Trumps tariffs could decrease the national debt by 4 trillion !

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

False tax cuts increased tax revenues spending increases the debt. Record tax revenues were collected after Trumps tax cuts because we had more jobs and a surging GDP that increased tax revenues.

And Hafar admits the tariffs are a national regressive sales tax.

 

[Hafar1014]

And Hafar admits the tariffs are a national regressive sales tax.

No I didnt thats your point. Tariffs are the solution to the deficit and debt

Despite CBO’s Predictions, Trump Tax Cuts Were a Boon for America’s Economy and Working Families | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

The truth is, the Trump tax cuts resulted in economic growth that was a full percentage point above CBO’s forecast, and federal revenues far outpaced the agency’s predictions. In fact, under Trump tax policies in 2022, tax revenues reached a record high of nearly $5 trillion, and revenues averaged $205 billion above CBO predictions for the four years following implementation of the law.
which lowered the cost of all their exports.
Manufacturers and sellers pay the tariffs. China devalued its currency to offset the tariffs.
A manufacturer must sell of bo broke. A buyer doesnt have to by which gives the consumer leverage. Prices come down.

Trump is transitioning America from a Biden debt based economy with massive government spending money it has to borrow and print to a wealth based economy that cuts government spending and inceases capital investment in real jobs

 

[ElmerMudd]

The CBO just agreed with me and its really just basic math. Tariffs are in track to bring in 1 trillion a year. The annual deficit is 1.6 trillion. Lets see in 2 years thats 2 trillion. More than enough. How hard was that. But I agree I dont know much about economics I just know how to make money.

I will not argue that tariff money can reduce deficit. My point is American business and citizens will be paying the tariffs. It is a tax.

 

[g5000]

The latest analysis from the CBO says Trumps tariffs could decrease the National debt by 4 trillion over the next decade ! a major step in the right direction !

Trump is bringing in enough revenue from tariffs to cut deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade, CBO says | Fortune

In just two months, Trump added another $1.5 trillion of deficit reduction in the form of new tariffs, CBO said. Still, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act will raise deficits by $3.4 trillion.

fortune.com

from the article ..
President Donald Trump’s hike in tariffs is projected to generate enough revenue to cut federal deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade, according to the latest analysis by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). The nonpartisan agency said it had updated its estimates of tariff revenues as part of the development of the short-term economic forecast covering 2025 to 2028, to be published on Sept. 1



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Totally fake news.

You did not read the fine print of the CBO report.

We project that increases in tariffs implemented during the period from January 6, 2025, to August 19 will decrease primary deficits (which exclude net outlays for interest) by $3.3 trillion if the higher tariffs persist for the 2025‒2035 period.
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When the Administration modifies tariffs through an administrative action, we assume that the tariffs then in effect will continue permanently without changes.
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Critical thinking in the MAGA cult is dead. Trump has you fools bleeving tariffs are paid by the export countries.

In fact, tariffs are a tax on YOU. They are paid by our importers, and passed on to YOU.

Watching you fools ejaculate on your faces over being taxed an extra $4 trillion is absolutely mystifying.

Oh. Here's something else in the CBO report Trump and your MAGA propagandists did not mention:

We estimate that the changes in tariffs, both by the United States and its trading partners, will reduce the size of the U.S. economy.

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The increases in tariffs will make consumer goods and capital goods (the physical assets that businesses use to produce goods and services) more expensive, which will reduce the purchasing power of U.S. consumers and businesses. Those increases in costs will put temporary upward pressure on inflation.


We are already seeing the inflationary effects of Trump's tariffs in the economy. It isn't going to get better.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No I didnt thats your point. Tariffs are the solution to the deficit and debt

Despite CBO’s Predictions, Trump Tax Cuts Were a Boon for America’s Economy and Working Families | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

The truth is, the Trump tax cuts resulted in economic growth that was a full percentage point above CBO’s forecast, and federal revenues far outpaced the agency’s predictions. In fact, under Trump tax policies in 2022, tax revenues reached a record high of nearly $5 trillion, and revenues averaged $205 billion above CBO predictions for the four years following implementation of the law.
which lowered the cost of all their exports.
Manufacturers and sellers pay the tariffs. China devalued its currency to offset the tariffs.
A manufacturer must sell of bo broke. A buyer doesnt have to by which gives the consumer leverage. Prices come down.
Trump is transitioning America from a Biden debt based economy with massive government spending money it has to borrow and print to a wealth based economy that cuts government spending and inceases capital investment in real jobs

Yep, Hafar knows the tariffs are a regressive national sales tax the middle and lower classes are picking up the tab for.

 

[Hafar1014]

Yep, Hafar knows the tariffs are a regressive national sales tax the middle and lower classes are picking up the tab for.

You didnt read it

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You didnt read it

You did not understand it.

 

[yidnar]

Totally fake news.

You did not read the fine print of the CBO report.

We project that increases in tariffs implemented during the period from January 6, 2025, to August 19 will decrease primary deficits (which exclude net outlays for interest) by $3.3 trillion if the higher tariffs persist for the 2025‒2035 period.
.
[snip]
.
When the Administration modifies tariffs through an administrative action, we assume that the tariffs then in effect will continue permanently without changes.
.

.
Critical thinking in the MAGA cult is dead. Trump has you fools bleeving tariffs are paid by the export countries.

In fact, tariffs are a tax on YOU. They are paid by our importers, and passed on to YOU.

Watching you fools ejaculate on your faces over being taxed an extra $4 trillion is absolutely mystifying.

Oh. Here's something else in the CBO report Trump and your MAGA propagandists did not mention:

We estimate that the changes in tariffs, both by the United States and its trading partners, will reduce the size of the U.S. economy.

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[snip]

.
The increases in tariffs will make consumer goods and capital goods (the physical assets that businesses use to produce goods and services) more expensive, which will reduce the purchasing power of U.S. consumers and businesses. Those increases in costs will put temporary upward pressure on inflation.


We are already seeing the inflationary effects of Trump's tariffs in the economy. It isn't going to get better.

the emotionally charged Marxist cant argue a point without spouting vulgarity .. typical trait of a leftist .. why is inflation down even though Tariffs have been raised ? we didn't hear a peep from the left when Bidens admin gave us a more than 20% tax on the cost of living in 2 short years due to Bidinflation ..

 

[yidnar]

But they won't.

because a POTUS in the future [especially a democrat ] will reverse all the gains .. MAGA will be the party that addresses debt .. no dem leaders are even talking about the National Debt .. at least republicans have leaders that are physical hawks ! especially the newer and younger leaders in the gop ..


As of mid-2025, prominent Republican fiscal hawks include members of the House Freedom Caucus and key senators who have recently expressed concerns over rising deficits during debates on tax and spending legislation. Their positions often involve advocating for deep cuts to federal spending to offset tax cuts and reduce the national debt.
House of Representatives

• Chip Roy (R-TX): A central figure in the House Freedom Caucus, Roy is known for challenging party leadership on spending and has recently been vocal about fiscal responsibility during the debate over tax bills. In August 2025, he announced his candidacy for Texas attorney general.
• Ralph Norman (R-SC): A hard-line conservative who worked with House Speaker Mike Johnson to negotiate a budget framework focused on fiscal restraint. He has publicly criticized spending increases and has insisted on higher spending cuts to offset tax reductions.
• Keith Self (R-TX): Another hard-line conservative who participated in negotiating the budget framework with Speaker Johnson and has been critical of Senate Republicans for ignoring the House's fiscal goals.
• Thomas Massie (R-KY): Known for his strict fiscal views, Massie has a history of voting against major spending and budget bills, including those passed by Republican leadership.
• Andy Biggs (R-AZ): A former chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, Biggs is a staunch fiscal conservative who has pushed for significant spending cuts.

Senate

• Rand Paul (R-KY): A longtime and outspoken fiscal conservative, Paul regularly draws a "red line" on spending and advocates for deeper cuts to the national debt. He was particularly vocal about fiscal issues during the debate over the "One Big Beautiful Bill" in June 2025.
• Ron Johnson (R-WI): A fiscal hawk who has joined Paul in pushing for more significant spending cuts to address the national debt.
• Mike Crapo (R-ID): A fiscal conservative who is concerned about rising deficits and has participated in recent discussions over tax and spending legislation.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Who do you think pays the tariffs? The US business pays the tariff when goods arrive in USA.
The business either absorbs the cost or pass on to the customer with higher prices.
Either way a tariff is a tax paid for by US businesses or by US consumers.

In most cases the consumer pays the tariffs in higher retail prices. But it's irrelevant because you still have the same household disposable income, so you simply buy/consume less. Only a dope would start over spending.

 

[ElmerMudd]

In most cases the consumer pays the tariffs in higher retail prices. But it's irrelevant because you still have the same household disposable income, so you simply buy/consume less. Only a dope would start over spending.

Are you serious. What a fricking dumb statement. Every dollar you spend goes toward something. When you buy a product where the tariff has been added to the price you are paying the tariff.
If they collect 4 trillion dollars in tariffs, the 4 trillion dollars is paid bt USA consumers and USA businesses.

 

[Moonglow]

because a POTUS in the future [especially a democrat ] will reverse all the gains .. MAGA will be the party that addresses debt .. no dem leaders are even talking about the National Debt .. at least republicans have leaders that are physical hawks ! especially the newer and younger leaders in the gop ..


As of mid-2025, prominent Republican fiscal hawks include members of the House Freedom Caucus and key senators who have recently expressed concerns over rising deficits during debates on tax and spending legislation. Their positions often involve advocating for deep cuts to federal spending to offset tax cuts and reduce the national debt.
House of Representatives

• Chip Roy (R-TX): A central figure in the House Freedom Caucus, Roy is known for challenging party leadership on spending and has recently been vocal about fiscal responsibility during the debate over tax bills. In August 2025, he announced his candidacy for Texas attorney general.
• Ralph Norman (R-SC): A hard-line conservative who worked with House Speaker Mike Johnson to negotiate a budget framework focused on fiscal restraint. He has publicly criticized spending increases and has insisted on higher spending cuts to offset tax reductions.
• Keith Self (R-TX): Another hard-line conservative who participated in negotiating the budget framework with Speaker Johnson and has been critical of Senate Republicans for ignoring the House's fiscal goals.
• Thomas Massie (R-KY): Known for his strict fiscal views, Massie has a history of voting against major spending and budget bills, including those passed by Republican leadership.
• Andy Biggs (R-AZ): A former chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, Biggs is a staunch fiscal conservative who has pushed for significant spending cuts.

Senate

• Rand Paul (R-KY): A longtime and outspoken fiscal conservative, Paul regularly draws a "red line" on spending and advocates for deeper cuts to the national debt. He was particularly vocal about fiscal issues during the debate over the "One Big Beautiful Bill" in June 2025.
• Ron Johnson (R-WI): A fiscal hawk who has joined Paul in pushing for more significant spending cuts to address the national debt.
• Mike Crapo (R-ID): A fiscal conservative who is concerned about rising deficits and has participated in recent discussions over tax and spending legislation.

It isn't paying down the debt now with Trump, the over-taxation dick.

 

[Moonglow]

Are you serious. What a fricking dumb statement. Every dollar you spend goes toward something. When you buy a product where the tariff has been added to the price you are paying the tariff.
If they collect 4 trillion dollars in tariffs, the 4 trillion dollars is paid bt USA consumers and USA businesses.

A tax increase.

 

[Moonglow]

In most cases the consumer pays the tariffs in higher retail prices. But it's irrelevant because you still have the same household disposable income, so you simply buy/consume less. Only a dope would start over spending.

Only a dope approves of a massive tax increase on the populace.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Are you serious. What a fricking dumb statement. Every dollar you spend goes toward something. When you buy a product where the tariff has been added to the price you are paying the tariff.
If they collect 4 trillion dollars in tariffs, the 4 trillion dollars is paid bt USA consumers and USA businesses.

I just said in most cases the tariff goes onto the cost of the retail goods. The price of goods goes up, your disposable income stays the same, you have to buy less because your money doesn't go as far.

 

[ElmerMudd]

What a retard. I just said in most cases the tariff goes onto the cost of the retail goods. Are you being thick on purpose? The price of goods goes up, your disposable income stays the same, you have to buy less because your money doesn't go as far. **** me your such a dense retard.

Read and comprehend you clown.

You haven't a clue what disposable income means.

I apologize. I thoght you were saying if you spend less you will not be paying tariff. My bad.

You are correct. It hurts those with less disposable income the most

 

[Captain Caveman]

I apologize. I thoght you were saying if you spend less you will not be paying tariff. My bad.

You are correct. It hurts those with less disposable income the most

No problem, I edited my post and took the rant out.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

MAGA can fathom that the tariffs are a regressive national sales tax on all of us.

 

[Muhammed]

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Economists warn that as businesses exhaust pre-tariff inventories, more price increases are likely. Goldman Sachs projects that tariffs could raise core inflation by 0.8–1.2 percentage points by year-end.

As opposed to 9.1% under Dem, Bidenomics?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

As opposed to 9.1% under Dem, Bidenomics?

... as caused by Trump's inability to cope with Covid's problems?

We are talking now, towel head, and your fakir in the WH is failing.