Trump's misdemeanor charges can be bumped up to felonies...if the jury believes

[Dante]

People here at usmb and elsewhere have been arguing over and over again "what other crime?" -- yet when the other crime is mentioned they've ignored it completely. But in the courtroom the facts can't so easily be ignored. The jury is being reminded by the prosecution team over and over again, that records were doctored to further or conceal another crime - , an effort to illegally influence the 2016 election.

Alan Feuer
Reporting on Trump’s criminal trial

Just a reminder about the structure of the charges in this case: Trump has been indicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records related to reimbursing Cohen for the hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels. Those misdemeanor charges can be bumped up to felonies...

if the jury believes the records were doctored to further or conceal another crime —

in this instance, an effort to illegally influence the 2016 election.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/13/nyregion/trump-trial-michael-cohen

Frankie!!!
CrusaderFrank

"What is the Crime???" a member asked in a thread. "Can anyone give a Lucid Explanation of Bragg's alleged "another crime?"" asked yet another member. Each time the "other crime" is mentioned or listed, it either goes ignored or it is incoherently attacked.

Davide French, a NYT reporter who is not a fan of Mr. Trump, questions the validity of the prosecution's case of this other crime, showing it's possible to do so without resorting to cultist denials and obfuscation.

But what is the other crime? Here is where the case gets shaky. In court filings, the prosecution has argued that Trump was attempting to commit or conceal federal and state election law crimes, along with state tax crimes. The election law theory has real weaknesses, however. While I’ve long believed the hush-money scheme violated federal criminal law, I also recognize that the underlying legal theory has not been fully tested.

Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, pleaded guilty to federal crimes in connection with this same scheme, but a guilty plea doesn’t have the same value as a court precedent. There isn’t clear federal precedent on the matter, and no federal charges have been brought against Trump on these grounds, by the Department of Justice under either Trump or President Biden. In addition, the state election law that the prosecution cites may well be pre-empted by federal law and therefore be inapplicable to the case.

court filing:

People v. Trump - Prosecution's Opposition to Defense Motion

Court papers filed by prosecutors in November 2023 opposing a motion by Donald Trump's lawyers that seeks to dismiss the former president's New York hush-money criminal case. Judge Juan Manuel Merchan is expected to rule at a hearing on Feb. 15, 2024.

www.documentcloud.org

His opinion is no more correct than the prosecution's. The prosecution is well aware of the issues surrounding the charges.


Donald von Shitzinpants is one smelly dude.

 

[Mac-7]

People here at usmb and elsewhere have been arguing over and over again "what other crime?" -- yet when the other crime is mentioned they've ignored it completely. But in the courtroom the facts can't so easily be ignored. The jury is being reminded by the prosecution team over and over again, that records were doctored to further or conceal another crime - , an effort to illegally influence the 2016 election.

Alan Feuer
Reporting on Trump’s criminal trial

Just a reminder about the structure of the charges in this case: Trump has been indicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records related to reimbursing Cohen for the hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels. Those misdemeanor charges can be bumped up to felonies...

if the jury believes the records were doctored to further or conceal another crime —

in this instance, an effort to illegally influence the 2016 election.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/13/nyregion/trump-trial-michael-cohen

Frankie!!!
CrusaderFrank

In the uber lib banana republic of New York trump is guilty till proven innocent

 

[Dante]

In the uber lib banana republic of New York trump is guilty till proven innocent

Okay, trollboi


Donald von Shitzinpants is one smelly dude.

 

[Dante]

"What is the Crime???" a member asked in a thread. "Can anyone give a Lucid Explanation of Bragg's alleged "another crime?"" asked yet another member. Each time the "other crime" is mentioned or listed, it either goes ignored or it is incoherently attacked.

Davide French, a NYT reporter who is not a fan of Mr. Trump, questions the validity of the prosecution's case of this other crime, showing it's possible to do so without resorting to cultist denials and obfuscation.



court filing:

People v. Trump - Prosecution's Opposition to Defense Motion

Court papers filed by prosecutors in November 2023 opposing a motion by Donald Trump's lawyers that seeks to dismiss the former president's New York hush-money criminal case. Judge Juan Manuel Merchan is expected to rule at a hearing on Feb. 15, 2024.

www.documentcloud.org

His opinion is no more correct than the prosecution's. The prosecution is well aware of the issues surrounding the charges.


Donald von Shitzinpants is one smelly dude.

bump

because people like eagle1462010 keep raising the issue in other threads.

Beating dead horses and spamming.

 

[eagle1462010]

bump

because people like eagle1462010 keep raising the issue in other threads.

Beating dead horses and spamming.

Cool spell out the charges

 

[MagicMike]

If the crime is to illegally influence an election, it was brought in the wrong court. That's a federal crime and cannot be tried in state court.

WRONG!
It is a crime in New York as well.

Any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-152

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[MagicMike]

Cool spell out the charges

34 counts of falsification of records in order to conceal another crime.
And that crime is election interference which, contrary to what the fake news conservative media is telling you, is more than just a federal crime that only the feds can prosecute.
It is a state crime in NY as well.

Section 17-152 - Conspiracy to promote or prevent election, N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-152 | Casetext Search + Citator

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[EvilCat Breath]

WRONG!
It is a crime in New York as well.

Any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-152

Section 17-152 - Conspiracy to promote or prevent election, N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-152 | Casetext Search + Citator

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Trump never did anything to promote or prevent an election. He had an opinion that the election was rigged. I have the same opinion. New York cannot exactly reach across the country and arrest me. The question should be asked. Do we want to be the kind of country that prosecutes people for having an opinion the government doesn't like? Obviously, Democrats think so.