that cross Ukraine.

Though I haven't seen any direct evidence, I have heard it from several sources.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised. I do give Zelinsky major credit for staying with his troops in Kiev instead of hauling ass outta there. Maybe Ukraine has a corrupt gov't and probably always has since they left the USSR, but I don't think that's why Russia is invading and IMHO is not a good reason to deny them military and political support that we promised them.
 
Even though its in Europe the pipe line will ease commodity prices here in the US...Biden has no choice...If he wants a little wiggle room he needs to reopen the Keystone
Keystone XL only benefits the Chinese. You should have known that 10 years ago.
 
He didn't cave...He was bought.

I can't believe that Joe doesn't come cheep.



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Da fuck you're talking about? This makes no sense at all.
Keystone XL is an export pipeline for Chinese tarsands from Canada. It will go to the US free trade zone to be refined and shipped overseas. None will be sold in the US nor will they pay taxes.
 

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