Trump will bring down the Republican party

[Never3ndr]

I think Trump has 0% chance of winning the general.
But a three party system may come out of the mess he is creating for Republicans.
That would be a good thing.

So let me guess, you are one of the "Anyone but Trump" mentality.
So if Trump is the GOP Candidate then you are voting for the Hildabeast.

You are correct; anybody but Trump.
He does not represent USA values

He represents American values more than any other person in the race.
Trump is the only candidate that will put America first and foremost.

You do realize that this guy has made his living off of putting himself first and foremost right? Why would he suddenly change his ways now?

I find it quite humorous when Trump supporters state that he isn't bought by business when Trump IS BIG BUSINESS. Look at the last guy that came from big business even near the presidential seat...Cheney...there is no doubting that guy helped himself and there is little doubt Trump would do the same.

really, how did Billy Clinton accumulate 80 million dollars? selling cigars
How does a lowly Senator in Congress accumulate 45million dollars. just by being married to hound dog who was a President.?

I'm not defending Clinton nor did I bring him up. It shows that you have no ground to stand on though when, instead of trying to defend your candidate, you ignore what I said and try to attack some random person out of the blue (for the record, the Clintons are crooks...but there can be more than one crook in the world).

 

[ElmerMudd]

"The Donald" will bring down the Republican party.
If he is nominated, the majority of main stream, intellectual Republicans will not support him and the party will be split forever.
If Trump is not nominated as the Republican Presidential Nominee he will run as an independent and split the party.

The question is how will the Republican Party rebuild its self after the Trump disaster is over.

If Donald wins the general election and does as poorly as most (rational) people assume he will do...then we will be looking at our first, serious three-party election in 2020 in over a century.

I think Trump has 0% chance of winning the general.
But a three party system may come out of the mess he is creating for Republicans.
That would be a good thing.

So let me guess, you are one of the "Anyone but Trump" mentality.
So if Trump is the GOP Candidate then you are voting for the Hildabeast.

You are correct; anybody but Trump.
He does not represent USA values

He represents American values more than any other person in the race.
Trump is the only candidate that will put America first and foremost.

An America of the white man, for the white man and by the white man.
Our founding Fathers came from countries that did not allow diversity. Many were members of a minority that were persecuted in the countries they came from.
We were founded as a country that would allow differences and welcome immigrants,
That is not Donald Trump.

 

[bripat9643]

I find it quite humorous when Trump supporters state that he isn't bought by business when Trump IS BIG BUSINESS. Look at the last guy that came from big business even near the presidential seat...Cheney...there is no doubting that guy helped himself and there is little doubt Trump would do the same.

The point is he isn't for sale as all the other professional politicians in the race are.

The only reason he isn't for sale is because he's already sold...

To whom?

That's how everyone makes a living, douche bag, including you.

False. Not everybody makes their living by putting themselves before everybody else. However, it is quite telling that you are buy into that world view so much that you believe all people subscribe to it. #selfcentermuch?

Yes, that is how everyone makes a living. When they are handing out the raises, do you say "oh no, don't give me one. Phil over there is more deserving."

Of course you don't. Everyone reading this thread knows you're a lying douche bag for claiming you would.

 

[bripat9643]

If Donald wins the general election and does as poorly as most (rational) people assume he will do...then we will be looking at our first, serious three-party election in 2020 in over a century.

I think Trump has 0% chance of winning the general.
But a three party system may come out of the mess he is creating for Republicans.
That would be a good thing.

So let me guess, you are one of the "Anyone but Trump" mentality.
So if Trump is the GOP Candidate then you are voting for the Hildabeast.

You are correct; anybody but Trump.
He does not represent USA values

He represents American values more than any other person in the race.
Trump is the only candidate that will put America first and foremost.

An America of the white man, for the white man and by the white man.
Our founding Fathers came from countries that did not allow diversity. Many were members of a minority that were persecuted in the countries they came from.
We were founded as a country that would allow differences and welcome immigrants,
That is not Donald Trump.

It doesn't matter what happened 400 years ago. We have nothing to gain by admitting low priced labor from third world countries. That's the bottom line. The idea that we should screw ourselves for the sake of tradition is too idiotic for words to describe.

 

[Never3ndr]

I find it quite humorous when Trump supporters state that he isn't bought by business when Trump IS BIG BUSINESS. Look at the last guy that came from big business even near the presidential seat...Cheney...there is no doubting that guy helped himself and there is little doubt Trump would do the same.

The point is he isn't for sale as all the other professional politicians in the race are.

The only reason he isn't for sale is because he's already sold...

To whom?

I stated it before...he's sold out to himself.

Yes, that is how everyone makes a living. When they are handing out the raises, do you say "oh no, don't give me one. Phil over there is more deserving."

Of course you don't. Everyone reading this thread knows you're a lying douche bag for claiming you would.

Again, false. If that was true we wouldn't have jobs that don't pay well whose aim is to benefit the public. Things like nurses, teachers, social workers, etc. Do you really think that the individuals that choose those professions did so because they were putting themselves before everybody else? The fact that you are entrenching yourself into defending your inane world view is pretty telling. At least now we know the reason you are an ardent anarchist...you have no real clue how people operate. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't people who ARE only out for themselves. I pointed towards Trump as a prime example of that, and you have pretty clearly made yourself also known as that type of person. However, just because some people are like that does not mean all people are like that.

As an aside, I also tend to be an asshole who looks out for himself first...I never claimed I wasn't one.

 

[bripat9643]

I find it quite humorous when Trump supporters state that he isn't bought by business when Trump IS BIG BUSINESS. Look at the last guy that came from big business even near the presidential seat...Cheney...there is no doubting that guy helped himself and there is little doubt Trump would do the same.

The point is he isn't for sale as all the other professional politicians in the race are.

The only reason he isn't for sale is because he's already sold...

To whom?

I stated it before...he's sold out to himself.

Is that like lending money to yourself as the defenders of the Social Security Trust Fund claim is possible to do?

Yes, that is how everyone makes a living. When they are handing out the raises, do you say "oh no, don't give me one. Phil over there is more deserving."

Of course you don't. Everyone reading this thread knows you're a lying douche bag for claiming you would.

Again, false. If that was true we wouldn't have jobs that don't pay well whose aim is to benefit the public. Things like nurses, teachers, social workers, etc. Do you really think that the individuals that choose those professions did so because they were putting themselves before everybody else? The fact that you are entrenching yourself into defending your inane world view is pretty telling. At least now we know the reason you are an ardent anarchist...you have no real clue how people operate. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't people who ARE only out for themselves. I pointed towards Trump as a prime example of that, and you have pretty clearly made yourself also known as that type of person. However, just because some people are like that does not mean all people are like that.

As an aside, I also tend to be an asshole who looks out for himself first...I never claimed I wasn't one.

People become teachers because they are not very good at anything, and they aren't smart enough to get into engineering school or computer science. Furthermore, teachers have benefits that are far better than any job they can get working for a corporation. I could list dozens of reasons that it is in a person's self interest to become a teacher, a social worker or a nurse.

The idea that people choose their careers solely out of a desire to serve others is to absurd for words. People understand at a fundamental level that self-interest is what motivates 95% of what people do. Only the terminally gullible believe otherwise.

 

[Wildman]

Does Hillary not give you any wood?

she could not give wood to a tree!!

 

[beagle9]

Trump will try to re-create America just like Obama tried too, but maybe it won't be as bad as Obama when Trump tries it. At least he will be pro-American doing it. That's saying something isn't it ?

 

[Rambunctious]

"The Donald" will bring down the Republican party.
If he is nominated, the majority of main stream, intellectual Republicans will not support him and the party will be split forever.
If Trump is not nominated as the Republican Presidential Nominee he will run as an independent and split the party.

The question is how will the Republican Party rebuild its self after the Trump disaster is over.

No he won't and no it won't who the hell are you Karmac?

 

[Markle]

"The Donald" will bring down the Republican party.
If he is nominated, the majority of main stream, intellectual Republicans will not support him and the party will be split forever.
If Trump is not nominated as the Republican Presidential Nominee he will run as an independent and split the party.

The question is how will the Republican Party rebuild its self after the Trump disaster is over.

Donald Trump will change the Republican Party but certainly not bring it down. He will do more damage to the Democrat Party. Donald Trump has exposed the Democrat Parties massive corruption where in spite of Socialist Sanders winning more vote, Corrupt Hillary walks away with more Super Delegates which many voters had no clue even existed. Voters, be they Republican, Independent or Democrat are fed up with the "establishment" in Washington. Donald Trump is highly qualified to be president. He's not my first choice but I could never vote for a Socialist or criminal. The office of President is an EXECUTIVE position. He is a superb executive. Try to remember that we have three branches in our government. We have the Legislative, Judicial, and EXECUTIVE. Lame Duck President Obama had none of those skills and we know what a disaster he has proven to be for America.

 

[Markle]

"The Donald" will bring down the Republican party.
If he is nominated, the majority of main stream, intellectual Republicans will not support him and the party will be split forever.
If Trump is not nominated as the Republican Presidential Nominee he will run as an independent and split the party.

The question is how will the Republican Party rebuild its self after the Trump disaster is over.

If Donald wins the general election and does as poorly as most (rational) people assume he will do...then we will be looking at our first, serious three-party election in 2020 in over a century.

I think Trump has 0% chance of winning the general.
But a three party system may come out of the mess he is creating for Republicans.
That would be a good thing.

So let me guess, you are one of the "Anyone but Trump" mentality.
So if Trump is the GOP Candidate then you are voting for the Hildabeast.

You are correct; anybody but Trump.
He does not represent USA values

Please explain for us how he does NOT represent USA values.

 

[bripat9643]

"The Donald" will bring down the Republican party.
If he is nominated, the majority of main stream, intellectual Republicans will not support him and the party will be split forever.
If Trump is not nominated as the Republican Presidential Nominee he will run as an independent and split the party.

The question is how will the Republican Party rebuild its self after the Trump disaster is over.

If Donald wins the general election and does as poorly as most (rational) people assume he will do...then we will be looking at our first, serious three-party election in 2020 in over a century.

I think Trump has 0% chance of winning the general.
But a three party system may come out of the mess he is creating for Republicans.
That would be a good thing.

So let me guess, you are one of the "Anyone but Trump" mentality.
So if Trump is the GOP Candidate then you are voting for the Hildabeast.

You are correct; anybody but Trump.
He does not represent USA values

Please explain for us how he does NOT represent USA values.

Elmer thinks sucking on the government tit is an American value.

 

[Faun]

"The Donald" will bring down the Republican party.
If he is nominated, the majority of main stream, intellectual Republicans will not support him and the party will be split forever.
If Trump is not nominated as the Republican Presidential Nominee he will run as an independent and split the party.

The question is how will the Republican Party rebuild its self after the Trump disaster is over.

Donald Trump will change the Republican Party but certainly not bring it down. He will do more damage to the Democrat Party. Donald Trump has exposed the Democrat Parties massive corruption where in spite of Socialist Sanders winning more vote, Corrupt Hillary walks away with more Super Delegates which many voters had no clue even existed. Voters, be they Republican, Independent or Democrat are fed up with the "establishment" in Washington. Donald Trump is highly qualified to be president. He's not my first choice but I could never vote for a Socialist or criminal. The office of President is an EXECUTIVE position. He is a superb executive. Try to remember that we have three branches in our government. We have the Legislative, Judicial, and EXECUTIVE. Lame Duck President Obama had none of those skills and we know what a disaster he has proven to be for America.

You realize it's the Republican party which is most likely to deny its leading candidate from becoming the nominee in this year's election, right? Maybe you should consider removing the log from your eye before whining about the Democrat party?

 

[Markle]

"The Donald" will bring down the Republican party.
If he is nominated, the majority of main stream, intellectual Republicans will not support him and the party will be split forever.
If Trump is not nominated as the Republican Presidential Nominee he will run as an independent and split the party.

The question is how will the Republican Party rebuild its self after the Trump disaster is over.

If Donald wins the general election and does as poorly as most (rational) people assume he will do...then we will be looking at our first, serious three-party election in 2020 in over a century.

I think Trump has 0% chance of winning the general.
But a three party system may come out of the mess he is creating for Republicans.
That would be a good thing.

I actually give Trump a decent shot at winning...maybe somewhere around 40%. I think that most Americans are tired with how politicians in Washington act...and he looks to be going against probably the best example of a dirty Washington politician, Hillary. Now, I'm not saying that Trump is a good candidate by any means, but I also see how some people have legitimate reasons to support him.

Hill is a dirty politician?? Corrupt too?? That's just republicans throwing more crap against the wall hoping to get something to stick Trump on his best day is a scumbag and he gives scumbags a bad name

If Donald wins the general election and does as poorly as most (rational) people assume he will do...then we will be looking at our first, serious three-party election in 2020 in over a century.

I think Trump has 0% chance of winning the general.
But a three party system may come out of the mess he is creating for Republicans.
That would be a good thing.

I actually give Trump a decent shot at winning...maybe somewhere around 40%. I think that most Americans are tired with how politicians in Washington act...and he looks to be going against probably the best example of a dirty Washington politician, Hillary. Now, I'm not saying that Trump is a good candidate by any means, but I also see how some people have legitimate reasons to support him.

Hill is a dirty politician?? Corrupt too?? That's just republicans throwing more crap against the wall hoping to get something to stick Trump on his best day is a scumbag and he gives scumbags a bad name

Either you aren't paying attention to the elections or you are just trolling. You do realize that Bernie and almost all independent media sources echo the same thing. Or are you calling Sanders a Republican or something?

Now I am not saying Trump is a good guy, but I feel it best to have an earnest picture of the candidates rather than a convoluted one.

Can we start off with 4 bankruptcy's and 3 wives and 1000's he hurt when dealing with him and his team of lawyers?

As you know, Donald Trump has never declared bankruptcy. Do believe that he WANTED those companies to go bankrupt? Yes, people were hurt. How many people were HELPED by all of his successful businesses or does that not matter? Our founding fathers considered the ability to declare bankruptcy was so important to the growth of America that it is included in out Constitution. How many cities have declared bankruptcy and did GM not declare bankruptcy as well? That was AFTER President Obama told us that the purpose of his mammoth bailout for they and Chrysler was to PREVENT them from going into bankruptcy was it not?

He's had, three wives. How does that impair his ability to run the country?

Former President Bill Clinton committed sexual assault and rape. Did that not place the country in far more danger due to Clinton exposing himself to blackmail? Hillary Clinton headed up the Bimbo Eruption Assault Team and led the payoffs to the list of Bill's conquests. Are three marriages worse than a string of women leading all the way back to his time as Gov. of Arkansaw?

 

[guno]

this was the last good chance the republicans had to win the presidency with someone like John Kasich who is a "pragmatist" and wants to discuss issues, it will be a very long time for the republicans to have a chance of wining with people like either cruz or trump in the general election

 

[bripat9643]

this was the last good chance the republicans had to win the presidency with someone like John Kasich who is a "pragmatist" and wants to discuss issues, it will be a very long time for the republicans to have a chance of wining with people like either cruz or trump in the general election

Yeah, right, because illegal immigration isn't an issue, and neither are these boondoggle trade deals we always get screwed on.

 

[BluesLegend]

The people have become uppity and the political ruling class are shitting their pants.

 

[guno]

this was the last good chance the republicans had to win the presidency with someone like John Kasich who is a "pragmatist" and wants to discuss issues, it will be a very long time for the republicans to have a chance of wining with people like either cruz or trump in the general election

Yeah, right, because illegal immigration isn't an issue, and neither are these boondoggle trade deals we always get screwed on.

you really think the republican party can win with just a bunch of uneducated angry white guys?

 

[Desperado]

this was the last good chance the republicans had to win the presidency with someone like John Kasich who is a "pragmatist" and wants to discuss issues, it will be a very long time for the republicans to have a chance of wining with people like either cruz or trump in the general election

All John Kasich will do is ask the democrats what they want done next then do it for them. If John Kasich put on a dress you could not tell him from HilIary Clinton.

 

[guno]

The people have become uppity and the political ruling class are shitting their pants.

the old bitter white christians are shitting their pants with the demographic shift , white christers now down to 46 percent of the population in 2015 down from 55 percent in 2007 and every year dropping even more, numbers for 2016 not in yet, maybe down to 42 percent now and dropping, they cannot win without some minority support , women and younger people. time and numbers not on the republicans side, let's not forget the large electoral blue states with larger populations