Trump's Alternate-Reality Government

[SweetTea]

How sad. All you can do is copy and paste propaganda.

Amidst all sorts of logical fallacies, your link says the prices have gone up this year.

But Trump says prices are down.

Because Trump lives in an alternate reality.

Inflation is still occurring as it always does. The point is that prices are not rising as fast as they did 2021-2024, despite tariffs. Imagine that.

 

[Marener]

Of course it rises, but it is rising less this year than it did 2021-2024.

Well, that’s not what you said earlier. And a rising CPI means prices are going UP and not DOWN.

But we all know that the rate of inflation had come down BEFORE Trump took office.

You can admit that, right?

 

[Marener]

Inflation is still occurring as it always does. The point is that prices are not rising as fast as they did 2021-2024, despite tariffs. Imagine that.

You don’t recall Trump campaigning on a promise to LOWER prices?

 

[Hafar1014]

How sad. All you can do is copy and paste propaganda.

Amidst all sorts of logical fallacies, your link says the prices have gone up this year.

But Trump says prices are down.

Because Trump lives in an alternate reality.

Everything is better under Trump
Many prices have gone down and Bidens inflated prices are still in effect. Did gas go up? Inflation is slowing wages are up

President Trump tamed Biden’s inflation crisis.​

• Under Biden, inflation averaged nearly 5% — hitting 9.1% during the worst inflation crisis in decades, fueled by Radical Left spending.
• In President Trump’s second term, inflation has dropped to an average of just 2.7% — the critical first step in reversing Democrats’ cost-of-living disaster. In fact, under President Trump, Americans have even seen the first overall price decline since 2020.

Americans have made real wage gains, but there’s still work to do.​

• Under Biden, workers lost over $2,900 in purchasing power — meaning inflation rose faster than wages.
• In President Trump’s second term, even after accounting for higher prices, Americans’ real wages have grown by nearly $700 and are on track to increase by nearly $1,200 after his first full year in office.

Gas prices are falling.​

• Under Biden, the average gas price was the highest it has ever been during a presidential term, reaching its highest-ever price — even after he drained our strategic reserves to artificially decrease prices.
• In President Trump’s second term, Americans have seen the lowest average gas price in more than four years and are on track to spend the lowest amount of their disposable income on gas in the last two decades. As President Trump’s energy dominance vision continues to come to fruition, energy prices will fall further — igniting other price declines.

Grocery prices and housing prices are trending in the right direction.​

• Prices for everyday staples are starting to see declines. Under President Trump, prices for eggs, butter, ice cream, fresh fruit, cereal, fish, seafood, rice, pasta, and ham have all seen declines — and more help is on the way.
• Housing costs are moderating. Under Biden, mortgage rates hit their highest in decades; in President Trump’s second term, the average 30-year fixed mortgage rate was 6.17% at the end of October — 12% lower than when he took office. According to the Consumer Price Index, the 12-month change in overall shelter costs is at its lowest level in four years.

Other efforts will continue driving prices down, ramping up take-home pay, and strengthening our economy.​

• President Trump’s deregulatory efforts are saving Americans a collective $180 billion — or $2,100 per family of four. For example, President Trump halted burdensome Biden-era efficiency standards that jacked up the price of everyday appliances.
• President Trump signed into law the largest tax cuts in American history. This includes No Tax on Tips, No Tax on Overtime, and No Tax on Social Security — all of which will save Americans money in their tax returns; the landmark legislation will raise Americans’ take-home pay by as much as $13,300 and wages by as much as $11,600.
• President Trump is bringing jobs and investment back to the U.S. Since President Trump took office, companies have invested trillions of dollars into their U.S.-based operations — onshoring and creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs for Americans.
• President Trump is reducing the deficit. A combination of spending cuts, interest savings, economic growth, and tariff revenues are expected to reduce the deficit by trillions of dollars — resulting in higher take-home pay, lower interest rates, and a stronger economy.
• 1.9 million more American-born workers are employed today than when President Trump took office. Right now, the U.S. has more people working now than at any time in the history of our country.

The Trump Administration will not rest until the high prices that resulted from Democrat policies are fully reined in. We’re making progress — and the best is yet to come.

 

[Hafar1014]

That’s a lie. CPI continues to rise.

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Thank Biden for that its his inflation. Under Trump its slowing down

 

[Marener]

Everything is better under Trump
Many prices have gone down and Bidens inflated prices are still in effect. Did gas go up? Inflation is slowing wages are up

President Trump tamed Biden’s inflation crisis.​

• Under Biden, inflation averaged nearly 5% — hitting 9.1% during the worst inflation crisis in decades, fueled by Radical Left spending.
• In President Trump’s second term, inflation has dropped to an average of just 2.7% — the critical first step in reversing Democrats’ cost-of-living disaster. In fact, under President Trump, Americans have even seen the first overall price decline since 2020.

Americans have made real wage gains, but there’s still work to do.​

• Under Biden, workers lost over $2,900 in purchasing power — meaning inflation rose faster than wages.
• In President Trump’s second term, even after accounting for higher prices, Americans’ real wages have grown by nearly $700 and are on track to increase by nearly $1,200 after his first full year in office.

Gas prices are falling.​

• Under Biden, the average gas price was the highest it has ever been during a presidential term, reaching its highest-ever price — even after he drained our strategic reserves to artificially decrease prices.
• In President Trump’s second term, Americans have seen the lowest average gas price in more than four years and are on track to spend the lowest amount of their disposable income on gas in the last two decades. As President Trump’s energy dominance vision continues to come to fruition, energy prices will fall further — igniting other price declines.

Grocery prices and housing prices are trending in the right direction.​

• Prices for everyday staples are starting to see declines. Under President Trump, prices for eggs, butter, ice cream, fresh fruit, cereal, fish, seafood, rice, pasta, and ham have all seen declines — and more help is on the way.
• Housing costs are moderating. Under Biden, mortgage rates hit their highest in decades; in President Trump’s second term, the average 30-year fixed mortgage rate was 6.17% at the end of October — 12% lower than when he took office. According to the Consumer Price Index, the 12-month change in overall shelter costs is at its lowest level in four years.

Other efforts will continue driving prices down, ramping up take-home pay, and strengthening our economy.​

• President Trump’s deregulatory efforts are saving Americans a collective $180 billion — or $2,100 per family of four. For example, President Trump halted burdensome Biden-era efficiency standards that jacked up the price of everyday appliances.
• President Trump signed into law the largest tax cuts in American history. This includes No Tax on Tips, No Tax on Overtime, and No Tax on Social Security — all of which will save Americans money in their tax returns; the landmark legislation will raise Americans’ take-home pay by as much as $13,300 and wages by as much as $11,600.
• President Trump is bringing jobs and investment back to the U.S. Since President Trump took office, companies have invested trillions of dollars into their U.S.-based operations — onshoring and creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs for Americans.
• President Trump is reducing the deficit. A combination of spending cuts, interest savings, economic growth, and tariff revenues are expected to reduce the deficit by trillions of dollars — resulting in higher take-home pay, lower interest rates, and a stronger economy.
• 1.9 million more American-born workers are employed today than when President Trump took office. Right now, the U.S. has more people working now than at any time in the history of our country.

The Trump Administration will not rest until the high prices that resulted from Democrat policies are fully reined in. We’re making progress — and the best is yet to come.

The gas price in November 2025 is basically exactly the same as gas price in November 2024.

U.S. All Grades All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon)

Did you know that?

 

[Marener]

Thank Biden for that its his inflation. Under Trump its slowing down

What was the rate of inflation for 2024 and what is it for 2025?

Do you know?

 

[Hafar1014]

The gas price in November 2025 is basically exactly the same as gas price in November 2024.

U.S. All Grades All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon)

Did you know that?

So what it was 6.00 a gallon under Biden. Shove that in your tank

 

[SweetTea]

Well, that’s not what you said earlier. And a rising CPI means prices are going UP and not DOWN.

But we all know that the rate of inflation had come down BEFORE Trump took office.

You can admit that, right?

I should have said the rise in the CPI was less, which it is.

Yes, inflation is roughly the same as it was when Biden left office.

Remember, if inflation stayed the same but we are collecting tariff revenue, that is a win.

 

[Hafar1014]

What was the rate of inflation for 2024 and what is it for 2025?

Do you know?

It doesnt matter because inflated prices take time to come down. Biden drove it up to 9.1% and we are still feeling the pain from his stupidity. He had 4 years to wreck the economy Trump has only had 11 months and already its getting better. Tax cuts and wage increases will increase spending power

President Trump tamed Biden’s inflation crisis.​

• Under Biden, inflation averaged nearly 5% — hitting 9.1% during the worst inflation crisis in decades, fueled by Radical Left spending.
• In President Trump’s second term, inflation has dropped to an average of just 2.7% — the critical first step in reversing Democrats’ cost-of-living disaster. In fact, under President Trump, Americans have even seen the first overall price decline since 2020.

Americans have made real wage gains, but there’s still work to do.​

• Under Biden, workers lost over $2,900 in purchasing power — meaning inflation rose faster than wages.
• In President Trump’s second term, even after accounting for higher prices, Americans’ real wages have grown by nearly $700 and are on track to increase by nearly $1,200 after his first full year in office.

Gas prices are falling.​

• Under Biden, the average gas price was the highest it has ever been during a presidential term, reaching its highest-ever price — even after he drained our strategic reserves to artificially decrease prices.
• In President Trump’s second term, Americans have seen the lowest average gas price in more than four years and are on track to spend the lowest amount of their disposable income on gas in the last two decades. As President Trump’s energy dominance vision continues to come to fruition, energy prices will fall further — igniting other price declines.

Grocery prices and housing prices are trending in the right direction.​

• Prices for everyday staples are starting to see declines. Under President Trump, prices for eggs, butter, ice cream, fresh fruit, cereal, fish, seafood, rice, pasta, and ham have all seen declines — and more help is on the way.
• Housing costs are moderating. Under Biden, mortgage rates hit their highest in decades; in President Trump’s second term, the average 30-year fixed mortgage rate was 6.17% at the end of October — 12% lower than when he took office. According to the Consumer Price Index, the 12-month change in overall shelter costs is at its lowest level in four years.

Other efforts will continue driving prices down, ramping up take-home pay, and strengthening our economy.​

• President Trump’s deregulatory efforts are saving Americans a collective $180 billion — or $2,100 per family of four. For example, President Trump halted burdensome Biden-era efficiency standards that jacked up the price of everyday appliances.
• President Trump signed into law the largest tax cuts in American history. This includes No Tax on Tips, No Tax on Overtime, and No Tax on Social Security — all of which will save Americans money in their tax returns; the landmark legislation will raise Americans’ take-home pay by as much as $13,300 and wages by as much as $11,600.
• President Trump is bringing jobs and investment back to the U.S. Since President Trump took office, companies have invested trillions of dollars into their U.S.-based operations — onshoring and creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs for Americans.
• President Trump is reducing the deficit. A combination of spending cuts, interest savings, economic growth, and tariff revenues are expected to reduce the deficit by trillions of dollars — resulting in higher take-home pay, lower interest rates, and a stronger economy.
• 1.9 million more American-born workers are employed today than when President Trump took office. Right now, the U.S. has more people working now than at any time in the history of our country.

The Trump Administration will not rest until the high prices that resulted from Democrat policies are fully reined in. We’re making progress — and the best is yet to come.

 

[22lcidw]

What was the rate of inflation for 2024 and what is it for 2025?

Do you know?

I know. It is first day of the new administration with promises and we get disappointed. Imagine the people who have had friends and relatives who died because Joe said he had the cure for cancer. Day One.

 

[Marener]

So what it was 6.00 a gallon under Biden. Shove that in your tank

The data shows it topped out at $5 a gallon.

But then it came down while Biden was still in office.

So Trump didn’t actually do anything.

 

[Marener]

It doesnt matter because inflated prices take time to come down. Biden drove it up to 9.1% and we are still feeling the pain from his stupidity. He had 4 years to wreck the economy Trump has only had 11 months and already its getting better. Tax cuts and wage increases will increase spending power

President Trump tamed Biden’s inflation crisis.​

• Under Biden, inflation averaged nearly 5% — hitting 9.1% during the worst inflation crisis in decades, fueled by Radical Left spending.
• In President Trump’s second term, inflation has dropped to an average of just 2.7% — the critical first step in reversing Democrats’ cost-of-living disaster. In fact, under President Trump, Americans have even seen the first overall price decline since 2020.

Americans have made real wage gains, but there’s still work to do.​

• Under Biden, workers lost over $2,900 in purchasing power — meaning inflation rose faster than wages.
• In President Trump’s second term, even after accounting for higher prices, Americans’ real wages have grown by nearly $700 and are on track to increase by nearly $1,200 after his first full year in office.

Gas prices are falling.​

• Under Biden, the average gas price was the highest it has ever been during a presidential term, reaching its highest-ever price — even after he drained our strategic reserves to artificially decrease prices.
• In President Trump’s second term, Americans have seen the lowest average gas price in more than four years and are on track to spend the lowest amount of their disposable income on gas in the last two decades. As President Trump’s energy dominance vision continues to come to fruition, energy prices will fall further — igniting other price declines.

Grocery prices and housing prices are trending in the right direction.​

• Prices for everyday staples are starting to see declines. Under President Trump, prices for eggs, butter, ice cream, fresh fruit, cereal, fish, seafood, rice, pasta, and ham have all seen declines — and more help is on the way.
• Housing costs are moderating. Under Biden, mortgage rates hit their highest in decades; in President Trump’s second term, the average 30-year fixed mortgage rate was 6.17% at the end of October — 12% lower than when he took office. According to the Consumer Price Index, the 12-month change in overall shelter costs is at its lowest level in four years.

Other efforts will continue driving prices down, ramping up take-home pay, and strengthening our economy.​

• President Trump’s deregulatory efforts are saving Americans a collective $180 billion — or $2,100 per family of four. For example, President Trump halted burdensome Biden-era efficiency standards that jacked up the price of everyday appliances.
• President Trump signed into law the largest tax cuts in American history. This includes No Tax on Tips, No Tax on Overtime, and No Tax on Social Security — all of which will save Americans money in their tax returns; the landmark legislation will raise Americans’ take-home pay by as much as $13,300 and wages by as much as $11,600.
• President Trump is bringing jobs and investment back to the U.S. Since President Trump took office, companies have invested trillions of dollars into their U.S.-based operations — onshoring and creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs for Americans.
• President Trump is reducing the deficit. A combination of spending cuts, interest savings, economic growth, and tariff revenues are expected to reduce the deficit by trillions of dollars — resulting in higher take-home pay, lower interest rates, and a stronger economy.
• 1.9 million more American-born workers are employed today than when President Trump took office. Right now, the U.S. has more people working now than at any time in the history of our country.

The Trump Administration will not rest until the high prices that resulted from Democrat policies are fully reined in. We’re making progress — and the best is yet to come.

Of course it matters. You’re just too dishonest to talk about it.

 

[22lcidw]

Of course it matters. You’re just too dishonest to talk about it.

Cancer cure from Joe. Covid cures from Joe and everything is beautiful.

 

[Hafar1014]

The data shows it topped out at $5 a gallon.

But then it came down while Biden was still in office.

So Trump didn’t actually do anything.

7.00 in CA Trump has started to reverse the Biden disaster and its already better. Next year will be even better when tax cuts kick in and wages are up increasing middle class spending power. Biden crushed the middle class. Trumps success forces democrats to face the failure of their beliefs. Keep making excuses for failed Biden administration. He was so bad his own party fired him

 

[Marener]

I should have said the rise in the CPI was less, which it is.

Yes, inflation is roughly the same as it was when Biden left office.

Remember, if inflation stayed the same but we are collecting tariff revenue, that is a win.

The point here is that MAGA lives in an alternate reality.

Trump campaigned on lowering prices and fixing inflation.

He hasn’t done any of that but we have Trump and the rest of MAGA trying to claim that he’s done an amazing job despite having done basically nothing.

 

[Marener]

7.00 in CA Trump has started to reverse the Biden disaster and its already better. Next year will be even better when tax cuts kick in and wages are up increasing middle class spending power. Biden crushed the middle class. Trumps success forces democrats to face the failure of their beliefs. Keep making excuses for failed Biden administration. He was so bad his own party fired him

What success? As we’ve seen gas prices haven’t changed at all.

Every time someone points out your false claims, you move the goalposts and now claim it’ll be coming in the future.

 

[Hafar1014]

Pathological denial

 

[TimFitz]

This is the pathological denial I talked about in my thread. There are some interesting aspects to this post. It gives no examples and repeats itself over and over. This is called overinclusive. Its pure emotion with no intellectual content. Its not organized logically. It could have been written in one sentence

You are a heavy practitioner of pathological denial!

indeed, your post reeks of it.

You claim it gives no examples. That is flatly false. It presents three specific one from recent events.

The claim is not simply repeated, as is the standard practice on Trump media. A whole list of specific recent examples make the point ( again counter to your misrepresentation).

And, of course, you envoke the now common right wing false assertion that this is pure emotion with no intellectual content.

Of course, it was loaded with content. it discussed specific Trump and trump regime lies and false tropes.

And you made up a counter claim out of whole cloth.

 

[TimFitz]

Yes and here have another example of pathological denial in a statement that not only is false but cant be proven.

None the less, your beloved fuhrer lies almost as often as he opens his mouth,

It can’t be proven that zTrump lies more than any person on earth.

But proving that he is a pathological liar is easy.