Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[kaz]

Damn ... there you go confusing the left with facts again!!

Don't you know the left can't count past 20? Well, the men can count to 21, (probably closer to 20 1/2) .... ??

They are "facts" because some random douche on the innertubes asserts so, or because said random douche is endorsed by Bripat?

With the flow of drugs across the open border, $148 billion is conservative. Then there's 23% of Federal prisoners are illegal aliens. Illegal aliens are filling schools, emergency rooms. Besides the overt cost savings, the safety and security of the United States would be greatly enhanced by a wall

 

[Indeependent]

Sure.

Jake the fake thinks illegals are brought by the stork and doesn't use the emergency rooms to deliver all their baby's....

That makes no sense.
Illegals take risks to get work so then can send back money.
Females almost never come along because it is too dangerous and the work too hard.
So there are very few illegals using the ER.

Have you ever been to an ER in NYC or Nassau County?
The entire family is there.

 

[kaz]

Sure.

Jake the fake thinks illegals are brought by the stork and doesn't use the emergency rooms to deliver all their baby's....

That makes no sense.
Illegals take risks to get work so then can send back money.
Females almost never come along because it is too dangerous and the work too hard.
So there are very few illegals using the ER.

Have you ever been to an ER in NYC or Nassau County?
The entire family is there.

Yes, he's just making up what he wants to believe

 

[danielpalos]

Only lousy capitalists lose money on border policies.

Exactly. Hence the premise of this thread, dumb ass. Thus the reason we are building the wall.

Trump's Wall Costs $21 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148 Billion Yearly—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial

walls don't generate revenue, usually. We need the Great Walls of America, for that.

and, any money even illegals circulate in our economy, contributes to a positive multiplier effect.

nobody takes the right wing seriously about capitalism.

 

[danielpalos]

Pocahontas is at it once again...

Oof. A lot to unpack here. Let's break this down. First, there's the line:

“One of the things we have to remember is we need an immigration system that is effective, that focuses on where real problems are.”

What exactly does that mean? Because in the past week alone, ICE has hauled off an illegal immigrant charged with murder in Mexico and a literal Nazi. If anything, the system failed in not preventing the entry of the illegal immigrant who murdered Mollie Tibbetts.

She’s exponentially more interested in helping Mexicans than she is in helping Americans.

THIS is a prime example of anti-logic, postmodernist spin

They attack the system for not being effective in keeping people out, and their answer is to create a new system that purposefully lets in everyone.


THey are insane and vile at the same time.

Only lousy capitalists lose money on border policies.

Only vile capitalists want to use slave labor to undercut the wages of their fellow citizens.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Sure.

Jake the fake thinks illegals are brought by the stork and doesn't use the emergency rooms to deliver all their baby's....

That makes no sense.
Illegals take risks to get work so then can send back money.
Females almost never come along because it is too dangerous and the work too hard.
So there are very few illegals using the ER.

Makes no sense, where do you think they got the term anchor babies from? Heck a few years ago 60 minutes had a huge segment on how illegals using the ERs in Florida was bankrupting the system.

 

[danielpalos]

only lousy capitalists lose money on border policy.

 

[Unkotare]

Sure.

Jake the fake thinks illegals are brought by the stork and doesn't use the emergency rooms to deliver all their baby's....

That makes no sense.
Illegals take risks to get work so then can send back money.
Females almost never come along because it is too dangerous and the work too hard.
So there are very few illegals using the ER.

Makes no sense, where do you think they got the term anchor babies from? Heck a few years ago 60 minutes had a huge segment on how illegals using the ERs in Florida was bankrupting the system.

When the doctors give the babies to their parents, do they put them on top of the receipt?

 

[Wyatt earp]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

Right, but the wall isn't going to do much to solve the problem of illegal immigrants.

Here’s the Reality About Illegal Immigrants in the United States

There are an estimated 11 million illegals in the US.

6 million of them are from Mexico.

Blue is 10 years or more residency in the US.
Gray is less than 5 years.
Blue is above 60%
Gray is below 20%

This one is blue - overstayed visas at 250,000 people
The gray one - crossed over the border with Mexico at about 140,000 people in 2013.

So the wall might stop 140,000 people a year from entering the US of the 11 million illegal immigrants.

So you say $148 billion is the cost of illegal immigrants.

That's 1.2% of the people.

1.2% of $148 billion is $1.7 billion.

So, Trump is going to pay $21 billion to tackle a problem that is $1.7 billion.

Then there's the cost the wall will cost in upkeep every year.

"Although walls are a simple and time-tested strategy—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so too did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain"

Then your source writes this.

The Great Wall of China did it's job huh?

The existing wall in Ming Dynasty from 1386-1644, it was replaced by the Qing Dynasty which was from Mongolia. Yeah, other side of the wall.

Worked well, huh?

The Roman Hadrian's Wall isn't so clear.

There's something called the Antonine Wall. The Roman's built it. Wait, what? So, if Hadrian's Wall was designed to keep the Scots out, what were the Romans doing building a wall much further north?

The second wall didn't last long for the Romans, as they were kicked out of southern Scotland.

The Romans were gone by 410 AD. Last coins found there were from 403-406.

Did it do well? Was it even designed to stop the Scots getting into England? No idea.

How about the wall keeping your dogs from going into your nieghbors yard?



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[Wyatt earp]

Sure.

Jake the fake thinks illegals are brought by the stork and doesn't use the emergency rooms to deliver all their baby's....

That makes no sense.
Illegals take risks to get work so then can send back money.
Females almost never come along because it is too dangerous and the work too hard.
So there are very few illegals using the ER.

Makes no sense, where do you think they got the term anchor babies from? Heck a few years ago 60 minutes had a huge segment on how illegals using the ERs in Florida was bankrupting the system.

When the doctors give the babies to their parents, do they put them on top of the receipt?

And that is relevant to the OP how burger flipper?


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[Unkotare]

Sure.

Jake the fake thinks illegals are brought by the stork and doesn't use the emergency rooms to deliver all their baby's....

That makes no sense.
Illegals take risks to get work so then can send back money.
Females almost never come along because it is too dangerous and the work too hard.
So there are very few illegals using the ER.

Makes no sense, where do you think they got the term anchor babies from? Heck a few years ago 60 minutes had a huge segment on how illegals using the ERs in Florida was bankrupting the system.

When the doctors give the babies to their parents, do they put them on top of the receipt?

And that is relevant to the OP how burger flipper?


.

Do you flip burgers with the receipt right on the burger?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Jake the fake thinks illegals are brought by the stork and doesn't use the emergency rooms to deliver all their baby's....

That makes no sense.
Illegals take risks to get work so then can send back money.
Females almost never come along because it is too dangerous and the work too hard.
So there are very few illegals using the ER.

Makes no sense, where do you think they got the term anchor babies from? Heck a few years ago 60 minutes had a huge segment on how illegals using the ERs in Florida was bankrupting the system.

When the doctors give the babies to their parents, do they put them on top of the receipt?

And that is relevant to the OP how burger flipper?


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Do you flip burgers with the receipt right on the burger?

I get twits like you to make me burgers and once again what does this have to do with the OP? You have a stick up your ass again about me?

 

[Hossfly]

Read it and weep leftards. What is your comeback to this revelation? It's about the wall Mexico is building.


TRUMP’S LATEST DEAL WITH MEXICO SAVES US SO MUCH MONEY, WE MAY BE ABLE TO BUILD THE WALL!

The new trade deal with Mexico will save this country tens of billions of dollars over the next several years, if not hundreds of billions. More than enough to pay for the wall. Maybe it’s not the way you expected it, but Mexico is definitely paying for the wall.

President Trump’s biggest promise has been fulfilled. The Democrats and the media will never admit it and no doubt, they will spin the deal with Mexico as a bad thing. They will never admit that Trump is capable of doing great things. But he does them anyway.

That was all before President Trump announced a United States-Mexico trade agreement. Because Trump talked tough and never gave in, US workers will benefit. US carmakers will benefit. US manufacturers will benefit. US taxpayers will benefit. Trump did it. He won. We all won. Trump announced he will terminate NAFTA.


Trump's Latest Deal With Mexico Saves Us So Much Money, We May Be Able To Build The Wall!!

 

[Unkotare]

That makes no sense.
Illegals take risks to get work so then can send back money.
Females almost never come along because it is too dangerous and the work too hard.
So there are very few illegals using the ER.

Makes no sense, where do you think they got the term anchor babies from? Heck a few years ago 60 minutes had a huge segment on how illegals using the ERs in Florida was bankrupting the system.

When the doctors give the babies to their parents, do they put them on top of the receipt?

And that is relevant to the OP how burger flipper?


.

Do you flip burgers with the receipt right on the burger?

I get twits like you to make me burgers and once again what does this have to do with the OP? You have a stick up your ass again about me?

I don’t see why I would make you a burger. I wouldn’t even let you in my house stinking of cigarettes.

 

[Correll]

Pocahontas is at it once again...

Oof. A lot to unpack here. Let's break this down. First, there's the line:

“One of the things we have to remember is we need an immigration system that is effective, that focuses on where real problems are.”

What exactly does that mean? Because in the past week alone, ICE has hauled off an illegal immigrant charged with murder in Mexico and a literal Nazi. If anything, the system failed in not preventing the entry of the illegal immigrant who murdered Mollie Tibbetts.

She’s exponentially more interested in helping Mexicans than she is in helping Americans.

THIS is a prime example of anti-logic, postmodernist spin

They attack the system for not being effective in keeping people out, and their answer is to create a new system that purposefully lets in everyone.


THey are insane and vile at the same time.

Only lousy capitalists lose money on border policies.

Only vile capitalists want to use slave labor to undercut the wages of their fellow citizens.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.

Thanks for telling US what we need, Mexican.


We obviously disagree with you. Does Mexico have a 15 dollar an hour min wage? Go tell it to them, that is your home anyways

 

[danielpalos]

Pocahontas is at it once again...
She’s exponentially more interested in helping Mexicans than she is in helping Americans.

THIS is a prime example of anti-logic, postmodernist spin

They attack the system for not being effective in keeping people out, and their answer is to create a new system that purposefully lets in everyone.


THey are insane and vile at the same time.

Only lousy capitalists lose money on border policies.

Only vile capitalists want to use slave labor to undercut the wages of their fellow citizens.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.

Thanks for telling US what we need, Mexican.


We obviously disagree with you. Does Mexico have a 15 dollar an hour min wage? Go tell it to them, that is your home anyways

not enough gray matter to go around on the right wing?

 

[Correll]

They attack the system for not being effective in keeping people out, and their answer is to create a new system that purposefully lets in everyone.


THey are insane and vile at the same time.

Only lousy capitalists lose money on border policies.

Only vile capitalists want to use slave labor to undercut the wages of their fellow citizens.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.

Thanks for telling US what we need, Mexican.


We obviously disagree with you. Does Mexico have a 15 dollar an hour min wage? Go tell it to them, that is your home anyways

not enough gray matter to go around on the right wing?

Knowing that you are a Mexican is not a sign of stupidity.

 

[danielpalos]

Only lousy capitalists lose money on border policies.

Only vile capitalists want to use slave labor to undercut the wages of their fellow citizens.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.

Thanks for telling US what we need, Mexican.


We obviously disagree with you. Does Mexico have a 15 dollar an hour min wage? Go tell it to them, that is your home anyways

not enough gray matter to go around on the right wing?

Knowing that you are a Mexican is not a sign of stupidity.

ok. how about a superior argument; or, i get to "file a grievance with the superiority committee."

Too inferior to be taken seriously.

 

[Correll]

Only vile capitalists want to use slave labor to undercut the wages of their fellow citizens.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.

Thanks for telling US what we need, Mexican.


We obviously disagree with you. Does Mexico have a 15 dollar an hour min wage? Go tell it to them, that is your home anyways

not enough gray matter to go around on the right wing?

Knowing that you are a Mexican is not a sign of stupidity.

ok. how about a superior argument; or, i get to "file a grievance with the superiority committee."

Too inferior to be taken seriously.

I did that when I pointed out that slave wages are not good for America.


Since then you have just been playing your normal silly games.

 

[danielpalos]

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.

Thanks for telling US what we need, Mexican.


We obviously disagree with you. Does Mexico have a 15 dollar an hour min wage? Go tell it to them, that is your home anyways

not enough gray matter to go around on the right wing?

Knowing that you are a Mexican is not a sign of stupidity.

ok. how about a superior argument; or, i get to "file a grievance with the superiority committee."

Too inferior to be taken seriously.

I did that when I pointed out that slave wages are not good for America.


Since then you have just been playing your normal silly games.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.

i don't take the right wing seriously about any inflation canard. other than that, you have no valid rebuttals.