Tweaking Trump

[Flanders]

The Donald’s instinctive views are generally sound, but he has to fine-tune his immigration a bit regarding Muslims:

. . . he warned about having illegal aliens coming across America’s southern border.

“When Mexico sends its people,” he said, ‘They’re not sending the best. … They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime. They’re rapists and some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards and they’re telling us where we’re getting.”

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Now he’s saying there should be a pause in immigration by Muslims.

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His answer is a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.”

Trump: Ban all Muslim entry to U.S. for now
Posted By -NO AUTHOR- On 12/07/2015 @ 4:42 pm

Trump: Ban all Muslim entry to U.S. for now​

Bringing Muslim infiltration to a screeching halt is not nearly enough. If anyone is serious about reining in Islam short of slaughtering hundreds of millions of Muslims, Trump, along with the other wannabes, should promise to define Islam as a political movement. Give it a moment's thought before you start waving the First Amendment around.

Think about how America and her allies would:

1. Fight a war against a political movement.

2. Fight a war against a religion.

Muslims are counting on the latter because the First Amendment makes America Islam’s weakest enemy.

Islam can only exist as a theocracy. Muslims fighting the war are intent on establishing Islamic theocracies in every country they invade. Proof: The faithful in every other religion are content to worship in America under the First Amendment’s protection, but not Muslims. Muslims will never rest until they live in a theocracy. If you doubt my take, put your mind ahead fifty years from today, then look back at what America becomes AFTER Islam becomes the government Muslims promise.

Ever since 9-11-2001 I’ve been saying that Islam should be legally defined as a political movement which it is, while Socialism/Communism should be defined as a religion which it is. In that way both are denied First Amendment protection. In short: Socialists would lose access to the public purse because it is a religion, while the war against Islam could be fought as a political movement.

NOTE: Put it in perspective by looking at how Communists operate. Communists establish theocracy in reverse. They first take control politically, them they impose their religion on everybody else. Also note that both Communism and Islam rely on violence and intimation to achieve their objectives.

Finally, Americans must not let political Islam win their war the same way American Communists gave Communism one victory after another since the end of WWII. (Vietnam was their greatest military victory.)

Decades before Vietnam, American Communists (Democrats) prevented all-out war against worldwide Communism irrespective of every warning from America’s most brilliant military thinkers.

The traitor in the White House is using the same strategy to prevent an all-out war against Islam by hiding behind his definition of religion. The truth is: Taqiyya the Liar’s rhetoric about ISIS is designed to protect the concept of theocracy —— a concept well-suited to the totalitarian personality.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

You've outdone yourself, Flanders. Very good!

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Hard to take people seriously when they refer to a sitting President as Taq the Liar. Wanna call the President nasty names go right ahead, but first you refer to him or her by their title, and that's Mr. President.

For someone railing against communism you sure like disrepsecting the highest office in our land.

 

[Flanders]

refer to him or her by their title, and that's Mr. President.

To Delta4Embassey: So as not to confuse him with his predecessors these few names I can remember are just for you:

Mr. President Sack of Shit.

Mr. President Chicago Sewer Rat.

Mr. President Jerk-off.

Mr. President Hussein.

Mr. President Traitor.

Mr. President Communist.

Mr. President Muslim.

Mr. President Parasite.

Mr. President Community Organizer.

Mr. President Ineligible.

Mr. President Barry Soetoro

And, of course, the always popular

Mr. President Taqiyyi the Liar.

Sorry to say that I cannot call your president Mr. President American.

Muslim Americans are our friends and our neighbors, our co-workers, our sports heroes -- and, yes, they are our men and women in uniform who are willing to die in defense of our country. We have to remember that.

Transcript: President Obama's address to the nation on the San Bernardino terror attack and the war on ISIS - CNNPolitics.com​

What I remember is a report that said approximately a thousand or so Muslim soldiers serving in the US Army said they would not kill Muslims in battle. At the time I said “Order them into battle in Iraq and Afghanistan. When they refuse to fight an enemy that declared war on us give them a dishonorable discharge.” I was being generous because they could face a firing squad. As I remember it, the military brass rolled over and nothing was done to those Muslim soldiers. As far as I know Muslims are still allowed to decide who they would kill in battle. This all happened years before Mr. President Muslim became commander in chief. More recently:

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on 08/08/2015
American Muslims exempt from conscription.

Obama recently ordered changes to the Oath of Allegiance to the United States in a manner that is very accommodating to Muslims and discriminates against all native born Americans.

the oath altered so that Muslims don't have to join the army​

 

[Flanders]

Media mouths are flipping out over the Donald’s comments. If nothing else comes out of banning Muslims, Trumps position demonstrates just how many top Republicans are in the UN’s pocket:

Donald Trump’s Republican Rivals Condemn His Call to Bar Muslims From Entering U.S.
By Ala Rappeport

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015​

Every person who opposes Trump’s position on Muslim refugees is, in effect, supporting the United Nations dictating America’s immigration policy.

The worst one of all is media mouths telling their audiences that barring United Nations refugees violates the US Constitution! Since when in hell are foreigners entitled to constitutional protection for any reason before they even get here?

As for whether Trump’s proposed Muslim immigration ban would be unconstitutional, Mark Krikorian at National Review judges it would most likely pass Constitutional muster, with due allowances for varying interpretations (and some confusing responses from Trump campaign spokespeople) of exactly what Trump has in mind:​

First of all, it’s important to underline that Congress can exclude or admit any foreigner it wants, for any reason or no reason. Non-Americans have no constitutional right to travel to the United States and no constitutional due-process rights to challenge exclusion; as the Supreme Court has written multiple times, “Whatever the procedure authorized by Congress is, it is due process as far as an alien denied entry is concerned.”

What’s more, while the president doesn’t have the authority that Obama has claimed, to let in anyone he wants for any reason (under the guise of “parole”), he does have the statutory authority to keep anyone out, for any reason he thinks best.​

We really ought to get past the habit of describing every idea we disagree with as “fascist,” “unconstitutional,” or “un-American,” with the latter term covering the angry denunciations of Trump’s Muslim immigration ban as going against everything Americans “stand for and believe in,” to quote former Vice President Dick Cheney on the matter.​

Trump’s Muslim Ban Is Not ‘Fascist,’ and Is Not Unconstitutional
by John Hayward
8 Dec 2015

Trump’s Muslim Ban Is Not ‘Fascist,’ and Probably Isn’t Unconstitutional​

I was really disappointed in Dick Cheney implying that Americans “stand for and believe in,” the United Nations —— which is exactly what Muslim refugees is all about. Cheney is too smart not to know that.

Incidentally, after I heard about the Twin Towers being attacked, I naturally began channel surfing the tube for details. At one point I surfed into the late Peter Jennings. I cannot recall his exact words, but he said something like “Has the UN been hit?” or “Is the UN safe?” It was something along those lines.

Early on, the death toll was being estimated at between 6,000 and 12,000 dead. Later on, after I heard that Jennings had implied President Bush lacked physical courage, I asked myself if Jennings would have come down so hard on Goofy Annan because the ol’ Goofer didn’t come back to Manhattan fast enough to suit Jennings after UN headquarters was leveled?

p.s. The Jennings story turned out to be an Internet rumor:

ABC’s Peter Jennings Blamed President Bush for Failing to Protect the U.S. Terrorist Attacks–Fiction!

Comment about Bush after 9/11 by Peter Jennings-Fiction!​

 

[Flanders]

Watch the video from 8 years ago when Pat Robertson said:

. . . "Ladies and gentlemen, we have to recognize that Islam is not a religion. It is a worldwide political movement meant on domination of the world. And it is meant to subjugate all people under Islamic law." He characterized the American Muslim community as "Islam light" and went on to say Muslims "want to take over and we want to impose Sharia on you. And before long, ladies are going to be dressed in burqas and whatever garments they would put on them, and next thing you know, men are going to be allowed to have wife-beating and you'll be beheading adulterers and so on and so forth."

Robertson: "Islam is not a religion. It is a worldwide political movement meant on domination"
June 12, 2007 6:33 PM EDT ››› NICK NATALICCHIO

Robertson: "Islam is not a religion. It is a worldwide political movement meant on domination"​

Last night Bill O’Reilly gave Robertson a little play:

Evangelist Pat Robertson has described Islam as a 'political system' and not a religion. Eboni Williams and Monica Crowley reacted to that hypothesis. "Robertson has it mostly right," Crowley asserted. "He is correct to say that Islam is a comprehensive ideological system that has religious elements. That does not mean that every Muslim is blowing things up, but the Islamic world is being run by the Islamists who believe in the global domination of Islam and the supremacy of Sharia." Williams put forth a far different interpretation of Islam. "The reverend is wrong on this and he does not get to decide what is and what isn't a religion. He's describing radical Islam and not the totality of the religion. He does not get to dictate this."

Bill O'Reilly: The O'Reilly Factor - Wednesday, December 9, 2015​

My suggestion is inching forward:

Ever since 9-11-2001 I’ve been saying that Islam should be legally defined as a political movement which it is, while Socialism/Communism should be defined as a religion which it is. In that way both are denied First Amendment protection. In short: Socialists would lose access to the public purse because it is a religion, while the war against Islam could be fought as a political movement.

 

[waltky]

Malala puts Trump in his place...

Malala Yousafzai Shuts Up Donald Trump's Rant On Banning Muslims From America
December 17, 2015 - Nobel prize winner Malala Yousafzai condemned Donald Trump's views on Muslims on Tuesday, at a sombre ceremony to remember the 134 children killed in a Taliban attack on a Pakistani school a year ago. "Well, that's really tragic that you hear these comments which are full of hatred, full of this ideology of being discriminative towards others," Malala told AFP, in response to recent comments by the US Republican presidential candidate.

Trump has been heavily criticised for calling for a ban on all Muslims entering the United States after a Muslim husband and wife killed 14 people in a shooting rampage in California, an incident classified as a terrorist act. Speaking at the ceremony in the city of Birmingham, central England, Malala's father Ziauddin Yousafzai also criticised Trump's comments. "It will be very unfair, very unjust that we associate 1.6 billion with a few terrorist organisations," he said, referring to the number of Muslims worldwide. The event was organised by peace prize winner Malala and her family, and two survivors of the attack, Ahmad Nawaz, 14, and Mohammed Ibrahim, 13, took part. The massacre saw nine extremists scale the walls of an army-run school in the northwestern Pakistani city of Peshawar, lobbing grenades and opening fire on terrified children and teachers.

It will be very unfair, very unjust that we associate 1.6 billion with a few terrorist organisations"​

Defeating the terrorist mindset

"There are these terrorist attacks happening, for example what happened in Paris or what happened in Peshawar a year ago," Malala said, referring to last month's Islamic State attack in Paris that killed 130 people. "It's not just needed in Pakistan but across the world. If we want to end terrorism we need to bring quality education so we defeat the mindset of terrorism mentality and of hatred." Nawaz, dressed in a traditional shalwar kameez, recounted the horror of the December 16, 2014 Peshawar attack, in which 17 adults were also killed. "I saw my teacher burned alive in that incident and the friends with whom I was playing," he told AFP.

"I was surrounded by the dead bodies of those friends. So it was the horrifying experience of my life and I still have nightmares." Nawaz was shot in the arm. His brother was killed. Ibrahim was in a wheelchair, having been paralysed from the waist down. The Taliban assault dredged up painful memories for Malala's family: she was shot in the head by the Taliban in 2012 after she had publicly advocated education for girls. "When I was watching all these graphics and all these news on television, my wife was crying, I was crying," Malala's father told AFP. "It was unbearable. It was very hard to watch. Our own trauma revived," he said. "We don't curse people, its a sin to curse and we never cursed Talibans for attacking our daughter, but I must say we cursed them that day."

Malala Yousafzai Shuts Up Donald Trump's Rant On Banning Muslims From America

See also:

Trump's views are 'full of hatred,' Nobel Peace Prize winner Malala Yousafzai says
Nobel Peace Prize winner Malala Yousafzai, who survived a Taliban shooting in 2012, called Donald Trump's anti-Muslim views "tragic" and discriminatory, becoming the latest in a stream of luminaries, celebrities and politicians to condemn the Republican presidential front-runner's comments on Muslims.

"Well, that's really tragic that you hear these comments which are full of hatred, full of this ideology of being discriminative towards others," Yousafzai, the youngest Nobel peace laureate, told AFP in response to Trump's comments. Yousafzai, who is Muslim, was shot by the Taliban for advocating for girls' right to an education. She offered her comments on Trump at a ceremony in England held in memory of the 134 schoolchildren killed in a Taliban attack last year. Her father also weighed in, calling it "very unfair, very unjust" to penalize the world's 1.6 billion Muslims for the acts of a few.

Trump's call last week for a blanket ban on Muslims entering the United States brought condemnations not only of that proposal, which critics say runs counter to the nation's founding ideals, but also a sense that he is contributing to a rise in Islamophobia and anti-Muslim violence. On Monday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) said Trump "could be a recruitment poster for ISIL," suggesting that such anti-Muslim comments play into the hands of Islamist fundamentalists waging a war on the West. ISIL is an acronym for the Islamic State militant group, which controls significant territory in Iraq and Syria. Even some Republican politicians felt the need to distance their party from Trump.

Republicans on Capitol Hill — led by House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (Wis.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) — denounced the proposal. Ryan said the ban "is not what this party stands for." Sen. Jeff Flake (Ariz.) on Friday attended afternoon prayers at an Islamic center in Scottsdale, where he lamented "the rhetoric" of the past week, "mostly from the presidential campaign." Just two days after Trump called for the ban, Muhammad Ali, perhaps the nation's most prominent Muslim athlete, condemned his views. "We as Muslims have to stand up to those who use Islam to advance their own personal agenda," Ali said in a statement. "They have alienated many from learning about Islam. True Muslims know or should know that it goes against our religion to try and force Islam on anybody."

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