Two Nations: One State?

[georgephillip]

If a two-state solution in historical Palestine is dead, is it possible for Jew and Arab to live as equals between the River and the sea?

"On Thursday, Nov 14 the two chief negotiators of the Palestinian Authority handed their resignation from the talks with Israel, mediated by the US. Appointed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas says the resignations do not affect the PA's commitment to this round which began in July and is scheduled to complete in April.

"But many on the ground see no hope in the negotiations, and have long ago turned to a different option.

"As Michel Warschawski, author of The Bi-National Challenge says 'treating this geographical space from the river to the sea as one unit does not necessitate treating the people who live here as a collection of individuals.'

"While the fruitless negotiations drudge, various proposals for alternative solutions grounded in equality from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea emerge on both sides of the West Bank segregation wall."

Israelis and Palestinians Turn to One-State Solution

Or are some Semites more equal than others?

 

[P F Tinmore]

It will eventually be like that.

There is even an option for those who don't like it.

Emigration.

 

[Peterf]

No, quite impossible. Hundreds of millions of Arabs want to exterminate the Jews. The idea that Islamic fanatics could be trusted to live peacefully alongside Jewish neighbours deserves some sort of prize for scaling the summit of silliness.

 

[georgephillip]

It will eventually be like that.

There is even an option for those who don't like it.

Emigration.

Do you see any chance of a one state solution succeeding without UN peacekeepers in Palestine for at least a generation? How likely is it that rich Jewish elites will share the levers of state power with poor Arabs?

 

[georgephillip]

No, quite impossible. Hundreds of millions of Arabs want to exterminate the Jews. The idea that Islamic fanatics could be trusted to live peacefully alongside Jewish neighbours deserves some sort of prize for scaling the summit of silliness.

Roughly equal numbers of Jews and Arabs currently live between the River and the sea. Why shouldn't each human being living there enjoy equal protection under the law?

 

[pbel]

If a two-state solution in historical Palestine is dead, is it possible for Jew and Arab to live as equals between the River and the sea?

"On Thursday, Nov 14 the two chief negotiators of the Palestinian Authority handed their resignation from the talks with Israel, mediated by the US. Appointed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas says the resignations do not affect the PA's commitment to this round which began in July and is scheduled to complete in April.

"But many on the ground see no hope in the negotiations, and have long ago turned to a different option.

"As Michel Warschawski, author of The Bi-National Challenge says 'treating this geographical space from the river to the sea as one unit does not necessitate treating the people who live here as a collection of individuals.'

"While the fruitless negotiations drudge, various proposals for alternative solutions grounded in equality from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea emerge on both sides of the West Bank segregation wall."

Israelis and Palestinians Turn to One-State Solution

Or are some Semites more equal than others?

A Confederation might actually work.

 

[georgephillip]

"Creation of a Pan-Semitic Group, composed of Jewish, Arab and Egyptian intellectuals living in Geneva, to promote the idea of a confederation of Semitic states including all Arab countries and a Palestine Jewish state, was announced today"

Group Set Up in Geneva to Sponsor Semitic Confederation of States | Jewish Telegraphic Agency

Maybe it's not too late?

 

[eagle1462010]

There will never be a workable solution..................

We can propose anything. It changes nothing..............

The Islamists will have none of it..........................

Perpetual War......................

 

[docmauser1]

If a two-state solution in historical Palestine is dead, is it possible for Jew and Arab to live as equals between the River and the sea?

Of course! Palistanians are equal in palistan, jews are equal in Israel.

"On Thursday, Nov 14 the two chief negotiators of the Palestinian Authority handed their resignation from the talks with Israel, mediated by the US. ...

Who cares.

"As Michel Warschawski, author of The Bi-National Challenge says 'treating this geographical space from the river to the sea as one unit does not necessitate treating the people who live here as a collection of individuals.' "While the fruitless negotiations drudge, various proposals for alternative solutions grounded in equality from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea emerge on both sides of the West Bank segregation wall."

Ah! The keyword's the West Bank segregation wall. It's plain evident that a gaggle of losers from palistan wants to abuse israeli amenities at the jewish expence, same old dream of walking into a jewish home and taking it over, of course.

"Israelis and Palestinians Turn to One-State Solution

All 10 of the former and 200% of the latter?

Or are some Semites more equal than others?

Or are some semites more losers than others? hehe

 

[docmauser1]

It will eventually be like that. There is even an option for those who don't like it. Emigration.

Do you see any chance of a one state solution succeeding without UN peacekeepers in Palestine for at least a generation? How likely is it that rich Jewish elites will share the levers of state power with poor Arabs?

Funny drivel.

 

[docmauser1]

It will eventually be like that. There is even an option for those who don't like it. Emigration.

But leave everything behind, of course. hehe Same old dreams of walking into a jewish home and taking it over. When palistanians learn to take care of themselves?

 

[docmauser1]

A Confederation might actually work.

Indeed, Israel will supply the amenities, palistan will supply major losers to enjoy them, that is, having palistan and Israel too, of course.

 

[docmauser1]

"Creation of a Pan-Semitic Group, composed of Jewish, Arab and Egyptian intellectuals living in Geneva, to promote the idea of a confederation of Semitic states including all Arab countries and a Palestine Jewish state, was announced today" Maybe it's not too late?

Why are they living in Geneva? hehe

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT3E8yr8hoM]Incredible footage from Jerusalem in 1896 | Jews, Muslims, Christians living under the Ottomans - YouTube[/ame]

 

[georgephillip]

Incredible footage from Jerusalem in 1896 | Jews, Muslims, Christians living under the Ottomans - YouTube

The "first moving pictures in Palestine" filmed in 1896 appear to portray a much more peaceful version of Jerusalem than the one we see today. What's the big difference? O-I-L.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Incredible footage from Jerusalem in 1896 | Jews, Muslims, Christians living under the Ottomans - YouTube

The "first moving pictures in Palestine" filmed in 1896 appear to portray a much more peaceful version of Jerusalem than the one we see today. What's the big difference? O-I-L.

Good point Before Israel there was peace.

Since Israel there is death and destruction.

Why would anyone support death and destruction?

 

[georgephillip]

"Creation of a Pan-Semitic Group, composed of Jewish, Arab and Egyptian intellectuals living in Geneva, to promote the idea of a confederation of Semitic states including all Arab countries and a Palestine Jewish state, was announced today" Maybe it's not too late?

Why are they living in Geneva? hehe

"December 11, 1939"
hehehe
Group Set Up in Geneva to Sponsor Semitic Confederation of States | Jewish Telegraphic Agency

 

[georgephillip]

Incredible footage from Jerusalem in 1896 | Jews, Muslims, Christians living under the Ottomans - YouTube

The "first moving pictures in Palestine" filmed in 1896 appear to portray a much more peaceful version of Jerusalem than the one we see today. What's the big difference? O-I-L.

Good point Before Israel there was peace.

Since Israel there is death and destruction.

Why would anyone support death and destruction?

Who indeed...

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[georgephillip]

There will never be a workable solution..................

We can propose anything. It changes nothing..............

The Islamists will have none of it..........................

Perpetual War......................

What have Zionists done to make you think they are any different?

"The early Zionists were well aware that Palestine was already occupied by Arabs, who had constituted the overwhelming majority (95% in 1880) of the population there for over a thousand years, but thought that they could only benefit from Jewish immigration.

"This attitude led to the opposition of the Arabs being ignored, or even to their presence being denied, as in Israel Zangwill's famous slogan 'A land without a people, for a people without a land'.

"Generally though, such myths were propaganda invented by leaders who didn't think of the Arabs as an obstacle as serious as the big empires.

"It was hoped that the wishes of the local Arabs could be simply bypassed by forging agreements with the Ottoman authorities, or with Arab rulers outside Palestine.

"One of the earlier Zionists to warn against these ideas was Ahad Ha'am, who warned in his 1891 essay 'Truth from Eretz Israel' that in Palestine 'it is hard to find tillable land that is not already tilled', and moreover
From abroad we are accustomed to believing that the Arabs are all desert savages, like donkeys, who neither see nor understand what goes on around them. But this is a big mistake...

"'The Arabs, and especially those in the cities, understand our deeds and our desires in Eretz Israel, but they keep quiet and pretend not to understand, since they do not see our present activities as a threat to their future...

"'However, if the time comes when the life of our people in Eretz Israel develops to the point of encroaching upon the native population, they will not easily yield their place.'"

That time came in 1948.

Zionism definition and history

 

[eagle1462010]

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Before Israel there was Peace..............

Really................