trump was unaware that his BBB cut Medicaid

[Seth]

Trump was unaware that the bill cut Medicaid.

There’s a real policy story here, with a couple of moving parts that sometimes get flattened in the headlines:

1. Does the “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” (BBB) actually cut Medicaid?
Yes—at least according to every independent score we have so far.

• The Congressional Budget Office projects roughly $1 trillion in federal Medicaid savings over ten years and 7-12 million fewer enrollees once all the work-requirement and block-grant provisions phase in. thetimes.co.ukthedailybeast.com
• Politico’s summary of the final House version (July 3) pegs the health-care reductions at “over $1 trillion, largely from Medicaid.” politico.com
• Even conservative estimates from the Tax Foundation and Heritage groups land in the $750-900 billion range when you combine tighter eligibility rules with slower state-match growth.

The White House factsheet insists these aren’t “cuts,” just “eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse” and removing ineligible recipients. whitehouse.gov That wording matters politically, but the CBO’s fiscal tables still show Medicaid outlays falling well below the current law baseline—so the budget math treats them as cuts.

---

2. Was President Trump genuinely unaware?
That’s harder to prove, but multiple outlets picked up the same anecdote from a July 2 closed-door meeting:

“Trump told members there are three things you don’t touch if you want to win elections—Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security.”
— NOTUS, echoed by Political Wire and The Bulwark. mediaite.comthebulwark.com

One Republican reportedly answered, “But we’re touching Medicaid in this bill.” That exchange suggests at least a gap between the talking points the president likes to use (“no cuts!”) and the legislative text his team negotiated.

Could that be simple messaging spin, or genuine unfamiliarity with a 900-page bill? Reasonable people can disagree—but the anecdote isn’t invented.

---

3. A couple of nits to clean up

• Social Security and Medicare are not cut in this bill (though automatic sequestration might shave some Medicare payments if Congress doesn’t waive PAYGO).
• The BBB isn’t solely a “health‐care cut” bill; it also extends the 2017 tax cuts and adds new ones, which is why the Medicaid savings are so large—they’re making room under Senate budget rules.

---

Bottom line: Independent scoring shows the BBB would, in fact, shrink Medicaid dramatically. Whether President Trump grasped that detail at the time of the House caucus meeting is debatable, but the reporting isn’t baseless. Hope that helps separate the fiscal numbers from the political noise!

 

[pknopp]

Is it also your contention that no illegal aliens get Medicaid assistance, stupid?

Illegals do not qualify for Medicaid.

 

[pknopp]

~~~~~~
FYI

Biden says he's expanding some migrants' health care access

President Joe Biden says his administration is expanding eligibility for Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act’s health insurance exchanges to hundreds of thousands of immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children. The action will allow those covered by the Obama-era Deferred...

apnews.com

xxxxxxxxxx​

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/12/29/1221780712/more-states-extend-health-coverage-to-immigrants-even-as-issue-inflames-gop

xxxxxxxxxx​

Map shows 14 states offering health coverage to undocumented migrants

Immigrants without legal status typically do not qualify for federal benefits, however, more than a dozen states offer health coverage to undocumented migrants.

www.newsweek.com

xxxxxxxxxx​

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/12/29/1221780712/more-states-extend-health-coverage-to-immigrants-even-as-issue-inflames-gop

A "migrant" does not equate to "illegal". Some states offer it but that has nothing to do with anything in the bill.

 

[Seth]

Illegals do not qualify for Medicaid.

This one’s more nuanced than it looks. You're right—undocumented immigrants can't get full Medicaid legally. But emergency Medicaid is allowed by federal law, and a few states also provide Medicaid-style coverage for kids or pregnant women using their own funds.

There’s also the issue of fraud or bureaucratic abuse, which can slip through the cracks but isn’t legally permitted. So yeah—illegals don’t qualify on paper, but it’s not a clean “never happens” either.

 

[pknopp]

Beginning January 1, 2024, a new law in California will allow adults ages 26 through 49 to qualify for full-scope Medi-Cal, regardless of immigration status. All other Medi-Cal eligibility rules, including income limits, will still apply.

Sheesh. Its like pulling teeth. Congress actions have no bearing over what California does.

 

[pknopp]

This one’s more nuanced than it looks. You're right—undocumented immigrants can't get full Medicaid legally. But emergency Medicaid is allowed by federal law, and a few states also provide Medicaid-style coverage for kids or pregnant women using their own funds.

There’s also the issue of fraud or bureaucratic abuse, which can slip through the cracks but isn’t legally permitted. So yeah—illegals don’t qualify on paper, but it’s not a clean “never happens” either.

What the Federal government did has no bearing over what a state might do. MAGA is so gullible.

 

[ColonelAngus]

If you lefties would sponsor illegals for citizenship, they could have LEGAL ACCESS TO ALL SOCIAL PROGRAMS AND ENTITLEMENTS.

Sponsor an illegal for citizenship!

 

[Seth]

What the Federal government did has no bearing over what a state might do. MAGA is so gullible.

Right—and that's the distinction I was trying to draw. States can choose to spend their own money on programs that look like Medicaid, but it’s not federal Medicaid. The confusion happens when people assume it’s all the same bucket. Appreciate the follow-up—always worth separating policy from political noise.

 

[Mac1958]

MSN

President Donald Trump reportedly appeared to be unaware that the Republican budget legislation, formerly his “One Big, Beautiful Bill,” cuts approximately $1 trillion from Medicaid. In a meeting at the White House on Wednesday, Trump told moderate Republicans not to cut Medicaid, Medicare, or Social Security.

“Trump still doesn’t seem to have a firm grasp about what his signature legislative achievement does,” NOTUS reports. “According to three sources with direct knowledge of the comments, the president told Republicans at this meeting that there are three things Congress shouldn’t touch if they want to win elections: Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security.”

trump was unaware that the bill cut Medicaid. During the bills develoment, he stated over and over that SS, Medicare and Medicaid would not be cut. I just thought he was lying, which of course he does on a regular basis. But maybe he just did not know what was in the bill. Or more probable, he does not have the cognitive ability to understand what was in the bill. I suggest the latter. This is our president, a man who is oblivious to critical facts....

That's the beauty of MAGA for Trump: He doesn't need to know shit.

All he has to do is insult, name-call, threaten and imprison people they don't like, and he's in. Holy crap, look at the bill he's signing -- the rubes are getting fucked over AGAIN, and he knows they're going to cheer at the signing as if their son just hit a grand slam to win the World Series.

He doesn't need to know shit, and he doesn't have to give a shit.

 

[ColonelAngus]

You guys and your TDS and MAGA being NAZIS are so pathetic.

Truly.

If you do not want ILLEGALS to be DEPORTED, then sponsor one.

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, NOT EVEN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

We have a ******* legal immigration process that millions of people have followed for hundreds of years.

What happened to NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW? Why are illegals above the law?

 

[pknopp]

You guys and your TDS and MAGA being NAZIS are so pathetic.

Truly.

If you do not want ILLEGALS to be DEPORTED, then sponsor one.

I simply want you to stop lying about them. Is that asking too much? It would appear so.

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, NOT EVEN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

We have a ******* legal immigration process that millions of people have followed for hundreds of years.

What happened to NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW? Why are illegals above the law?

Not a single person has ever argued they were. Your straw man is dismissed,

 

[ColonelAngus]

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, NOT EVEN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

Immigration and U.S. citizenship | USAGov

Learn about U.S. citizenship, Green Cards, visas, and refugee and asylum status. Find out about immigration violations and the deportation process.

www.usa.gov

Here is all you need to know about the LEGAL IMMIGRATION PROCESS.

The law should be followed.

 

[SweetSue92]

That's the beauty of MAGA for Trump: He doesn't need to know shit.

All he has to do is insult, name-call, threaten and imprison people they don't like, and he's in. Holy crap, look at the bill he's signing -- the rubes are getting fucked over AGAIN, and he knows they're going to cheer at the signing as if their son just hit a grand slam to win the World Series.

He doesn't need to know shit, and he doesn't have to give a shit.

When your TDS devolves to you chewing your own limbs off, make sure to post pictures.

 

[SweetSue92]

If true, I LOVE the requirement that able-bodied adults on Medicaid work or volunteer 80 hours/month. It is honestly disgusting and offensive to most Americans that this wasn't a requirement from the jump!

 

[j-mac]

I simply want you to stop lying about them. Is that asking too much? It would appear so.

You stop lying first.

“Medicaid is administered by states within broad federal rules and jointly funded by states and the federal government through a federal matching program with no cap.”

Medicaid Financing: The Basics | KFF

Medicaid represents $1 out of every $5 spent on health care in the U.S. and is the major source of financing for states to provide health coverage and long-term services and supports for low-income residents. This brief examines key questions about Medicaid financing and how it works.

www.kff.org

Not a single person has ever argued they were. Your straw man is dismissed,

It is the several states like CA that are acting like their above the law.

 

[Hellbilly]

Maybe ignorant lefties are intentionally ignorant about the difference between Medicaid and Medicare. Medicare is about protecting senior citizens who have paid into the program for their working lives to get help for health care. Medicaid is....what the hell is it....the ability of obese people to sit on their fat asses and collect enough to continue to kill themselves with food or meth addicts rely on the government without having to work for a living? Nobody in their right minds except TDS lefties wants that.

Medicaid pays for the medicine that keeps people like me alive. Without it, people will die.

 

[SweetSue92]

Medicaid pays for the medicine that keeps people like me alive. Without it, people will die.

You can still get it. You will just have to work or volunteer 80 hours/month or prove that you cannot.

 

[j-mac]

Medicaid pays for the medicine that keeps people like me alive. Without it, people will die.

Are you here illegally?

 

[pknopp]

You stop lying first.

“Medicaid is administered by states within broad federal rules and jointly funded by states and the federal government through a federal matching program with no cap.”

Medicaid Financing: The Basics | KFF

Medicaid represents $1 out of every $5 spent on health care in the U.S. and is the major source of financing for states to provide health coverage and long-term services and supports for low-income residents. This brief examines key questions about Medicaid financing and how it works.

www.kff.org

It is the several states like CA that are acting like their above the law.

any funds used by the states is funded by the states. Nothing in the bill just passed addresses that because it really can't.

 

[j-mac]

any funds used by the states is funded by the states. Nothing in the bill just passed addresses that because it really can't.

So, you’re really going to just ignore the fact, and keep lying. Got it.