Trump’s side of the White House meltdown with Zelenski

[jknowgood]

Biden has nothing to do with this.

This is all Thursday's action by itself.

Trump screwed up.

If it wasn't for Biden, there would be no war. Trump is trying to right Biden's screw up.

 

[postman]

But frankly, we can’t undo the damage done by xiden. We are stuck in the reality of this deadly war and a Ukrainian president willing to simply let his people die instead of even entertaining a ceasefire and a possible end to the war.

Let me draw an analogy for you.

A woman is being brutally raped, and your plan is instead of fighting back to just let the rapist finish. And afterwards not even hold him accountable or prosecute him for the assault.

 

[postman]

What happened was that Trump melted down and Zelensky corrected him as would a school master.

This is just like Trump calling it the 1917 Spanish flu. When it was the 1918 Spanish flu.
Or calling them raw earth minerals, instead of rare earth minerals.

Trump also got the year of the Russian invasion into Ukraine wrong.

It would be like Trump talking about the war of 1812, and Zelensky insisting it was 1811.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

If it wasn't for Biden, there would be no war. Trump is trying to right Biden's screw up.

You don't hold the orange bag O' shit accountable for anything. No one's hearing your bullshit.

 

[postman]

If it wasn't for Biden, there would be no war. Trump is trying to right Biden's screw up.

Trump totally screwed up the response to covid-19. After he fired the white house office that was responsible for global pandemics.
And you would think he learned a thing or two about handling disease outbreaks.
Well, when it came to bird flu, Trump fired the people in charge of bird flu.

 

[struth]

Let me draw an analogy for you.

A woman is being brutally raped, and your plan is instead of fighting back to just let the rapist finish. And afterwards not even hold him accountable or prosecute him for the assault.

um...no, the dems seem to want to let this keep happening...I believe in what Trump is trying to do, and get it to stop. So we can get to the afterwards part, where we can find a way to find them accountable or prosecute them.

We need to get to the point where it can at least stop. Why are you all opposed to a ceasefire?

 

[postman]

You don't hold the orange bag O' shit accountable for anything. No one's hearing your bullshit.

Trump has gone around firing everybody from the people in charge of our nuclear weapons, to the people in charge of monitoring the weather, to the people processing our tax returns.

And the MAGA's are fine with it, until they are one of the people fired, and then they cry like little children, when that was what they voted for.

 

[struth]

Trump has gone around firing everybody from the people in charge of our nuclear weapons, to the people in charge of monitoring the weather, to the people processing our tax returns.

And the MAGA's are fine with it, until they are one of the people fired, and then they cry like little children, when that was what they voted for.

which is the right of the President, to have his staff running his admin.

 

[postman]

um...no, the dems seem to want to let this keep happening...I believe in what Trump is trying to do, and get it to stop. So we can get to the afterwards part, where we can find a way to find them accountable or prosecute them.

We need to get to the point where it can at least stop. Why are you all opposed to a ceasefire?

Trump twice promised he would end the war in Ukraine before he became president, and within 24 hours once he was president.

Trump said he would end the killing 940 hours ago.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

which is the right of the President, to have his staff running his admin.

Your *pResident is garbage.

 

[j-mac]

What happened was that Trump melted down and Zelensky corrected him as would a school master.

I am going to remind you of what one of our founding fathers said in his farewell address in 1789, and warned us against...It fits your incredibly stupid view perfectly....Here it is....

"Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.”

—We must have clear heads: you can’t think clearly if you aren’t objective. You can’t just hate a certain nation and love another, overlooking evidence to the contrary, because this leads to bad foreign policy and leads Americans themselves to sell out their country’s interest to promote the interests of their favorites."

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Now, get your head out of your ass and start showing some substance beyond trolling and insults....

 

[postman]

We need to get to the point where it can at least stop. Why are you all opposed to a ceasefire?

The problem with a cease fire is that Putin has never honored the agreements behind them.

Ukrainian defence minister Stepan Poltorak said on 8 June 2015 that over 100 soldiers and at least 50 civilians had been killed since Minsk II came into effect. According to him, pro-Russian forces had violated the truce more than 4,000 times.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Just garbage.

This describes Trump.

 

[postman]

which is the right of the President, to have his staff running his admin.

Musk is making the firing decisions, and Trump is carrying them out.
Which is backwards in the President/Staff relationship.

 

[struth]

Trump twice promised he would end the war in Ukraine before he became president, and within 24 hours once he was president.

Trump said he would end the killing 940 hours ago.

ok, so he's a little late and trying hard to do it now, why are you against it?

 

[struth]

Your *pResident is garbage.

so you got nothing

 

[postman]

I am going to remind you of what one of our founding fathers said in his farewell address in 1789, and warned us against...It fits your incredibly stupid view perfectly....Here it is....

—We must have clear heads: you can’t think clearly if you aren’t objective. You can’t just hate a certain nation and love another, overlooking evidence to the contrary, because this leads to bad foreign policy and leads Americans themselves to sell out their country’s interest to promote the interests of their favorites."

You would have been great at the start of WWII, when we should have sided against the national that we twice fought a war with.

 

[j-mac]

You would have been great at the start of WWII, when should have sided against the national that we twice fought a war with.

If you remember, at the start of WWII, the US wanted NO PART of it.

 

[postman]

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I'm sure George Washington considered the two great oceans as a barrier making foreign invasion much more difficult. And thus insulate us from the happenings in the rest of the world.

I'm sure if he could forsee ballistic missile submarines, he would have ended his address with "Nevermind !!!"

 

[whitehall]

Hardly a meltdown but get used to it. The Trump W.H. is the most open administration in history and Trump won't be disrespected by any two bit regime that wants to extort Uncle Sam.