Trump — We’re going to look into Ashli Babbitt case.

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Show the video to prove it.

Here is the video by JaydenX for the 50th+ time.
at the 0;39 second mark babbitt goes into the window, with ZERO cops around, they had left.

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Well, I admit, I can't show you an MSM video that proves what you think didn't happen, and you're never going to accept any evidence that doesn't feed into your confirmation bias.

Subject over.

Nice try.




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[Winco]

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That's what it's all about -- you refuse to buy into their unicorns and fairy dust delusions, and since they would instantly simplode if ever they are proven wrong, you MUST be lying or stupid or delusional in order for them to survive.

This is what happens when a culture decides to NEVER grow up.


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FACTS.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

FACTS.

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Excellent example.




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[martybegan]

You opinion is noted.

But I agree, let's get the trial going. Let's get the J6 violence all over the news media lest we forget.



(A) they didn't advance through the barrier as Babbitt did.

(B) With the single controlled shot by Lt. Byrd they back off for the critical seconds for reinforcements to arrive.

WW

She wasn't advancing, she was hanging.

Again, find me where "pour encouragement les autres" is a valid reason for use of deadly force by a police officer.

 

[Winco]

She was being pushed from behind by capital cops.

Well, I admit, I can't show you an MSM video that proves what you think didn't happen, and you're never going to accept any evidence that doesn't feed into your confirmation bias.

You said She was being pushed from behind by capital cops.

No one is asking you to post what didn't happen, we are asking you to back up your claim.
Which was.....She was being pushed from behind by capital cops.

 

[WorldWatcher]

She wasn't advancing, she was hanging.

Again, find me where "pour encouragement les autres" is a valid reason for use of deadly force by a police officer.

I've made my case repeatedly. I've posted the videos multiple times and threads I know you are in.

Here I am agreeing with you - charge him if you can, let's bring it to trail. Let's get it back in the news and in the media. Let's we forget.

WW

 

[martybegan]

I've made my case repeatedly. I've posted the videos multiple times and threads I know you are in.

Here I am agreeing with you - charge him if you can, let's bring it to trail. Let's get it back in the news and in the media. Let's we forget.

WW

You have made a crap case repeatedly.

Nowhere in the rules for use of deadly force for federal officers is "to encourage others to stop what they are doing"

which is your entire case.

Which is of course, bullshit.

But keep using big words and phrases to make your room temperature IQ appear to be tepid.

 

[Lesh]

The more made up concepts you have to add, the more your argument is bullshit.

She was not a clear and present danger, and to shoot someone they have to be a lethal danger at that.

Then why not shoot the guys trying to break through the door?

They probably should have. LE showed remarkable restraint

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

They probably should have. LE showed remarkable restraint

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Just like Ashlii Babbit was afforded "due process".




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[Lesh]

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Just like Ashlii Babbit was afforded "due process".




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She got what she was asking for .

Shocking that you support the violence by MAGA assholes that day

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

She got what she was asking for .

Shocking that you support the violence by MAGA assholes that day

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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Good example of the smooth brain of left cultists.

Facts just slide right off of it.



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[Mac1958]

No one is asking you to post what didn't happen, we are asking you to back up your claim.

You're dealing with people who think that the only violent people in the Insurrection were FBI agents.

People who think the video recordings we've seen of the violence were actually a Hollywood production.

People who don't believe that the Insurrectionists injured dozen of Capitol cops.

People who think that Ashley Babbit wasn't doing anything wrong.

They're just in their own world.

 

[Auld Phart]

She got what she was asking for .

Shocking that you support the violence by MAGA assholes that day

Shocking that you support the violence by MAGA assholes that day

not as shocking as you condoning cold blooded murder.

 

[Lesh]

not as shocking as you condoning cold blooded murder.

Never did. Never will.

 

[Winco]

You're dealing with people who think that the only violent people in the Insurrection were FBI agents.

People who think the video recordings we've seen of the violence were actually a Hollywood production.

People who don't believe that the Insurrectionists injured dozen of Capitol cops.

People who think that Ashley Babbit wasn't doing anything wrong.

They're just in their own world.

I know, the crazies within the trump cult.

 

[AZrailwhale]

I wouldn't have a problem putting it before a jury.

Please do.

We can have video after video of the violence the mob was committing. We can have the radio calls that Lt. Byrd was listening to. We can show the video of the violent mob breaking through the last law enforcement barrier prior to being able to access the House Chamber.

Part of the context of the trial will be establishing the operational environment present at the time that Lt. Byrd was the sole officer in distance to react at that instant in time. How with a single controlled shot he stopped the mob for critical seconds while reinforcements arrived.

There isn't an honest jury in the country that will convict.

But I welcome the trial, although I can bet you Trump and his high level supporters DON'T what that relived day-after-day on national television and in the media.

I say bring it.

WW

We also have recordings of Byrd falsely claiming he was receiving fire from the crowd. It was as bad shoot from start to finish. The two officers in front of the door would have been in far more danger than Byrd and they didn't feel the need to use force at all. Neither did the SWAT team and detectives in the stairwell with them thirty feet away from Babbit. The only person who seems to have felt threatened was Byrd and he had to lean out of concealment to shoot Babbit.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Show the video to prove it.

Here is the video by JaydenX for the 50th+ time.
at the 0;39 second mark babbitt goes into the window, with ZERO cops around, they had left.

Did you notice the cops right behind her? They didn't feel the need to use force.

 

[WorldWatcher]

he rules for use of deadly force for federal officers is "to encourage others to stop what they are doing"

Never said it did. The language is there must be a clear and present danger of death or serious bodily injury to themselves or to others.

And that the violent mob did.

which is your entire case.

This is false.

YOU said ""to encourage others to stop what they are doing" not I.

I use the clear and present danger standard that Lt. Byrd's actions were measure against.

Which is of course, bullshit.

I agree, you strawman is bullshit.

But keep using big words and phrases to make your room temperature IQ appear to be tepid.

I use the words in the code, you know the ones the post incident investigation used and ones that would be presented to the jury.

WW

§ 5–351.01. Use of deadly force. | D.C. Law Library

code.dccouncil.gov

 

[WorldWatcher]

We also have recordings of Byrd falsely claiming he was receiving fire from the crowd. It was as bad shoot from start to finish. The two officers in front of the door would have been in far more danger than Byrd and they didn't feel the need to use force at all. Neither did the SWAT team and detectives in the stairwell with them thirty feet away from Babbit. The only person who seems to have felt threatened was Byrd and he had to lean out of concealment to shoot Babbit.

You are misstating what happened. Lt. Byrd said there were reports over the radio that shots had been fired. Which was true.

The reports were later determined to be incorrect, but at the time Lt. Byrd DIDN'T know that. He was only aware of reports in real time, not 20/20 hindsight.

WW

 

[martybegan]

Never said it did. The language is there must be a clear and present danger of death or serious bodily injury to themselves or to others.

And that the violent mob did.



This is false.

YOU said ""to encourage others to stop what they are doing" not I.

I use the clear and present danger standard that Lt. Byrd's actions were measure against.



I agree, you strawman is bullshit.


I use the words in the code, you know the ones the post incident investigation used and ones that would be presented to the jury.

WW

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§ 5–351.01. Use of deadly force. | D.C. Law Library

code.dccouncil.gov

And you interpret a woman halfway through a window as meeting 3.b 1 and 2?

Fuck off.