Trump wants Greenland's Lithium deposits. The deal maker is always thinking.

[Mac-7]

Not if it's processed in Greenland.

If they are willing to that might silence the wacko greenies

 

[White 6]

He should be OK as long as he stays away from Wolf359.

It is not in the same direction and has no known planets in orbit, so no mining interests there. He won't even pass it on the way out.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Bill O'Reilly on News Nation today stated that Trump's real interest in Greenland is their Lithium deposits which could go a long way in breaking China's monopoly on the vital metal. That makes a lot of sense and Trump will make it very attractive for the Danes as well as the Greenlanders.

How about just be friendly with Denmark, instead of being a total cock and bullying your allies? Denmark gets Lithium, the US gets lithium, unless Trump fucks it all up.

 

[egp320i]

I could be wrong but greenland is mostly hard rock, rock is expensive to blast/clean up to try and get lithium

they should be working on another type of battery, maybe graphine I have read or some hybrid battery

 

[EMH]

THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE for Greenland is...

its tectonic direction. Greenland moves NW with the fault at the center bottom of the Atlantic, but is also pushed SW by the expanding Arctic Ocean. My understanding is that Greenland's movement is essentially a "wobble" now, that it moves NW when Atlantic expands (which is pretty consistent every year), but the Arctic Expansion is not as "regular."

Why does this matter?

It matters because Greenland is currently in ICE AGE and will stay IN ICE AGE until it moves beyond 600 miles from North Pole.

Greenland is worth A LOT MORE if we could "know" it is moving AWAY from North Pole rather than if it is still moving closer to it.


Detailed explanation here... just the OP...

Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

What is an ICE AGE? Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[Thunk]

It is not in the same direction and has no known planets in orbit, so no mining interests there.

Lots & lots of "parts" floating around in space...gotta have some value there

 

[Stryder50]

​

........... It's more than just the lithium ...

Why Greenland is really about China​

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President Trump raised eyebrows and set off a few alarms when he recently expressed interest in purchasing Greenland. But the real story underlying this interest is that China has long understood the relationship between commercial infrastructure projects and global power, and it has weaponized many of its commercial relationships. Washington has yet to develop a strategy to counter Beijing. President Trump reportedly became concerned when he learned about the extent of Chinese investments in this strategic island, which lies at a critical juncture in the North Atlantic, contains rare earth mineral deposits, and is home to a United States Air Force base that is central to American homeland defense architecture.

China has recognized the importance of Greenland since at least 2015, when its state enterprises began to invest in mining companies there. China has invested in at least four key mining operations in Greenland, adding to its dominant position in the rare earth element market. Rare earth elements have unique properties essential to high technology products. They are vital in critical defense applications like fighter jet engines, missile guidance systems, as well as satellite communications systems, not to mention mobile phone and electric car motors. While the United States could once rely on its own resources for rare earth minerals, it is now almost fully dependent on imports, mainly from China.

Chinese rare earth investments are just one example, close to American shores, of the broader Belt and Road Initiative announced in 2013. This trillion dollar effort is a sophisticated land and sea strategy designed to use physical projects such as railroads, ports, and mines to the advantage of Chinese business and military interests. These physical lodgments in turn will generate political advantages. The provision of loans, capital, equipment, and technical expertise shapes local politics and creates dependencies. The data generated from these projects adds “fuel” to Chinese artificial Intelligence objectives, since such technology requires large amounts of new data to refine its capabilities and applications such as facial recognition, which allows for greater social control.

Moreover, funding, building, and operating large infrastructure projects allows China to set standards that other international players must follow. Chinese acquisitions of commercial ports have shifted the development of global supply chains in favor of the mega ships operated by Chinese companies. Chinese infrastructure investments in Greenland and around the world are the equivalent of its technology investment strategies. For decades, China has implemented a technology transfer strategy that includes targeting American companies working on areas key to military applications like artificial intelligence and robotics. China combines this “venture investing” with an aggressive industrial espionage apparatus.

These are some examples of operating concepts central to the global commercial approach that Beijing has taken. Once implemented, these actions provide a foundation for Chinese influence and control below the level of overt military power. It is a form of 21st century strategic depth. The United States must do a much better job of integrating its capabilities to succeed in this competitive geopolitical landscape. We must develop our own strategic operating concepts and new models to counter authoritarian states that use their national resources to the advantage of their state enterprises, which then compete unfairly against Western businesses that must generate market returns for investors, and report on their activities under transparent legal and regulatory regimes.
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https://thehill.com/opinion/international/459125-why-greenland-is-really-about-china/

Above an excerpt of the article, which I would recommend reading, as a starter.

 

[Stryder50]

And it's not just Greenland ....

Panama Canal controversy may deepen strain in US-China relations​

....​

President-elect Donald Trump has set global nerves on edge with a trifecta of venturous provocations — musing about purchasing Greenland, reclaiming the Panama Canal and annexing Canada, even in jest. Delivered through a blend of social media flair and public bluster, these remarks blur the line between calculated strategy and impetuous theatrics.

With his return to the Oval Office nearing, Trump’s comments echo the unpredictability that defined his prior tenure. His statements have rattled allies and adversaries alike, forcing world leaders to parse his true intentions while bracing for potential fallout. This rhetoric reflects a broader trend of disruption at the core of Trump’s foreign policy ethos. By injecting ambiguity into U.S. positions on sovereignty and strategic assets, Trump is challenging established norms and unsettling traditional alliances.
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Similarly, Chinese foreign ministry also retorted with a blunt response: “The Panama Canal is a great creation of the Panamanian people, and China has always supported their just struggle to maintain sovereignty over Panama Canal.” China is the second-largest user of the Panama Canal after the U.S., and its investments in Panama’s ports and infrastructure have grown significantly in recent years.

China doesn’t control the Panama Canal, but the narrative grows murkier. Since 1997, CK Hutchison Holdings, a Hong Kong-based firm, has managed key ports at the canal’s Caribbean and Pacific gateways. This arrangement fuels broader concerns about China’s expanding global influence, though direct control of the canal remains firmly with Panama. This has raised concerns in Washington about Beijing’s strategic ambitions in the Western Hemisphere.

Over the years, China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) has seen significant Chinese involvement in Latin America. Panama, with its strategic location and the canal, is a key node in this initiative. Chinese companies have invested heavily in Panamanian ports, and there are fears that Beijing could leverage its economic influence to gain strategic advantages.
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https://thehill.com/opinion/5059212-trump-panama-canal-china/

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PRC/CCP - China is seeking to be the number one dominant power, military and economic, on this planet and doing anything it can to unsettle, unseat, and debilitate the USA is in it's playbook, overt and covert.

 

[braalian]

Always fair an and legal to make an offer, just as fair and legal to decline sale.

Then why did he say he’d consider using military force?

 

[White 6]

Then why did he say he’d consider using military force?

Insanity to titillate the MAGA crowd. It is under NATO protection, of which we are a signatory member. He isn't going to attack NATO.

 

[toobfreak]

So, Trump thinks this electric can and battery demand is here to stay? Gee, and I thought he wanted to kill electric go keep using petroleum fuels.

You really don't pay attention. The problem with cognitive dissonance is that reality gets filtered through what you THINK you saw and heard.
Trump has said about 10,000 times that EVs are great for certain people, places and uses but that for the market to work there needs to be /free market choices./
What Trump is against is the government forcing everyone to buy an EV and killing off ICE cars when that is not the best thing for people.
That is not how capitalism works.
EVs are fine and obviously not going to just go away and the market will continue to grow naturally, which is slowly, but without a solid source of lithium to make the batteries, the entire EV market here is in real danger, very hampered, and obviously, China is not the place we want to be stuck having to depend on for anything. There are tough times ahead dealing with China, which has been working for years trying to hem us in and take over the planet.

 

[Mister Iggy]

I think they have intel on something else thats been discovered in Greenland.

The tech we are all experiencing, seems so advanced and so cool yeah, lucky us , but its dumbed down to such a huge level and what they need next for the high tech they actually have, isn’t known to us and is most likely what Greenland has a lot of.

Wake up people. The future’s so bright, i gotta wear shades.

 

[Stryder50]

Then why did he say he’d consider using military force?

Exactly when, where and how did he say that specifically ???

 

[braalian]

Exactly when, where and how did he say that specifically ???

In a press conference when he literally said he wouldn’t rule out the use of military force

 

[buttercup]

I was just saying on another thread, all this talk about merging with other North American countries looks far too much like the North American Technate (a long standing plan of the techocrats) and also the North American Union (a long standing globalist plan) to me. Both of those plans are precursors to the NWO. In other words, no one should be cheering for this! What's surprising to me is I've only seen 3 or 4 other people here on this site who also thought the same thing when they heard about it.

Plus, the following tweet is painfully true....

 

[Stryder50]

In a press conference when he literally said he wouldn’t rule out the use of military force

Not the same thing as saying he's considering using it, or planning to assertively do so. Any use looks like it would be in response to 'obstructions' from/by PRChina.

I'd be more concerned about PRChina using their military around Panama;
...
“Merry Christmas to all, including to the wonderful soldiers of China, who are lovingly, but illegally, operating the Panama Canal (where we lost 38,000 people in its building 110 years ago),” his address on Truth Social began, adding that the United States was always expected to spend billions for repairs without getting a say in “anything.”

Republican lawmakers like Sen. Marco Rubio and former Rep. Matt Gaetz have previously expressed concern for the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) growing influence around the canal. A Hong Kong-based company Hutchison Ports PPC has been the operator of Balboa Port on the Pacific side and the Cristóbal Port at the Atlantic entrance of the canal since 1997 and is contracted to continue to do so for another 20 years. The Latin American nation also joined the CCP’s Belt and Road Initiative in 2017.
...

Trump Issues Christmas Message to Trudeau, Greenland, China, Panama

‘If Canada was to become our 51st State, their Taxes would be cut by more than 60 percent, their businesses would immediately double in size,’ Trump said.

www.theepochtimes.com

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The Panama Canal, which opened in 1914 after a decade of construction led by the United States, was gradually handed back to Panama under a 1977 treaty signed by President Jimmy Carter.

In 1999, Panama assumed full control of the canal, which has since become one of the busiest shipping routes in the world, connecting the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. On Dec. 31, Panama celebrated the 25th anniversary of the canal’s handover.

Under the separate 1977 Neutrality Treaty, Panama and the United States agreed that the waterway would remain permanently neutral, with fair access and tolls for all countries. Hence, any Chinese challenge to this pact may require the United States to employ military force.

“Look, the Panama Canal is vital to our country. It’s being operated by China. We gave the Panama Canal to Panama. We didn’t give it to China, and they’ve abused it. They’ve abused that gift,” Trump said during his Jan. 7 press conference.
....
If Trump chooses to use military force to uphold the neutrality agreement, it would not be the first instance of U.S. intervention in Panama.
Retired Lieutenant-General Keith Kellogg, who is set to serve as Trump’s special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, said he was an assault brigade commander during the invasion of Panama in 1989 during the presidency of George H. W. Bush. The purpose of the operation was to remove Panamanian leader Manuel Noriega from power.

“We actually did take the Panama Canal back in the late 80s during Operation Just Cause, and three weeks later, we gave it back to them,” Kellogg told Fox News on Jan. 8.

“I think his point about the Chinese running the canal is a good point,“ Kellogg said. Over 70 percent of the commerce that goes through the canal is American, he said, and ”it is in our vital national interest that that canal stays sovereign.”
....

Behind Trump’s Greenland Comment, Years of Concern Over Growing China, Russia Influence

Both the Trump and Biden administrations have warned about rising risks in the Arctic over the last 8 years.

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[toobfreak]

Both of those plans are precursors to the NWO.

You found us out! Yep, take on dying empty Canada and barren Greenland in the Arctic Circle and we got them now! World Power.

 

[buttercup]

Once again, based on some of the comments, we deserve to lose the US. But anyway, I'll let you all get back to your cheerleading.

 

[Stryder50]

You found us out! Yep, take on dying empty Canada and barren Greenland in the Arctic Circle and we got them now! World Power.

Next they will find out that Russia and China are also in on this NWO conspiracy, their sabre rattling and warfare and military buildups are just a charade ....