Its interesting to me that you think the data comes from thin air and before YOU read the papers you just referenced....you open your fat **** mouth and ***** and whine that its a conspiracy theory - when any semi sentient person who can read and understand the literature and isnt a completely partisan minded dipsbhit can see that you havent done dick for intellectually honest research. Not a damn bit of shit.
Sad, really.
Until 2008, I was only peripherally interested in climate "science". I was on another Broad and one of the early AGWCult members was carrying on about a new paper that showed mankind was responsible for Global Warming (that's before it changed to Climate change or Climate Disruption.)
I downloaded and read the paper by Scarfetta and West and what I learned was that it was long on conjecture and very short on any experiments backing up the theory. Form memory I think they said the Sun was only 30% responsible for Global Warming (remember, that's before it changed to Climate change or Climate Disruption). When I looked for the methodology by which they assigned the various percent I came up with "well, it kind of feels right" as their reasoning. That's not exactly what they said but that's the impression I got. No science, no experiment, just a punt
That's when I knew the AGWCult was scamming us.