Trusting Conservatives, and Liberals, ... Are they Right? Wrong? Or,.... Are both twisting The Truth?

[TruthSeeker112125]

Consider the possibility of the Liberals, & Conservatives, working "Hand-in-Hand" towards a "Joint Goal". which is "Your Daily Programing".​

With Today's Technology, The Internet, and now "AI",...... "Herding/Programing the Masses" can be Instantaneous!
Ponder on what Hitler, Mao, & Stalin, & Pol Pot, could've accomplished, if they had Today's Technology.
Ponder on what is going on, regarding the "Herding/Programing the Masses" in the so called "Free World"!

It's "Orwellian"!

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Question Everything​

by Tyler Durden
Authored...
Authored by Jeff Thomas via InternationalMan.com,

"The average person in the First World receives far more information than he would if he lived in a Second or Third World country. In many countries of the world, the very idea of twenty-four hour television news coverage would be unthinkable, yet many Westerners feel that, without this constant input, they would be woefully uninformed."

Alternate Possibilities​

"The proof of this is that those who have been programmed, tend to react with anger when they encounter a Nigel Farage or a Ron Paul, who might well challenge them to consider a third option—an interpretation beyond the narrow conservative and liberal views of events. In truth, on any issue, there exists a wide field of alternate possibilities.

By contrast, it is not uncommon for people outside the First World to have better instincts when encountering a news item. If they do not receive the BBC, Fox News, or CNN, they are likely, when learning of a political event, to think through, on their own, what the event means to them.

As they are not pre-programmed to follow one narrow line of reasoning or another, they are open to a broad range of possibilities. Each individual, based upon his personal experience, is likely to draw a different conclusion and, thorough discourse with others, is likely to continue to update his opinion each time he receives a new viewpoint.

As a result, it is not uncommon for those who are not “plugged-in” to be not only more open-minded, but more imaginative in their considerations, even when they are less educated and less “informed” than those in the First World."

"Unfortunately, what is encouraged is one of two views—either the liberal view or the conservative view. Other views are discouraged.

The liberal view espouses that a powerful liberal government is necessary to control the greed of capitalists, taxing and regulating them as much as possible to limit their ability to victimise the poorer classes.

The conservative view espouses that a powerful conservative government is needed to control the liberals, who threaten to create chaos and moral collapse through such efforts as gay rights, legalised abortion, etc."

 

[Chuz Life]

The conservative view espouses that a powerful conservative government is needed to control the liberals, who threaten to create chaos and moral collapse through such efforts as gay rights, legalised abortion, etc."

That is a completely false and frankly offensive premise.

 

[elektra]

There is no doubt that lifelong politicians twist the truth to their advantage.

Fiction based on fact, applies to everything in politics.

 

[Independent thinker]

Consider the possibility of the Liberals, & Conservatives, working "Hand-in-Hand" towards a "Joint Goal". which is "Your Daily Programing".​

With Today's Technology, The Internet, and now "AI",...... "Herding/Programing the Masses" can be Instantaneous!
Ponder on what Hitler, Mao, & Stalin, & Pol Pot, could've accomplished, if they had Today's Technology.
Ponder on what is going on, regarding the "Herding/Programing the Masses" in the so called "Free World"!

It's "Orwellian"!

​

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​

Question Everything​

by Tyler Durden
Authored...
Authored by Jeff Thomas via InternationalMan.com,

"The average person in the First World receives far more information than he would if he lived in a Second or Third World country. In many countries of the world, the very idea of twenty-four hour television news coverage would be unthinkable, yet many Westerners feel that, without this constant input, they would be woefully uninformed."

Alternate Possibilities​

"The proof of this is that those who have been programmed, tend to react with anger when they encounter a Nigel Farage or a Ron Paul, who might well challenge them to consider a third option—an interpretation beyond the narrow conservative and liberal views of events. In truth, on any issue, there exists a wide field of alternate possibilities.

By contrast, it is not uncommon for people outside the First World to have better instincts when encountering a news item. If they do not receive the BBC, Fox News, or CNN, they are likely, when learning of a political event, to think through, on their own, what the event means to them.

As they are not pre-programmed to follow one narrow line of reasoning or another, they are open to a broad range of possibilities. Each individual, based upon his personal experience, is likely to draw a different conclusion and, thorough discourse with others, is likely to continue to update his opinion each time he receives a new viewpoint.

As a result, it is not uncommon for those who are not “plugged-in” to be not only more open-minded, but more imaginative in their considerations, even when they are less educated and less “informed” than those in the First World."

"Unfortunately, what is encouraged is one of two views—either the liberal view or the conservative view. Other views are discouraged.

The liberal view espouses that a powerful liberal government is necessary to control the greed of capitalists, taxing and regulating them as much as possible to limit their ability to victimise the poorer classes.

The conservative view espouses that a powerful conservative government is needed to control the liberals, who threaten to create chaos and moral collapse through such efforts as gay rights, legalised abortion, etc."

They both twist the truth. Any side that says only the other side twists the truth doesn't understand reality.

 

[White 6]

There is no doubt that lifelong politicians twist the truth to their advantage.

Fiction based on fact, applies to everything in politics.

Same for short term politicians, like those only in the game since 2016 and out of office again in 2028.

 

[Billiejeens]

They both twist the truth. Any side that says only the other side twists the truth doesn't understand reality.

One side rains like an intermittent drizzle
One side rains like a category 5 hurricane

They are each rain.

They are not the same.

 

[Chuz Life]

They both twist the truth. Any side that says only the other side twists the truth doesn't understand reality.

Perfect example. . . a human being in the womb is just an unwanted blob of cells. . .

Until it's wanted.

 

[elektra]

Same for short term politicians, like those only in the game since 2016 and out of office again in 2028.

Yep, I can admit as much, and with that Trump is still the most important president of our lifetime

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Perfect example. . . a human being in the womb is just an unwanted blob of cells. . .

Until it's wanted.

What's the time period for that Act, in Your Belief Chuz?

 

[forkup]

Consider the possibility of the Liberals, & Conservatives, working "Hand-in-Hand" towards a "Joint Goal". which is "Your Daily Programing".​

With Today's Technology, The Internet, and now "AI",...... "Herding/Programing the Masses" can be Instantaneous!
Ponder on what Hitler, Mao, & Stalin, & Pol Pot, could've accomplished, if they had Today's Technology.
Ponder on what is going on, regarding the "Herding/Programing the Masses" in the so called "Free World"!

It's "Orwellian"!

​

================​

​

Question Everything​

by Tyler Durden
Authored...
Authored by Jeff Thomas via InternationalMan.com,

"The average person in the First World receives far more information than he would if he lived in a Second or Third World country. In many countries of the world, the very idea of twenty-four hour television news coverage would be unthinkable, yet many Westerners feel that, without this constant input, they would be woefully uninformed."

Alternate Possibilities​

"The proof of this is that those who have been programmed, tend to react with anger when they encounter a Nigel Farage or a Ron Paul, who might well challenge them to consider a third option—an interpretation beyond the narrow conservative and liberal views of events. In truth, on any issue, there exists a wide field of alternate possibilities.

By contrast, it is not uncommon for people outside the First World to have better instincts when encountering a news item. If they do not receive the BBC, Fox News, or CNN, they are likely, when learning of a political event, to think through, on their own, what the event means to them.

As they are not pre-programmed to follow one narrow line of reasoning or another, they are open to a broad range of possibilities. Each individual, based upon his personal experience, is likely to draw a different conclusion and, thorough discourse with others, is likely to continue to update his opinion each time he receives a new viewpoint.

As a result, it is not uncommon for those who are not “plugged-in” to be not only more open-minded, but more imaginative in their considerations, even when they are less educated and less “informed” than those in the First World."

"Unfortunately, what is encouraged is one of two views—either the liberal view or the conservative view. Other views are discouraged.

The liberal view espouses that a powerful liberal government is necessary to control the greed of capitalists, taxing and regulating them as much as possible to limit their ability to victimise the poorer classes.

The conservative view espouses that a powerful conservative government is needed to control the liberals, who threaten to create chaos and moral collapse through such efforts as gay rights, legalised abortion, etc."

I'm sorry but I have several problems with this opinion.

First it's the idea of information. The problem isn't that people have access to lots of information but that people don't know what constitutes correct information.

In fact, because no matter what opinion you have, you can always find "information " that agrees with your view. Human nature dictates that you will give credence to that information and reject the information that disagrees.

Neither can you expect most people to overcome that confirmation bias by doing their own research. Because that just tends to be a euphemism for having fringe views that takes you beyond the mainstream to confirm. In other words it doesn't make the problem better but worse.

I also don't agree with the choice that is presented. Sure at it's extremes that's how it's presented but there are plenty of liberals that aren't anti-capitalist perse. And plenty of conservatives that aren't supporting authoritarianism.

 

[Failzero]

Trusting Liberals means you must buy that Pedo / NAMBLA/ MAP types are Just Another Alternative Lifestyle and deserving of Special Rights & Protections as part of the LGBTQPNM Community .

 

[Mac1958]

The hardcore partisan ideologues on each end have control right now because our "system" incentivizes and rewards the worst behaviors of its participants. The ideologues are just playing by the rules that We The People give them. Drop a rat into a snake's cage, and the snake is going to do what a snake is going to do.

I remember seeing many polls years back, that said that a majority of the American people want our "leaders" from both parties to work together like intelligent adults to make America better. I don't even know if that's what the American people want any more. All the energy right now is in division. So we deserve what we get.

 

[kyzr]

Trusting Liberals means you must buy that Pedo / NAMBLA/ MAP types are Just Another Alternative Lifestyle and deserving of Special Rights & Protections as part of the LGBTQPNM Community .

Don't forget butchering kids, men can get pregnant, parents have no rights over their kids, and men can compete in women's sports.

 

[Mac1958]

 

[my2¢]

I have respect for some liberals and conservatives. It's mostly partisan Democrats and Republicans that allow their chosen media to lead them by the nose that I see as too lazy to think for themselves.

 

[Failzero]

I have respect for some liberals and conservatives. It's mostly partisan Democrats and Republicans that allow their chosen media to lead them by the nose that I see as too lazy to think for themselves.

The Mighty Newsmax ? ( **** Foxsnews )

 

[BluesLegend]

Consider the possibility of the Liberals, & Conservatives, working "Hand-in-Hand" towards a "Joint Goal".​

I'd sooner drill a hole in my upper molar.

 

[my2¢]

The Mighty Newsmax ? ( **** Foxsnews )

I not aware of Newsmax. In my mind CNN and Fox News is to journalism as what McDonalds is to fine dining.

 

[Failzero]

I not aware of Newsmax. In my mind CNN and Fox News is to journalism as what McDonalds is to fine dining.

Foxsnews moved to the left ( from middle left ) years ago

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

I'm sorry but I have several problems with this opinion.

First it's the idea of information. The problem isn't that people have access to lots of information but that people don't know what constitutes correct information.

In fact, because no matter what opinion you have, you can always find "information " that agrees with your view. Human nature dictates that you will give credence to that information and reject the information that disagrees.

Neither can you expect most people to overcome that confirmation bias by doing their own research. Because that just tends to be a euphemism for having fringe views that takes you beyond the mainstream to confirm. In other words it doesn't make the problem better but worse.

I also don't agree with the choice that is presented. Sure at it's extremes that's how it's presented but there are plenty of liberals that aren't anti-capitalist perse. And plenty of conservatives that aren't supporting authoritarianism.

I'm "Sorry", that You are "Sorry" Forkup. But, I have to disagree for several reasons.......

Even before the printing Press was invented, Those that Seek, or already have "Power", have always sought in one fashion or another to Manipulate/Influence the People. Whether it was a "Just & True Cause", or an "Absolute Lie", the Individual/Small group of people, strived to "Stir up the Masses".

Getting information to the People, be it True,or False, via "Printed material", Radio, TV, rallied the "People" to a Cause that they believed to be "True". In the beginning the "Printed material" could be weeks, even months old, yet it still "Stirred the People". In Today's World, Data can be instantly shared, and again,... It may be True, or It may be False, and again,.... It is a means to Influence/Control the People, and I'll say it again, "It's Orwellian" with reference to the book "1984".

"In fact, because no matter what opinion you have, you can always find "information " that agrees with your view. Human nature dictates that you will give credence to that information and reject the information that disagrees."
A "Truth",... Is not an "Opinion",... Examples of this are.:
When the Sun rises we begin the "Day", when the Sunlight retreats, we begin the Night.
Children, born with a Penis, are Males. Children born with a Vagina are Females. One can butcher their body, so as to change their Sex, but that will never enable them to change the Biological Function intended for them. Furthermore,... Creation shows that a Male, & Female are required for Reproduction. Two males having Anal Sex will never produce any children, and whatever two females do, will not produce a child. This proves that Sodomy, even though it is rapidly spreading around the World, is Absolutely Not Natural, and "Biblically" it is Forbidden.
Gravity exists.
Water runs down to the lowest point. ---- There are many, many "Truths" in Our World, that absolutely are not "Opinions".
"Neither can you expect most people to overcome that confirmation bias by doing their own research."

I Agree, & That is not only Sad, but Shocking. I actually Believe that over time, that here in America our Youth have been Intentionally Dumbed Down via Our Public School System. I have books that My "Highly Educated", Mother in Law used as she attended a "One Room School House". Those Books when I studied them, "Blew My Mind!", because they were a Much Higher Level of Teaching, than what I received in the 1960s, because their Contents, were on Par with what I studied in College!

My children in Grade school, received a lower grade of Education than I did! I consistently argued with their Teachers over many issues, such as "Using Calculators to do their Math Work"!

Again, I Agree, but,..... But I Absolutely Believe that those that Know what is going on, should inform those that do not Know, be it a Secular Matter, or a "Biblical Matter"