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Too bad your myths are just that . The problem is cops stop blacks four times as often and screw them four times as often.
Could it be that, like other crimes, blacks commit four times as many traffic infractions as whites?
Except that whites commit 3 times the crime as blacks.
Then why do blacks make up 50% of the prison population yet 13% of the general?
Systemic racism. That's why a Brock Turner can get 3 months in a county jail after being pulled off an unconscious woman that he was raping and a black man would get at least 25 years. In order to go to prison you must be sentenced, blacks get sentences for doing the same crimes whites get probation for.
 

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do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.
You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.
Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.
Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.
Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.
Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.
Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.
Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.
That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??
Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.
Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​
Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​
As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​
No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​
The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​
That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​
But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​
You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​
Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​
This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​
For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​
To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​
This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​
 

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do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.
You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.
Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.
Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.
Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.
Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.
Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.
Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.
That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??
Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.
Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​
Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​
As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​
No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​
The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​
That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​
But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​
You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​
Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​
This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​
For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​
To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​
This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​
Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.
 

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do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.
You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.
Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.
Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.
Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.
Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.
Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.
Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.
That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??
Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.
Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​
Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​
As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​
No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​
The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​
That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​
But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​
You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​
Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​
This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​
For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​
To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​
This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​
Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.
Wrong dude. The substance abuse rate among whites is higher.
  • White: 7.7%
  • Hispanic or Latino 7.1%
  • Black or African American 6.9%
  • Asian American: 4.8%
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More collateral damage from the Black Lives Matter movement.
There is no information about the bastards who shot the police but I bet you that as CNN said: We will give you more information when we have some but seeing that it is surely one of the his BLM freaks or some other leftist shit ... time will pass before we know who the culprits are but when is a BLM they cry about it 24/24 hours.
Here is the difference.
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I understand that the reward for information leading to the capture or death of this perp is $700,000...

 

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do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.
You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.
Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.
Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.
Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.
Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.
Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.
Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.
That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??
Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.
Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​
Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​
As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​
No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​
The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​
That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​
But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​
You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​
Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​
This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​
For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​
To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​
This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​
Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.
Wrong dude. The substance abuse rate among whites is higher.
  • White: 7.7%
  • Hispanic or Latino 7.1%
  • Black or African American 6.9%
  • Asian American: 4.8%
  • American Indian or Alaskan Native: 10.1%
  • Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 9.3%
I’m not disputing that as it’s a separate issue.
But I live in da hood and my retired prostitute/recovered-crack-and-heroin-addict neighbor shows me all of the drug users and locations in town. She still smokes pot as do most blacks in town.
 

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do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.
You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.
Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.
Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.
Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.
Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.
Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.
Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.
That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??
Not by nature, but there is a serious multi-generational criminal culture in the ghetto.
Don't try to tell me there ain't, because I've been around them off and on my whole life.
 

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So why are blacks four times as likely to be stopped and three times is likely to be arrested and put in prison although there is little evidence they are more criminal than whites. Black gangsters of course are very busy killing each other over who gets to sell drugs to whites from the suburbs and the sticks.
Are you sure it's black gangsters and not the Mexican cartels? Mexican cartels are responsible for the majority of drugs in this country.
Actually it’s our own drug industry and prescription drugs. Most addicts started out with this group of people.
And most start out with marijuana/weed/pot early on. It's sort of the primer before the paint. Some start out drinking because their parents drink, and they get hold to some wine, beer or liquor at some point. Millions started out smoking cigarettes because of their parents or friends smoking, and again so they have to try it all of course because of. Parents/adults are very impressionable on their children. Parents/adults, because they are adults, only have the laws in which to control them, but children rely mostly on their parents to teach and control them. Some things need to be heavily regulated or even outlawed if it causes a super problem in society. I think the country is slow to react in a lot of ways, because things get out of hand, and it then becomes a situation where there is way to much money at stake. Walking things back down through heavy regulatory actions or even outlawing some things is always a huge struggle once the supporting networks or groups form that support many things even if those things eventually kill us in the earliest of our lives.
Too bad your myths are just that . The problem is cops stop blacks four times as often and screw them four times as often.
And why is that ????? Oh wait, they just get up in the morning and go to work thinking I'm gonna get me some black blood today right ???? Do you realize how dumb you are right now ??? First off we have what is known as good black American's, and then we have those who are bad (usually called thugs or whatever), the same with white's and so on and so forth. The problem for black's, is that they have been taught that you never leave a black man behind (based on color, not character), because if they do then the numbers diminish, and if the numbers diminish Joe Biden says " they gonna put y'all back in chains". Then the good black's who don't believe such bullcrap the Demoncrat party is selling, well they try to prove it to all blacks that these politician's are lying, and that black's do have equal opportunity in America if they could only break free from the Demoncrat plantation to realize it. What happens to these Black's ? Well they are outcasted, ostracized, and called names for even suggesting such a thing.

Black's that don't take advantage of the equal opportunities they are given in America, and instead want to stay in rebellious mode, vengence mode, and any other kind of mode they can think of, then they are always gonna be lost in America, even amongst those black's who want to help them but can't reach them because of the evil demoncrats. Wake up American Democrat voting black folks, just wake up already. Quit believing the lies, and quit following hollywood, corrupt politician's, and bad character's in bad culture's.
 

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That woman got shot in the jaw. They released the radio chatter. You couldn't understand her when she keyed the mic and tried to talk because he shot a chunk of her jaw off.
That video of the officer and mother of a six year old child with blood from her jaw all over her while she was giving life support to the young officer made me cry.

She was so brave, and the shot of her arms that received when the assassin emptied his multiple shots made me wonder how she could carry on with the amount of blood she lost. She in my book deserves asilver star for her duty when severely wounded, putting all she had into getting emergency help and trying to keep him alive with a tournaquet while ignoring pain. I am praying a prayer for both of them as it is my vesper hour.

Bless all of you for your concern for our dear police who are in hsrd times right now.
Stop supporting police crime.
What crime did the cops commit sitting in their car together? The only crime I saw was, of course, committed by the black.
Don't even try it. Those 2 police are where they are because people like you all over America have supported crooked murdering cops in every department it happens in. Nearly 40 years ago the brutality of the CPD was chronicled:


And nothing has changed. Why do I say this? Because a couple of years ago a lifelong Compton resident said this:


And because of what cops have been doing, because turds like you cheer for each murder, 2 innocent peaceful cops got shot. The days of whites bullying us are over. It's been over for the last 55 years. So if you want to continue with your little fucked up white attitude, start to understand that either you change or this goes until hell freezes over. Your choice white man, tennis shoes or ice skates son.
You talk a lot of shit.

I don't think you have the balls to back up any of your racist bravado.
You are sadly mistaken. I'm in here. You won't go post your opinion in majority black forums. So from my standpoint you are the one without balls.
I won't?
Pick one and send me a link.
 

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Too bad your myths are just that . The problem is cops stop blacks four times as often and screw them four times as often.
Could it be that, like other crimes, blacks commit four times as many traffic infractions as whites?
That is a myth, brainwashed functional moron....
 
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That woman got shot in the jaw. They released the radio chatter. You couldn't understand her when she keyed the mic and tried to talk because he shot a chunk of her jaw off.
That video of the officer and mother of a six year old child with blood from her jaw all over her while she was giving life support to the young officer made me cry.

She was so brave, and the shot of her arms that received when the assassin emptied his multiple shots made me wonder how she could carry on with the amount of blood she lost. She in my book deserves asilver star for her duty when severely wounded, putting all she had into getting emergency help and trying to keep him alive with a tournaquet while ignoring pain. I am praying a prayer for both of them as it is my vesper hour.

Bless all of you for your concern for our dear police who are in hsrd times right now.
Stop supporting police crime.
What crime did the cops commit sitting in their car together? The only crime I saw was, of course, committed by the black.
Don't even try it. Those 2 police are where they are because people like you all over America have supported crooked murdering cops in every department it happens in. Nearly 40 years ago the brutality of the CPD was chronicled:


And nothing has changed. Why do I say this? Because a couple of years ago a lifelong Compton resident said this:


And because of what cops have been doing, because turds like you cheer for each murder, 2 innocent peaceful cops got shot. The days of whites bullying us are over. It's been over for the last 55 years. So if you want to continue with your little fucked up white attitude, start to understand that either you change or this goes until hell freezes over. Your choice white man, tennis shoes or ice skates son.
So you support the killing of innocent white people in order to send a message that your type in character are fed up eh ???? That's the way it's gonna be ???
Innocent white people?!?
You know something about the two cops shot that we don't know ? And yes they were white, and by what we know so far they are innocent. Even if they aren't innocent, street justice is wrong period. I don't care who it is directed against. We have a justice system, and that system is what we rely on (all of us), so do you support vigilante justice ???
People are promoting street justice by the cops all the time.
That's bullcrap and you know it.... People of all colors are wanting the cop's to come back now and do their jobs. One thing about it, you can sit there in your seat running your mouth about this and about that, but what you can't stop is those who constantly make a fool out of you daily. Now get out there and preach some MLK for real peace, uh if that is what you truly want. Until then just keep being made a fool of by those you keep making excuses for.
Peace isn't up to me. It's up to those who call peaceful protesters SOB's and gas them.
Oh you mean those peaceful protestor's burning and looting ? You mean the ones that keep making a fool of you every night, and then become peaceful by day ??? Those protestor's ???
There have been over 11,000 protests, 25 million participants, 10,000 arrests. All the looting and rioting the government tells you is happening is not. This is.

White Vigilantes Have Always Had A Friend In Police

New data shows that far-right vigilantes, often with support from cops, have threatened protesters nearly 500 times since police killed George Floyd.


White vigilantes and far-right actors have shown up to oppose Black Lives Matter protests in the U.S. at least 497 times this year, according to data collected by Alexander Reid Ross, a doctoral fellow at the Center for Analysis of the Radical Right. He started gathering data on May 27, two days after police in Minneapolis killed George Floyd, and continued through this week.

The dataset, which Ross shared with HuffPost, documents a staggering amount of violence directed at protesters by the far-right, including 64 cases of simple assault, 38 incidents of vigilantes driving cars into demonstrators, and nine times shots were fired at protesters.

All told, six protesters were hit by vigilante bullets in this summer’s violence. Three died from their wounds.

Ross’ dataset also includes 387 incidents of intimidation, such as people using racist slurs, making threats and brandishing firearms.

“There just isn’t really anything to compare it to,” Ross told HuffPost. “I’ve never seen anything like this in my life.”

The data — which Ross gathered from social media posts, news reports and the ACLED US Crisis Monitor with help from Political Research Associates and the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights — includes some harrowing tales of violence.

A U.S. Army sergeant, who had previously posted tweets about targeting Black Lives Matter activists, shot and killed a protester in Austin, Texas.

Black Lives Matter protesters marching through a rural part of Bedford County, Pennsylvania, say a white man opened fire on them at night, striking one protester in the face.

A man in Iowa City, Iowa, allegedly drove his car into a crowd of protesters and, according to a criminal complaint, later justified the attack by telling police the protesters needed “an attitude adjustment.”


The steady drumbeat of such stories this summer has coincided with story after story of cops and national guardsmen openly supporting or collaborating with fascists and white vigilantes.

Ross said his dataset includes about two dozen incidents of vigilantes receiving approval or support from law enforcement. A sheriff in Arizona, for example, announced he would form a “civilian posse” to help “suppress lawlessness” during a time of “widespread unrest.”

In California, a sheriff’s deputy was spotted wearing a “III Percenters” militia patch on his uniform while policing a protest. And in Portland, Oregon, cops let the neo-fascist gang the Proud Boys attack protesters in the streets.

Disturbing images also emerged of police cozying up to far-right activists: A cop in Georgia was photographed fist-bumping an armed militia member, and cops in Philadelphia posed for a friendly photo with vigilantes who roamed the city’s streets with baseball bats.

Still more stories emerged this summer of cops themselves relishing violence against protesters.

A police chief in Sioux Rapids, Iowa, was suspended for two weeks after writing a Facebook comment encouraging people to drive their cars through Black Lives Matter demonstrators.

“HIT THE GAS AND HANG ON FOR THE SPEED BUMPS,” he wrote.

And in Wilmington, North Carolina, three white police officers were fired after being caught on camera using racial slurs while discussing massacring Black protesters.

“We are just going to go out and start slaughtering them fucking N words,” one officer said.

“Wipe ’em off the fucking map,” the same officer said. “That’ll put ’em back about four or five generations.”


A report published this week by former FBI agent Mike German, now a fellow at New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice, documented how police ties to “white supremacist groups or far-right militant activities” have been uncovered in over a dozen states since 2000.

 

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More Obama legacy.
Obama didn't invent the gun nor did he insist that Americans have a right to own one.
So you’re suggesting we should arrest the guns and let the shooters go free.
I repeat: Obama didn't invent the gun nor did he insist that Americans have a right to own one. What does your second-guessing statement have to with the invention of firearms and some stupid after-thought change in the U.S. constitution?
Follow this thread: I blame Obama for the police assassination culture; You shift the focus to guns; I insist that guns don’t kill, people do; You respond with a disjointed post.
I understand your confusion so let me ask if you are aware of the likely hood of someone being strangled to death as opposed to being shot dead? I mean I suppose that you can strangle someone with a rifle but I don't think it is very likely and even less likely with a pistol. It's a simple question but if you still feel I am twisting reality out of shape please let me know. Look, are you of the mindset that a total lack of guns (just for the sake of argument) would not diminish the number of murders?
No, you’d still have murder and crime. Because removing guns doesn’t address the culture.
Fine but you are having difficulties separating the two issues.
1). Destitution in one form (degree) or another: Yes, this is the main issue and neither you nor I can deny it.
2). Murder: One way to acquire sustenance.

It ought to be obvious that the failed nation of the U.S. does not provide for its citizens. The reason for this - greed of those who want "everything" for themselves and a thoroughly corrupt government that not only allows it but actively takes part in it. But now you might be thinking, "Who's this azzhole who criticizes the American system?" You know as well as I do that the American system is rotten with corruption and has a twisted excuse for the destitution of a growing number of its citizens while the rich continue to get even wealthier and yet claiming that only the lazy do not succeed. Some people probably really believe that money grows on trees and it's only a matter of finding the tree, but it's not true.

Yeah, I agree with you when you say, "removing guns doesn’t address the culture". But American culture is just another word for corruption as long as it is allowed to continue 'as is'. Here's a question for you. Which one of these contributes most to crime?

1. Greed.
2. Destitution.

And if you could eliminate one of them which would be the best solution for the nation's population? I mean which one (feasibly) would go a long way to curing the other one?
In every system you have winners and losers, but the system is not the problem. The problem is what each individual decides to make of the system or how to use it in the best ways possible. It's liken to a gun, where as it's not the hundreds of years old weapon that is the problem, but rather what the hand does with it that can either be a problem or not. Quit with the blame game, and start teaching yourself or other's how to take full advantage of the system in which has been more than enough generous to all of us who use the system in the ways that it was and still is supposed to be used. I tire of the idiocy, I truly do.
Here is an excerpt from your reply that is either dishonest, sincerely or intentional ignorant, or maybe first on shill's list of side-stepping 101.

" ... the system in which has been more than enough generous to all of us ... "

Whatever else you've written in your response is irrelevant and subservient to that single statement.
 

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That woman got shot in the jaw. They released the radio chatter. You couldn't understand her when she keyed the mic and tried to talk because he shot a chunk of her jaw off.
That video of the officer and mother of a six year old child with blood from her jaw all over her while she was giving life support to the young officer made me cry.

She was so brave, and the shot of her arms that received when the assassin emptied his multiple shots made me wonder how she could carry on with the amount of blood she lost. She in my book deserves asilver star for her duty when severely wounded, putting all she had into getting emergency help and trying to keep him alive with a tournaquet while ignoring pain. I am praying a prayer for both of them as it is my vesper hour.

Bless all of you for your concern for our dear police who are in hsrd times right now.
Stop supporting police crime.
What crime did the cops commit sitting in their car together? The only crime I saw was, of course, committed by the black.
Don't even try it. Those 2 police are where they are because people like you all over America have supported crooked murdering cops in every department it happens in. Nearly 40 years ago the brutality of the CPD was chronicled:


And nothing has changed. Why do I say this? Because a couple of years ago a lifelong Compton resident said this:


And because of what cops have been doing, because turds like you cheer for each murder, 2 innocent peaceful cops got shot. The days of whites bullying us are over. It's been over for the last 55 years. So if you want to continue with your little fucked up white attitude, start to understand that either you change or this goes until hell freezes over. Your choice white man, tennis shoes or ice skates son.
So you support the killing of innocent white people in order to send a message that your type in character are fed up eh ???? That's the way it's gonna be ???
Innocent white people?!?
You know something about the two cops shot that we don't know ? And yes they were white, and by what we know so far they are innocent. Even if they aren't innocent, street justice is wrong period. I don't care who it is directed against. We have a justice system, and that system is what we rely on (all of us), so do you support vigilante justice ???
People are promoting street justice by the cops all the time.
That's bullcrap and you know it.... People of all colors are wanting the cop's to come back now and do their jobs. One thing about it, you can sit there in your seat running your mouth about this and about that, but what you can't stop is those who constantly make a fool out of you daily. Now get out there and preach some MLK for real peace, uh if that is what you truly want. Until then just keep being made a fool of by those you keep making excuses for.
Peace isn't up to me. It's up to those who call peaceful protesters SOB's and gas them.
Oh you mean those peaceful protestor's burning and looting ? You mean the ones that keep making a fool of you every night, and then become peaceful by day ??? Those protestor's ???
There have been over 11,000 protests, 25 million participants, 10,000 arrests. All the looting and rioting the government tells you is happening is not. This is.

White Vigilantes Have Always Had A Friend In Police

New data shows that far-right vigilantes, often with support from cops, have threatened protesters nearly 500 times since police killed George Floyd.


White vigilantes and far-right actors have shown up to oppose Black Lives Matter protests in the U.S. at least 497 times this year, according to data collected by Alexander Reid Ross, a doctoral fellow at the Center for Analysis of the Radical Right. He started gathering data on May 27, two days after police in Minneapolis killed George Floyd, and continued through this week.

The dataset, which Ross shared with HuffPost, documents a staggering amount of violence directed at protesters by the far-right, including 64 cases of simple assault, 38 incidents of vigilantes driving cars into demonstrators, and nine times shots were fired at protesters.

All told, six protesters were hit by vigilante bullets in this summer’s violence. Three died from their wounds.

Ross’ dataset also includes 387 incidents of intimidation, such as people using racist slurs, making threats and brandishing firearms.

“There just isn’t really anything to compare it to,” Ross told HuffPost. “I’ve never seen anything like this in my life.”

The data — which Ross gathered from social media posts, news reports and the ACLED US Crisis Monitor with help from Political Research Associates and the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights — includes some harrowing tales of violence.

A U.S. Army sergeant, who had previously posted tweets about targeting Black Lives Matter activists, shot and killed a protester in Austin, Texas.

Black Lives Matter protesters marching through a rural part of Bedford County, Pennsylvania, say a white man opened fire on them at night, striking one protester in the face.

A man in Iowa City, Iowa, allegedly drove his car into a crowd of protesters and, according to a criminal complaint, later justified the attack by telling police the protesters needed “an attitude adjustment.”


The steady drumbeat of such stories this summer has coincided with story after story of cops and national guardsmen openly supporting or collaborating with fascists and white vigilantes.

Ross said his dataset includes about two dozen incidents of vigilantes receiving approval or support from law enforcement. A sheriff in Arizona, for example, announced he would form a “civilian posse” to help “suppress lawlessness” during a time of “widespread unrest.”

In California, a sheriff’s deputy was spotted wearing a “III Percenters” militia patch on his uniform while policing a protest. And in Portland, Oregon, cops let the neo-fascist gang the Proud Boys attack protesters in the streets.

Disturbing images also emerged of police cozying up to far-right activists: A cop in Georgia was photographed fist-bumping an armed militia member, and cops in Philadelphia posed for a friendly photo with vigilantes who roamed the city’s streets with baseball bats.

Still more stories emerged this summer of cops themselves relishing violence against protesters.

A police chief in Sioux Rapids, Iowa, was suspended for two weeks after writing a Facebook comment encouraging people to drive their cars through Black Lives Matter demonstrators.

“HIT THE GAS AND HANG ON FOR THE SPEED BUMPS,” he wrote.

And in Wilmington, North Carolina, three white police officers were fired after being caught on camera using racial slurs while discussing massacring Black protesters.

“We are just going to go out and start slaughtering them fucking N words,” one officer said.

“Wipe ’em off the fucking map,” the same officer said. “That’ll put ’em back about four or five generations.”


A report published this week by former FBI agent Mike German, now a fellow at New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice, documented how police ties to “white supremacist groups or far-right militant activities” have been uncovered in over a dozen states since 2000.

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do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.
You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.
Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.
Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.
Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.
Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.
Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.
Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.
That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??
Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.
Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​
Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​
As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​
No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​
The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​
That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​
But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​
You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​
Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​
This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​
For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​
To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​
This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​
Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.
That's incorrect. 1 black president means nothing when there have been 44 white ones. If 50 percent of the blacks in your town are on welfare that means the businesses in your town aren't hiring blacks or not paying blacks decent wages. One county does not prove anything, Why do you white "conservatives" pick out 1 black example to use for all black people but cry like little bitches if we are to use one white person then claim because that one white person is racist, all whites are racists?

After 50 years on this continent whites were still taking handouts from the King. Without massive government assistance whites would not have anything.
 
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That woman got shot in the jaw. They released the radio chatter. You couldn't understand her when she keyed the mic and tried to talk because he shot a chunk of her jaw off.
That video of the officer and mother of a six year old child with blood from her jaw all over her while she was giving life support to the young officer made me cry.

She was so brave, and the shot of her arms that received when the assassin emptied his multiple shots made me wonder how she could carry on with the amount of blood she lost. She in my book deserves asilver star for her duty when severely wounded, putting all she had into getting emergency help and trying to keep him alive with a tournaquet while ignoring pain. I am praying a prayer for both of them as it is my vesper hour.

Bless all of you for your concern for our dear police who are in hsrd times right now.
Stop supporting police crime.
What crime did the cops commit sitting in their car together? The only crime I saw was, of course, committed by the black.
Don't even try it. Those 2 police are where they are because people like you all over America have supported crooked murdering cops in every department it happens in. Nearly 40 years ago the brutality of the CPD was chronicled:


And nothing has changed. Why do I say this? Because a couple of years ago a lifelong Compton resident said this:


And because of what cops have been doing, because turds like you cheer for each murder, 2 innocent peaceful cops got shot. The days of whites bullying us are over. It's been over for the last 55 years. So if you want to continue with your little fucked up white attitude, start to understand that either you change or this goes until hell freezes over. Your choice white man, tennis shoes or ice skates son.
So you support the killing of innocent white people in order to send a message that your type in character are fed up eh ???? That's the way it's gonna be ???
Innocent white people?!?
You know something about the two cops shot that we don't know ? And yes they were white, and by what we know so far they are innocent. Even if they aren't innocent, street justice is wrong period. I don't care who it is directed against. We have a justice system, and that system is what we rely on (all of us), so do you support vigilante justice ???
People are promoting street justice by the cops all the time.
That's bullcrap and you know it.... People of all colors are wanting the cop's to come back now and do their jobs. One thing about it, you can sit there in your seat running your mouth about this and about that, but what you can't stop is those who constantly make a fool out of you daily. Now get out there and preach some MLK for real peace, uh if that is what you truly want. Until then just keep being made a fool of by those you keep making excuses for.
Peace isn't up to me. It's up to those who call peaceful protesters SOB's and gas them.
Oh you mean those peaceful protestor's burning and looting ? You mean the ones that keep making a fool of you every night, and then become peaceful by day ??? Those protestor's ???
There have been over 11,000 protests, 25 million participants, 10,000 arrests. All the looting and rioting the government tells you is happening is not. This is.

White Vigilantes Have Always Had A Friend In Police

New data shows that far-right vigilantes, often with support from cops, have threatened protesters nearly 500 times since police killed George Floyd.


White vigilantes and far-right actors have shown up to oppose Black Lives Matter protests in the U.S. at least 497 times this year, according to data collected by Alexander Reid Ross, a doctoral fellow at the Center for Analysis of the Radical Right. He started gathering data on May 27, two days after police in Minneapolis killed George Floyd, and continued through this week.

The dataset, which Ross shared with HuffPost, documents a staggering amount of violence directed at protesters by the far-right, including 64 cases of simple assault, 38 incidents of vigilantes driving cars into demonstrators, and nine times shots were fired at protesters.

All told, six protesters were hit by vigilante bullets in this summer’s violence. Three died from their wounds.

Ross’ dataset also includes 387 incidents of intimidation, such as people using racist slurs, making threats and brandishing firearms.

“There just isn’t really anything to compare it to,” Ross told HuffPost. “I’ve never seen anything like this in my life.”

The data — which Ross gathered from social media posts, news reports and the ACLED US Crisis Monitor with help from Political Research Associates and the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights — includes some harrowing tales of violence.

A U.S. Army sergeant, who had previously posted tweets about targeting Black Lives Matter activists, shot and killed a protester in Austin, Texas.

Black Lives Matter protesters marching through a rural part of Bedford County, Pennsylvania, say a white man opened fire on them at night, striking one protester in the face.

A man in Iowa City, Iowa, allegedly drove his car into a crowd of protesters and, according to a criminal complaint, later justified the attack by telling police the protesters needed “an attitude adjustment.”


The steady drumbeat of such stories this summer has coincided with story after story of cops and national guardsmen openly supporting or collaborating with fascists and white vigilantes.

Ross said his dataset includes about two dozen incidents of vigilantes receiving approval or support from law enforcement. A sheriff in Arizona, for example, announced he would form a “civilian posse” to help “suppress lawlessness” during a time of “widespread unrest.”

In California, a sheriff’s deputy was spotted wearing a “III Percenters” militia patch on his uniform while policing a protest. And in Portland, Oregon, cops let the neo-fascist gang the Proud Boys attack protesters in the streets.

Disturbing images also emerged of police cozying up to far-right activists: A cop in Georgia was photographed fist-bumping an armed militia member, and cops in Philadelphia posed for a friendly photo with vigilantes who roamed the city’s streets with baseball bats.

Still more stories emerged this summer of cops themselves relishing violence against protesters.

A police chief in Sioux Rapids, Iowa, was suspended for two weeks after writing a Facebook comment encouraging people to drive their cars through Black Lives Matter demonstrators.

“HIT THE GAS AND HANG ON FOR THE SPEED BUMPS,” he wrote.

And in Wilmington, North Carolina, three white police officers were fired after being caught on camera using racial slurs while discussing massacring Black protesters.

“We are just going to go out and start slaughtering them fucking N words,” one officer said.

“Wipe ’em off the fucking map,” the same officer said. “That’ll put ’em back about four or five generations.”


A report published this week by former FBI agent Mike German, now a fellow at New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice, documented how police ties to “white supremacist groups or far-right militant activities” have been uncovered in over a dozen states since 2000.

Oh horseshit.
It's true son. Man up and accept it. This is how it's always been throughout this countries history. Blacks protest, whites turn into angry mobs and start confrontations.
 

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do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.
You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.
Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.
Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.
Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.
Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.
Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.
Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.
That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??
Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.
Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​
Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​
As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​
No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​
The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​
That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​
But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​
You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​
Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​
This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​
For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​
To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​
This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​
Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.
My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman. He along with the rest of the Airmen had all of the requisite skills required to leave the military and pursue a successful and lucrative career as commercial airlines pilots had he lived, however it was almost 20 years between the end of WWII and the time that the airlines finally allowed an African American pilot to fly for them. And don't think it was a cakewalk just because they finally got their foot in the door mid 1960s.

No one has the right to tell another human being that they should be satisfied with less in life and should be doing much better with what crumbs the white ruling class in America threw at them.

It doesn't matter how many generations pass, if you don't have the capital to build up or can't acquire it. It was forbidden for blacks to own property and written into the deeds that the white property owners could not sell to black people. Real estate is one of the best ways to generate wealth but how were we supposed to do that when white society wouldn't allow it?

The only bullshit here is the condescending and arrogant attitude of those white racists who view black people as wayward children and refuse to accept let alone acknowledge what members of their race did to create the situation we have always lived with. And this is just one facet of living in a country that is hostile to people who are not white.
 

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do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.
You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.
Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.
Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.
Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.
Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.
Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.
Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.
That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??
Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.
Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​
Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​
As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​
No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​
The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​
That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​
But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​
You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​
Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​
This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​
For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​
To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​
This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​
Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.
Wrong dude. The substance abuse rate among whites is higher.
  • White: 7.7%
  • Hispanic or Latino 7.1%
  • Black or African American 6.9%
  • Asian American: 4.8%
  • American Indian or Alaskan Native: 10.1%
  • Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 9.3%
I’m not disputing that as it’s a separate issue.
But I live in da hood and my retired prostitute/recovered-crack-and-heroin-addict neighbor shows me all of the drug users and locations in town. She still smokes pot as do most blacks in town.
Hilarious hypocrites.
Just like red neck whites swill on beer all the time and sip their glasses glasses of wine with their meals and can’t start their day without their overload of Caffeine the world’s most widely used drug of choice.
You guys are laughable. You drug up every day with your sugary little highs then wonder why you’re 40 to 100 lbs over weight. I don’t know of any lardo red neck TrumpHole that doesn’t drug up every day.
 

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I am quite sure I want to use that information because it does not show what you say. The numbers are recorded. For example, whites committed 12,794 rapes. Blacks 5,376. Blacks committed less than half the number of rapes as whites. A human being is not a rate and the numbers represent the number of occurrence of a crime by race. The selective use of per capita by people like you is done so you can try continuing claiming white supremacy. I say this because you talk that rate shit about crime but when we talk about police shooting blacks, it's "more whites get shot" with no mention of rates.

So yes YOU must acknowledge YOUR problem, because I know what the cause of the problem is on my side. White racism. And that includes consistently trying to manipulate numbers in order to continue pushing a racist lie.
Always boring to watch you manipulate figures to you need. Although it is good to see that you admit that blacks commit crimes at two to more than four times the rate of whites. It is almost hard to believe that so few people can commit so many major crimes.

From YOUR source, blacks commit MORE MURDERS and MORE ROBBERIES than whites. For your convenience, I have included YOUR source here.



 

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..... For example, whites committed 12,794 rapes. Blacks 5,376. Blacks committed less than half the number of rapes as whites. .....
.... and ......

..... From YOUR source, blacks commit MORE MURDERS and MORE ROBBERIES than whites.
Ho-hum. Talk about boring. I'll bet that if you tally all of the automobile accidents during any month you will find that either more dark or more light cars are involved. So why are Americans so flipped out about crime statistics broken down by race? Americans are so f-ing stupid. They argue for hours and days about how many crimes are committed by blacks or whites instead of arguing about why there are so many crimes in the U.S. and then doing something about it. Jesus! What a racist mentality!

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do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.
You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.
Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.
Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.
Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.
Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.
Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.
Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.
That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??
Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.
Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​
Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​
As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​
No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​
The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​
That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​
But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​
You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​
Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​
This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​
For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​
To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​
This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​
Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.
My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman. He along with the rest of the Airmen had all of the requisite skills required to leave the military and pursue a successful and lucrative career as commercial airlines pilots had he lived, however it was almost 20 years between the end of WWII and the time that the airlines finally allowed an African American pilot to fly for them. And don't think it was a cakewalk just because they finally got their foot in the door mid 1960s.

No one has the right to tell another human being that they should be satisfied with less in life and should be doing much better with what crumbs the white ruling class in America threw at them.

It doesn't matter how many generations pass, if you don't have the capital to build up or can't acquire it. It was forbidden for blacks to own property and written into the deeds that the white property owners could not sell to black people. Real estate is one of the best ways to generate wealth but how were we supposed to do that when white society wouldn't allow it?

The only bullshit here is the condescending and arrogant attitude of those white racists who view black people as wayward children and refuse to accept let alone acknowledge what members of their race did to create the situation we have always lived with. And this is just one facet of living in a country that is hostile to people who are not white.
The 1960’s were over 50 years ago.
Get over it.
 

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