Tylenol Only.....After Major Surgery?

[MarathonMike]

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The medical industrial complex is a ghoulish beast which will move the goalposts without notice, to suit whatever their agenda is. This is why I avoid them.

I had friends -- disabled Veterans -- who got booted out of whatever relief they were getting for their chronic pain because of that never ending war on drugs. A frightening number of them became heroin addicts and some simply quit and ended their own lives. It's heartbreaking to witness such suffering.


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If there's a particular drug being pushed by doctors, follow the money. Johnson and Johnson, major supplier to Big Pharma produces Tylenol.

 

[Rocko]

Doctors and nurses have recently heard me note that — for me — Tylenol simply doesn’t work. And it doesn’t. But it is still their “go to” pain relief recommendation.

One of the medical personnel (this time, a physician’s assistant or a nurse practitioner) who was given to me for pain management associated with my ongoing cancer battle, offered a different pain med option. Guess what? The insurance company declined coverage. It isn’t a huge figure — so we simply paid it.

But I gather that the medical establishment (and insurance companies together) are trying to avoid liability for anything coming out of the opioid crisis.

Cancer sucks! I hope you stomp it out for all of us!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I have had three surgeries on my back two on my bladder, in the last year. All I ever got was Tylenol.

 

[sparky]

is this a bad time to bring up whisky......? ~S~

 

[fncceo]

Has anyone heard of this trend? It sounds nearly barbaric to me.

It’s actually pretty normal.

1000mg IV Tylenol is 100% absorbed into the bloodstream very quickly and is normally all that is required for postoperative pain.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Doctors are much more afraid of being sued for giving "too strong" of a pain medication than they are of patients being angry over being left in pain after a major surgery. I've never heard of an opium addict suing the doctor who originally precribed them, but if that hasn't happened, it's only because the plaintiff's attorneys haven't thought of it yet.

No doubt they have to make special reports with giving opiods, and feel that they can only give them to so many patients without raising a red flag. So they "save" their opportunities for those patients that they judge should get them, based on whatever criteria they wish.

The real problem is no oversight, except by doctors themselves. Certain aspects of the medical profession are abhorent to the most of the public, but there is no one to turn to but medical boards who are obsessed with "best practices," which inevitibly come from the branches of medicine who commit what amounts to crimes under the guise of medical treatment.

 

[Seymour Flops]

is this a bad time to bring up whisky......? ~S~

There are bad times to bring up whisky?

 

[odanny]

Just rub some dirt on it.

 

[JohnDB]

Just rub some dirt on it.

You forgot the "walk it off" part.

 

[westwall]

Has anyone heard of this trend? It sounds nearly barbaric to me. I understand that 15 or so years ago this nation was in an opioid epidemic brought on by greedy pharma companies. By why does that mean patients have to suffer through post surgical pain IN THE HOSPITAL?

A decade ago, most people thought of Tylenol (acetaminophen) as a medicine for fever, malaise and minor aches and pains. Nobody imagined that it would become the go-to drug for treating moderate, let alone severe, postoperative pain.

But this is just what has happened. Thanks to pressure from lawmakers, government agencies and policymakers who inserted themselves into the patient-doctor relationship, patients became the victims of the never-ending war on drugs.

Now, doctors frequently offer only acetaminophen to treat painful conditions despite the drug’s inability to remedy them.

Tylenol After Surgery? Why the Feds Make Patients Suffer Needless Pain (USA Today)

Opioids make me sicker than hell, so I never use them. I use a mix of Tylenol and ibuprofen.

 

[westwall]

Doctors and nurses have recently heard me note that — for me — Tylenol simply doesn’t work. And it doesn’t. But it is still their “go to” pain relief recommendation.

One of the medical personnel (this time, a physician’s assistant or a nurse practitioner) who was given to me for pain management associated with my ongoing cancer battle, offered a different pain med option. Guess what? The insurance company declined coverage. It isn’t a huge figure — so we simply paid it.

But I gather that the medical establishment (and insurance companies together) are trying to avoid liability for anything coming out of the opioid crisis.

If you can get it, cannabis oil works very good for pain relief.

 

[odanny]

You forgot the "walk it off" part.

That's what they did with "balloon boy" at a Vikings game in the 70's, pluck the kid out of a frozen lake, haul him back and throw his clothes in the dryer and say "walk it off, kid".

 

[braalian]

Surgeries aren’t as invasive as they used to be. The surgical incisions are way smaller.

Patients often go home the same day when a week or more inpatient stay used to be the norm

 

[SweetSue92]

It’s actually pretty normal.

1000mg IV Tylenol is 100% absorbed into the bloodstream very quickly and is normally all that is required for postoperative pain.

I never heard of this, say, 10 years ago

 

[fncceo]

I never heard of this, say, 10 years ago

It's been around at least that long.

 

[SweetSue92]

Surgeries aren’t as invasive as they used to be. The surgical incisions are way smaller.

Patients often go home the same day when a week or more inpatient stay used to be the norm

Yes, I agree, but they're withholding pain meds even after C sections. (For those who don't know: huge incision, LOTS of moving stuff around inside). That's crazy work. Women are giving each other tips NOT to plan to have babies in "Tylenol only" hospitals and practices.

 

[Woodznutz]

Has anyone heard of this trend? It sounds nearly barbaric to me. I understand that 15 or so years ago this nation was in an opioid epidemic brought on by greedy pharma companies. By why does that mean patients have to suffer through post surgical pain IN THE HOSPITAL?

A decade ago, most people thought of Tylenol (acetaminophen) as a medicine for fever, malaise and minor aches and pains. Nobody imagined that it would become the go-to drug for treating moderate, let alone severe, postoperative pain.

But this is just what has happened. Thanks to pressure from lawmakers, government agencies and policymakers who inserted themselves into the patient-doctor relationship, patients became the victims of the never-ending war on drugs.

Now, doctors frequently offer only acetaminophen to treat painful conditions despite the drug’s inability to remedy them.

Tylenol After Surgery? Why the Feds Make Patients Suffer Needless Pain (USA Today)

Worse yet, nurses often forget or neglect to give pain meds to their patients.

 

[braalian]

Worse yet, nurses often forget or neglect to give pain meds to their patients.

Oh bullshit

 

[Woodznutz]

I have had three surgeries on my back two on my bladder, in the last year. All I ever got was Tylenol.

Tylenol or Tylenol 2.

Tylenol 2 is good stuff.

 

[braalian]

Tylenol or Tylenol 2.

Tylenol 2 is good stuff.

Tylenol 3