Trumps Unholy Alliance With Catholicism In Full View At Al Smith Dinner

[skews13]

The charity affair is named for Al Smith, the first Catholic to represent a major party as its presidential candidate. Smith, born in 1873, grew up impoverished in New York. He dropped out of his parochial elementary school when his father, an Italian immigrant, died when He was 13. Smith never attended high school but found his way in and around the Tammany Hall political machine because of his oratorical skills. Elected governor of New York four times, his popularity led to a presidential run against Herbert Hoover which ended in a landslide loss partly attributed to anti-Catholic sentiment in the nation. Smith lost the 1932 nomination for president to his successor Franklin Roosevelt who had succeeded him as governor.

Lapsed and Forgotten​

In a reversal of fortunes, the national hierarchy of the church has entered into a transactional arrangement with Donald Trump that is centered on abortion. White Catholic voters have followed their leaders in supporting Trump in both of his campaigns for president and this year PEW Research cites polling that shows that Trump has a vast lead among white Catholics with 61% stating that if voting were held today they would support Trump— 38% intend to vote for Harris. That gap is only exceeded by white evangelical support (81% to 16% for Harris). When all Catholics are counted the gap narrows to an even split. The American church has fallen on hard times, mostly of their own making. The priestly sexual abuse scandals have rocked the church. Catholic churches abandoned many urban areas where its immigrant parishes once flourished. Now, Sunday mass attendance is falling. The bishops have followed their wealthier flock to the suburbs. The church has decided to mix politics and religion into a toxic brew that has divided its followers and added to its theological entanglement for what they were once admonished to “render unto Caesar…”.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York, expressed disappointment that Kamala Harris chose to campaign in Wisconsin rather than attend the dinner in person (she sent a video). Meanwhile, he embraced Trump whose adult behaviors would appear to be antithetical to any religion’s core values— and certainly the ones drilled into us by our parish nuns and priests. Before he threatened to dissolve the Constitution, Trump had eviscerated the commandments— the simple moral guideposts that along with the Golden Rule have endured. When asked for the greatest commandment, Christ responded, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind," then He added, "'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

In their moralistic intransigence, the church in America has forgotten Jesus’s great commandment. The basic tenets found in most religions are as pertinent today as they were in biblical times. Donald Trump has lived a public life paying little heed to societal rules, often skirting them with impunity. Consider him a “prodigal son” who has continued his “prodigaling” with no intentions of returning to the Father. The fatted calf is safe.

At the dinner, Dolan was seated next to the Philanderer-in-Chief and led off the speaking stating while motioning toward the exPOTUS "We need you more than ever," then referring to Trump as his “neighbor” who was "working so hard to see that we can safely return to church as safely possible.” Under different circumstances, the phony praise could be dismissed as a courtesy if not for the consequences of Dolan’s and many American Catholic bishops' transactional Faustian bargain with the MAGA GOP:

Trump's unholy alliance with Catholicism in full view at Al Smith dinner...

with apologies to my cabrini Nuns who thought they taught me better So, Catholics invited the original sinner to their party this week, and the church heard his confession: “Bless me, Father... " Donald’s next words were unnecessarily, sinfully, mean....

www.dailykos.com

 

[crossbody]

The charity affair is named for Al Smith, the first Catholic to represent a major party as its presidential candidate. Smith, born in 1873, grew up impoverished in New York. He dropped out of his parochial elementary school when his father, an Italian immigrant, died when He was 13. Smith never attended high school but found his way in and around the Tammany Hall political machine because of his oratorical skills. Elected governor of New York four times, his popularity led to a presidential run against Herbert Hoover which ended in a landslide loss partly attributed to anti-Catholic sentiment in the nation. Smith lost the 1932 nomination for president to his successor Franklin Roosevelt who had succeeded him as governor.

Lapsed and Forgotten​

In a reversal of fortunes, the national hierarchy of the church has entered into a transactional arrangement with Donald Trump that is centered on abortion. White Catholic voters have followed their leaders in supporting Trump in both of his campaigns for president and this year PEW Research cites polling that shows that Trump has a vast lead among white Catholics with 61% stating that if voting were held today they would support Trump— 38% intend to vote for Harris. That gap is only exceeded by white evangelical support (81% to 16% for Harris). When all Catholics are counted the gap narrows to an even split. The American church has fallen on hard times, mostly of their own making. The priestly sexual abuse scandals have rocked the church. Catholic churches abandoned many urban areas where its immigrant parishes once flourished. Now, Sunday mass attendance is falling. The bishops have followed their wealthier flock to the suburbs. The church has decided to mix politics and religion into a toxic brew that has divided its followers and added to its theological entanglement for what they were once admonished to “render unto Caesar…”.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York, expressed disappointment that Kamala Harris chose to campaign in Wisconsin rather than attend the dinner in person (she sent a video). Meanwhile, he embraced Trump whose adult behaviors would appear to be antithetical to any religion’s core values— and certainly the ones drilled into us by our parish nuns and priests. Before he threatened to dissolve the Constitution, Trump had eviscerated the commandments— the simple moral guideposts that along with the Golden Rule have endured. When asked for the greatest commandment, Christ responded, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind," then He added, "'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

In their moralistic intransigence, the church in America has forgotten Jesus’s great commandment. The basic tenets found in most religions are as pertinent today as they were in biblical times. Donald Trump has lived a public life paying little heed to societal rules, often skirting them with impunity. Consider him a “prodigal son” who has continued his “prodigaling” with no intentions of returning to the Father. The fatted calf is safe.

At the dinner, Dolan was seated next to the Philanderer-in-Chief and led off the speaking stating while motioning toward the exPOTUS "We need you more than ever," then referring to Trump as his “neighbor” who was "working so hard to see that we can safely return to church as safely possible.” Under different circumstances, the phony praise could be dismissed as a courtesy if not for the consequences of Dolan’s and many American Catholic bishops' transactional Faustian bargain with the MAGA GOP:

Trump's unholy alliance with Catholicism in full view at Al Smith dinner...

with apologies to my cabrini Nuns who thought they taught me better So, Catholics invited the original sinner to their party this week, and the church heard his confession: “Bless me, Father... " Donald’s next words were unnecessarily, sinfully, mean....

www.dailykos.com

Trump needs to embarrass the Catholics as well as the Jews.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

The charity affair is named for Al Smith, the first Catholic to represent a major party as its presidential candidate. Smith, born in 1873, grew up impoverished in New York. He dropped out of his parochial elementary school when his father, an Italian immigrant, died when He was 13. Smith never attended high school but found his way in and around the Tammany Hall political machine because of his oratorical skills. Elected governor of New York four times, his popularity led to a presidential run against Herbert Hoover which ended in a landslide loss partly attributed to anti-Catholic sentiment in the nation. Smith lost the 1932 nomination for president to his successor Franklin Roosevelt who had succeeded him as governor.

Lapsed and Forgotten​

In a reversal of fortunes, the national hierarchy of the church has entered into a transactional arrangement with Donald Trump that is centered on abortion. White Catholic voters have followed their leaders in supporting Trump in both of his campaigns for president and this year PEW Research cites polling that shows that Trump has a vast lead among white Catholics with 61% stating that if voting were held today they would support Trump— 38% intend to vote for Harris. That gap is only exceeded by white evangelical support (81% to 16% for Harris). When all Catholics are counted the gap narrows to an even split. The American church has fallen on hard times, mostly of their own making. The priestly sexual abuse scandals have rocked the church. Catholic churches abandoned many urban areas where its immigrant parishes once flourished. Now, Sunday mass attendance is falling. The bishops have followed their wealthier flock to the suburbs. The church has decided to mix politics and religion into a toxic brew that has divided its followers and added to its theological entanglement for what they were once admonished to “render unto Caesar…”.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York, expressed disappointment that Kamala Harris chose to campaign in Wisconsin rather than attend the dinner in person (she sent a video). Meanwhile, he embraced Trump whose adult behaviors would appear to be antithetical to any religion’s core values— and certainly the ones drilled into us by our parish nuns and priests. Before he threatened to dissolve the Constitution, Trump had eviscerated the commandments— the simple moral guideposts that along with the Golden Rule have endured. When asked for the greatest commandment, Christ responded, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind," then He added, "'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

In their moralistic intransigence, the church in America has forgotten Jesus’s great commandment. The basic tenets found in most religions are as pertinent today as they were in biblical times. Donald Trump has lived a public life paying little heed to societal rules, often skirting them with impunity. Consider him a “prodigal son” who has continued his “prodigaling” with no intentions of returning to the Father. The fatted calf is safe.

At the dinner, Dolan was seated next to the Philanderer-in-Chief and led off the speaking stating while motioning toward the exPOTUS "We need you more than ever," then referring to Trump as his “neighbor” who was "working so hard to see that we can safely return to church as safely possible.” Under different circumstances, the phony praise could be dismissed as a courtesy if not for the consequences of Dolan’s and many American Catholic bishops' transactional Faustian bargain with the MAGA GOP:

Trump's unholy alliance with Catholicism in full view at Al Smith dinner...

with apologies to my cabrini Nuns who thought they taught me better So, Catholics invited the original sinner to their party this week, and the church heard his confession: “Bless me, Father... " Donald’s next words were unnecessarily, sinfully, mean....

www.dailykos.com

Catholicism has a right to take a peak at candidates stances and see which aligns more with doctrine.

It’s an objective fact that GOP/conservative values align with Catholicism more than leftist/Democrat values.

The article is just a temper tantrum whining about this fact.

 

[Auld Phart]

The charity affair is named for Al Smith, the first Catholic to represent a major party as its presidential candidate. Smith, born in 1873, grew up impoverished in New York. He dropped out of his parochial elementary school when his father, an Italian immigrant, died when He was 13. Smith never attended high school but found his way in and around the Tammany Hall political machine because of his oratorical skills. Elected governor of New York four times, his popularity led to a presidential run against Herbert Hoover which ended in a landslide loss partly attributed to anti-Catholic sentiment in the nation. Smith lost the 1932 nomination for president to his successor Franklin Roosevelt who had succeeded him as governor.

Lapsed and Forgotten​

In a reversal of fortunes, the national hierarchy of the church has entered into a transactional arrangement with Donald Trump that is centered on abortion. White Catholic voters have followed their leaders in supporting Trump in both of his campaigns for president and this year PEW Research cites polling that shows that Trump has a vast lead among white Catholics with 61% stating that if voting were held today they would support Trump— 38% intend to vote for Harris. That gap is only exceeded by white evangelical support (81% to 16% for Harris). When all Catholics are counted the gap narrows to an even split. The American church has fallen on hard times, mostly of their own making. The priestly sexual abuse scandals have rocked the church. Catholic churches abandoned many urban areas where its immigrant parishes once flourished. Now, Sunday mass attendance is falling. The bishops have followed their wealthier flock to the suburbs. The church has decided to mix politics and religion into a toxic brew that has divided its followers and added to its theological entanglement for what they were once admonished to “render unto Caesar…”.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York, expressed disappointment that Kamala Harris chose to campaign in Wisconsin rather than attend the dinner in person (she sent a video). Meanwhile, he embraced Trump whose adult behaviors would appear to be antithetical to any religion’s core values— and certainly the ones drilled into us by our parish nuns and priests. Before he threatened to dissolve the Constitution, Trump had eviscerated the commandments— the simple moral guideposts that along with the Golden Rule have endured. When asked for the greatest commandment, Christ responded, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind," then He added, "'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

In their moralistic intransigence, the church in America has forgotten Jesus’s great commandment. The basic tenets found in most religions are as pertinent today as they were in biblical times. Donald Trump has lived a public life paying little heed to societal rules, often skirting them with impunity. Consider him a “prodigal son” who has continued his “prodigaling” with no intentions of returning to the Father. The fatted calf is safe.

At the dinner, Dolan was seated next to the Philanderer-in-Chief and led off the speaking stating while motioning toward the exPOTUS "We need you more than ever," then referring to Trump as his “neighbor” who was "working so hard to see that we can safely return to church as safely possible.” Under different circumstances, the phony praise could be dismissed as a courtesy if not for the consequences of Dolan’s and many American Catholic bishops' transactional Faustian bargain with the MAGA GOP:

Trump's unholy alliance with Catholicism in full view at Al Smith dinner...

with apologies to my cabrini Nuns who thought they taught me better So, Catholics invited the original sinner to their party this week, and the church heard his confession: “Bless me, Father... " Donald’s next words were unnecessarily, sinfully, mean....

www.dailykos.com

 

[DGS49]

Well, what would "skews13" have posted here if KH had shown up at the Al Smith dinner? Would it mention that she and her supporters have spent tens of millions of dollars promoting a phony promise to reinstate the right of American women to kill their babies in the womb?

 

[skews13]

Catholicism has a right to take a peak at candidates stances and see which aligns more with doctrine.

It’s an objective fact that GOP/conservative values align with Catholicism more than leftist/Democrat values.

The article is just a temper tantrum whining about this fact.

Yep. The pedophiles definitely align with GOP values, more the Democratic values.

It's easy to see why the Founders wanted them far from politics. They remember first hand the disastrous history of Catholicism in middle ages Europe.

Discounting of course, Catholics that do follow the teachings of Christ, and not the Golden Calf crowd at the Al Smith dinners.

 

[Lisa558]

Yep. The pedophiles definitely align with GOP values, more the Democratic values.

It's easy to see why the Founders wanted them far from politics. They remember first hand the disastrous history of Catholicism in middle ages Europe.

Discounting of course, Catholics that do follow the teachings of Christ, and not the Golden Calf crowd at the Al Smith dinners.

Golden calf crowd? is that what you libs call Jews these days?

 

[Arlette]

There is a satanic infestation in the Catholic Church.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Yep. The pedophiles definitely align with GOP values, more the Democratic values.

It's easy to see why the Founders wanted them far from politics. They remember first hand the disastrous history of Catholicism in middle ages Europe.

Discounting of course, Catholics that do follow the teachings of Christ, and not the Golden Calf crowd at the Al Smith dinners.

You appear to be attempting a pathetic ad hominem “gotcha” on a message board?

LOL

 

[Augustine_]

Meanwhile, he embraced Trump whose adult behaviors would appear to be antithetical to any religion’s core values— and certainly the ones drilled into us by our parish nuns and priests. Before he threatened to dissolve the Constitution, Trump had eviscerated the commandments— the simple moral guideposts that along with the Golden Rule have endured. When asked for the greatest commandment, Christ responded, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind," then He added, "'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

So accurate. A guy who follows maybe 1 commandment has become Christianity's representative in the U.S.

 

[d0gbreath]

Golden calf crowd? is that what you libs call Jews these days?

Persecution complex Lisa. I doubt that there was a crowd of Jewish people at the Al Smith dinner. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Lisa558]

Persecution complex Lisa. I doubt that there was a crowd of Jewish people at the Al Smith dinner. Correct me if I'm wrong.

So what did she mean by Golden Calf crowd? That’s an obvious reference to….duh….the Golden Calf and the Jews, and in a negative light of course.

 

[d0gbreath]

So what did she mean by Golden Calf crowd? That’s an obvious reference to….duh….the Golden Calf and the Jews, and in a negative light of course.

Few xtians know the golden calf worship story. Many probably think that it's an xtian story.
People make mistakes. To forgive is divine.

 

[gtopa1]

The charity affair is named for Al Smith, the first Catholic to represent a major party as its presidential candidate. Smith, born in 1873, grew up impoverished in New York. He dropped out of his parochial elementary school when his father, an Italian immigrant, died when He was 13. Smith never attended high school but found his way in and around the Tammany Hall political machine because of his oratorical skills. Elected governor of New York four times, his popularity led to a presidential run against Herbert Hoover which ended in a landslide loss partly attributed to anti-Catholic sentiment in the nation. Smith lost the 1932 nomination for president to his successor Franklin Roosevelt who had succeeded him as governor.

Lapsed and Forgotten​

In a reversal of fortunes, the national hierarchy of the church has entered into a transactional arrangement with Donald Trump that is centered on abortion. White Catholic voters have followed their leaders in supporting Trump in both of his campaigns for president and this year PEW Research cites polling that shows that Trump has a vast lead among white Catholics with 61% stating that if voting were held today they would support Trump— 38% intend to vote for Harris. That gap is only exceeded by white evangelical support (81% to 16% for Harris). When all Catholics are counted the gap narrows to an even split. The American church has fallen on hard times, mostly of their own making. The priestly sexual abuse scandals have rocked the church. Catholic churches abandoned many urban areas where its immigrant parishes once flourished. Now, Sunday mass attendance is falling. The bishops have followed their wealthier flock to the suburbs. The church has decided to mix politics and religion into a toxic brew that has divided its followers and added to its theological entanglement for what they were once admonished to “render unto Caesar…”.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York, expressed disappointment that Kamala Harris chose to campaign in Wisconsin rather than attend the dinner in person (she sent a video). Meanwhile, he embraced Trump whose adult behaviors would appear to be antithetical to any religion’s core values— and certainly the ones drilled into us by our parish nuns and priests. Before he threatened to dissolve the Constitution, Trump had eviscerated the commandments— the simple moral guideposts that along with the Golden Rule have endured. When asked for the greatest commandment, Christ responded, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind," then He added, "'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

In their moralistic intransigence, the church in America has forgotten Jesus’s great commandment. The basic tenets found in most religions are as pertinent today as they were in biblical times. Donald Trump has lived a public life paying little heed to societal rules, often skirting them with impunity. Consider him a “prodigal son” who has continued his “prodigaling” with no intentions of returning to the Father. The fatted calf is safe.

At the dinner, Dolan was seated next to the Philanderer-in-Chief and led off the speaking stating while motioning toward the exPOTUS "We need you more than ever," then referring to Trump as his “neighbor” who was "working so hard to see that we can safely return to church as safely possible.” Under different circumstances, the phony praise could be dismissed as a courtesy if not for the consequences of Dolan’s and many American Catholic bishops' transactional Faustian bargain with the MAGA GOP:

Trump's unholy alliance with Catholicism in full view at Al Smith dinner...

with apologies to my cabrini Nuns who thought they taught me better So, Catholics invited the original sinner to their party this week, and the church heard his confession: “Bless me, Father... " Donald’s next words were unnecessarily, sinfully, mean....

www.dailykos.com

He was hilarious!!

Greg

 

[Cellblock2429]

The charity affair is named for Al Smith, the first Catholic to represent a major party as its presidential candidate. Smith, born in 1873, grew up impoverished in New York. He dropped out of his parochial elementary school when his father, an Italian immigrant, died when He was 13. Smith never attended high school but found his way in and around the Tammany Hall political machine because of his oratorical skills. Elected governor of New York four times, his popularity led to a presidential run against Herbert Hoover which ended in a landslide loss partly attributed to anti-Catholic sentiment in the nation. Smith lost the 1932 nomination for president to his successor Franklin Roosevelt who had succeeded him as governor.

Lapsed and Forgotten​

In a reversal of fortunes, the national hierarchy of the church has entered into a transactional arrangement with Donald Trump that is centered on abortion. White Catholic voters have followed their leaders in supporting Trump in both of his campaigns for president and this year PEW Research cites polling that shows that Trump has a vast lead among white Catholics with 61% stating that if voting were held today they would support Trump— 38% intend to vote for Harris. That gap is only exceeded by white evangelical support (81% to 16% for Harris). When all Catholics are counted the gap narrows to an even split. The American church has fallen on hard times, mostly of their own making. The priestly sexual abuse scandals have rocked the church. Catholic churches abandoned many urban areas where its immigrant parishes once flourished. Now, Sunday mass attendance is falling. The bishops have followed their wealthier flock to the suburbs. The church has decided to mix politics and religion into a toxic brew that has divided its followers and added to its theological entanglement for what they were once admonished to “render unto Caesar…”.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York, expressed disappointment that Kamala Harris chose to campaign in Wisconsin rather than attend the dinner in person (she sent a video). Meanwhile, he embraced Trump whose adult behaviors would appear to be antithetical to any religion’s core values— and certainly the ones drilled into us by our parish nuns and priests. Before he threatened to dissolve the Constitution, Trump had eviscerated the commandments— the simple moral guideposts that along with the Golden Rule have endured. When asked for the greatest commandment, Christ responded, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind," then He added, "'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

In their moralistic intransigence, the church in America has forgotten Jesus’s great commandment. The basic tenets found in most religions are as pertinent today as they were in biblical times. Donald Trump has lived a public life paying little heed to societal rules, often skirting them with impunity. Consider him a “prodigal son” who has continued his “prodigaling” with no intentions of returning to the Father. The fatted calf is safe.

At the dinner, Dolan was seated next to the Philanderer-in-Chief and led off the speaking stating while motioning toward the exPOTUS "We need you more than ever," then referring to Trump as his “neighbor” who was "working so hard to see that we can safely return to church as safely possible.” Under different circumstances, the phony praise could be dismissed as a courtesy if not for the consequences of Dolan’s and many American Catholic bishops' transactional Faustian bargain with the MAGA GOP:

Trump's unholy alliance with Catholicism in full view at Al Smith dinner...

with apologies to my cabrini Nuns who thought they taught me better So, Catholics invited the original sinner to their party this week, and the church heard his confession: “Bless me, Father... " Donald’s next words were unnecessarily, sinfully, mean....

www.dailykos.com

/——/ Unholy alliance??? As a Catholic and Trump supporter, I ask that you go find a speeding bus and jump in front of it.

 

[gtopa1]

There is a satanic infestation in the Catholic Church.

Yeah; we've never been able to deal with them as I would like since they stopped the Inquisition!! You suggesting we bring it back? BTW; that'd be for about 1% if that; unlike DemoKKKrats and their alignment with the Satanic Temple!!!

• #458,130

You love it as much as Jonboi!!

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Persecution complex Lisa. I doubt that there was a crowd of Jewish people at the Al Smith dinner. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Who was sitting next to Trump? Trump even made him laugh!!

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

So what did she mean by Golden Calf crowd? That’s an obvious reference to….duh….the Golden Calf and the Jews, and in a negative light of course.

Boy did God ever give those who fell for the Pagan rites an ass whipping!! And the Jews took it with repentance and humility as a shining example to all who have failed God in their own way. And God forgave them in due course, and even gave Moses a photocopy (tablet form) to show it!!

It's one of my fav bits of the Bible as it shows the depth of God's forgiveness and Love and the Jews were humble and accepted that they had done wrong AND REPENTED. Beautiful imo but of course is it those aspects that hope and joy that "the Golden calf crowd" refers to? I'd say no.

Greg

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Few xtians know the golden calf worship story. Many probably think that it's an xtian story.
People make mistakes. To forgive is divine.

repentance is what’s necessary

Leftists don’t repent, they justify their stances that are against doctrine, and say the church is hateful and bigoted.

They think Christianity needs to change lol

 

[d0gbreath]

repentance is what’s necessary

Leftists don’t repent, they justify their stances that are against doctrine, and say the church is hateful and bigoted.

They think Christianity needs to change lol

Sin is necessary for repentance. If I have a stance that is against doctrine, then doctrine should take a hike.