Trump to sign executive order to cut prices of medicine to match other countries

[Orangecat]

My bad, this is expected to raise the prices worldwide.

Of course it will, dummy. They’re going to have to raise overall prices because the US citizenry won’t be subsidizing the world by paying inflated prices. Think, boy, think.

 

[Robert W]

• Repeatedly undermined the judiciary, intelligence agencies, and the legitimacy of elections.
• Pressured state officials to overturn election results (e.g., Georgia 2020).
• Refused to commit to peaceful transfer of power before the 2020 election.

Obama first lashed out at Trump in an official paper claiming Trump and The Russians were a team and the media kept this lie going for over 3 years. Democrats immediately operated to impeach Trump by filing false charges against him. And you wonder why Trump called the press his enemy? They treated him as the enemy after the Obama paper came out on Jan 6, 2017, long before 2020. Trump was not wrong to ask Georgia for help. He was the president for crying out loud. Think Harris did not ask for help too? The media protected her and sleepy Joe too. Actually Joe Biden took office as scheduled and Trump had vacated the White house. Same thing happened this time. Biden bailed out and Trump was sworn in.

 

[Donald H]

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• Trump often used language that emphasized personal loyalty over institutional integrity (e.g., “I alone can fix it”).
• He regularly attacked the legitimacy of the press (“enemy of the people”), a hallmark of authoritarian regimes.
• His praise for strongmen like Putin, Erdoğan, and Kim Jong-un furthered perceptions of authoritarian sympathies.

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• Repeatedly undermined the judiciary, intelligence agencies, and the legitimacy of elections.
• Pressured state officials to overturn election results (e.g., Georgia 2020).
• Refused to commit to peaceful transfer of power before the 2020 election.

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• His rhetoric leading up to and during the January 6, 2021 Capitol riot was widely seen as encouraging an attack on democratic processes.
• Downplayed or ignored right-wing extremist violence (e.g., failure to condemn white supremacists unequivocally).

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• “America First” policies mirrored exclusionary nationalism.
• Muslim travel ban and family separation at the border reflected a punitive and racialized approach to immigration.
• Framed immigrants as criminals or invaders, which parallels fascist scapegoating of minority groups.

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• Attempted to use the Justice Department to target political enemies.
• Issued controversial pardons to allies (e.g., Roger Stone, Michael Flynn) that seemed aimed at rewarding loyalty rather than justice.
• Sought to deploy federal forces against domestic protests in ways seen as overreach (e.g., Portland 2020).

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• Repeated lies or distortions, especially regarding the 2020 election, COVID-19, and crime statistics.
• Promoted conspiracy theories and created a narrative of victimization and betrayal.
• Encouraged alternate information ecosystems (e.g., Fox News, Truth Social) where he controlled the message.

That's not going to do it for you. Even though it's mostly all true, you still haven't learned how to fight to save democracy. The opportunity is close to being gone!

And you also know that your side has always been outgunned!

 

[Winco]

Obama first lashed out at Trump in an official paper claiming Trump and The Russians were a team and the media kept this lie going for over 3 years. Democrats immediately operated to impeach Trump by filing false charges against him. And you wonder why Trump called the press his enemy? They treated him as the enemy after the Obama paper came out on Jan 6, 2017, long before 2020. Trump was not wrong to ask Georgia for help. He was the president for crying out loud. Think Harris did not ask for help too? The media protected her and sleepy Joe too. Actually Joe Biden took office as scheduled and Trump had vacated the White house. Same thing happened this time. Biden bailed out and Trump was sworn in.

Stay on Topic.

Pointing out what Obama, Harris and Biden MAY have done doesn't have any connection to what Trump DID.

 

[Robert W]

Stay on Topic.

Pointing out what Obama, Harris and Biden MAY have done doesn't have any connection to what Trump DID.

My god. Why are you such an authoritarian? All this forum is for is discussions. You are not my manager nor will you be my manager.

 

[Captain Caveman]

It ends the long-term gift to foreign nations who have not paid their fair share of R&D costs which have been borne by Americans.

You were write the first time and now Trump has signed it.

All that has happened, the companies in the countries that have been R&D for decades were just simply bought by American companies. Then Americans feel those companies should have been paying their own R&D costs. And that is fact.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This should also lead to lower health insurance costs and attract greater competition in the insurance space.

...and that's a bad thing because Orange Man Bad

 

[Robert W]

That's not going to do it for you. Even though it's mostly all true, you still haven't learned how to fight to save democracy. The opportunity is close to being gone!

And you also know that your side has always been outgunned!

Winco is strange. Let me explain him. He informed me he is not political. Do you believe him. What he said is he hammers Republicans and also democrats. You watch him. Did he hammer Democrats?

 

[luiza]

I seriously doubt it will though. He wouldn't do that to his pharma bros.

Hell, they're probably blowing up his phone right now.

You are way out of your depth DeCrappy .
This is big league .
Not cheerleading your local Netball Team .

 

[Donald H]

All that has happened, the companies in the countries that have been R&D for decades were just simply bought by American companies. Then Americans feel those companies should have been paying their own R&D costs. And that is fact.

It's like how Canada gets pharma drugs cheaper. Americans don't like it but that's too fukkin bad.

Why is it that can't be changed? Any good ideas?

You can ask if it's done politely.

 

[Donald H]

Winco is strange. Let me explain him. He informed me he is not political. Do you believe him. What he said is he hammers Republicans and also democrats. You watch him. Did he hammer Democrats?

N.A. this time.
But it doesn't have to be every time.

 

[Rawley]

Now if this actually happens I am 100% behind it.

I seriously doubt it will though. He wouldn't do that to his pharma bros.

Hell, they're probably blowing up his phone right now.

Trump says he will sign order aimed at cutting drug prices to match other countries

President Trump will sign an executive order that institutes a "most favored nation" policy for prescription drug pricing in a push to lower prices.

www.usatoday.com

Creepy goes full on MAGA. Cool. Congrats.

 

[Robert W]

A court f law is never going to 'get'' Trump, but a decline in popularity just might.

That was Hitler's weak suit, and ditto for other leaders like him.

Hitler was extremely popular in Germany. I have explained what he did that made him popular from 1933 until he invaded Poland. That signed his fall from popularity. At first he persuaded Germans it was a defense by Germany and blamed Poland for a fictitious attack against Germany. Poland never attacked the Nazis. Germans did not know that.
All it takes is looking at old film of Hitler's speeches. The public was thrilled with Hitler. I don't mean they were thrilled over what happened to the Jews. Some were thrilled, some were not thrilled. A very young Brother and Sister were executed at Munich in fact resisting Hitler. Both died on the Guillotine. Any country that gets bombed day and night by a force such as Americans and the English will conclude their leader messed it up for the citizens. But by that time the damage was done. Hitler was then called evil. And he certainly was evil.

America has a funny history.

Take Lincoln for an example. As President of the USA, he pulled an evil stunt. Under the guise the South shot balls at a stout fort, it was not why Lincoln invaded VA. Abe told why. His motive he stated was to collect the South and force them back into what he called the Union. However reading lately Americans are trained by Teachers to only talk about the blacks. Blacks per other recent blacks had it far better than blacks still in Africa. Slaves as they were called learned trades. It pisses off Democrats now that slaves are said to have learned trades. But that is a fact. They like to claim all slaves were whipped. This makes no sense at all. It does make sense a few were whipped. But any slave owner whipping his slaves ran the risk of killing a very valuable human being. Thousands of dollars, and that was a fortune at that time, were paid for slaves. If not thousands of dollars, hundreds of dollars. Slaves were that valuable. It took a real problem for a slave to be whipped. The whipping could kill them. Dead slaves don't work.

 

[Marener]

Man, remember when MAGA freaked out over Harris proposing price controls?

 

[SweetTea]

Man, remember when MAGA freaked out over Harris proposing price controls?

It is very nice of you to be willing to subsidize your Socialists brethren around the world, but you can do so using your own money, not ours. To make the same profits, Big Pharma will have to normalize pricing around the world instead of giving poor little Switzerland huge discounts at our expense. One would think that all Americans would be in favor of this, but I almost forgot that some of you don't really favor the US at all despite living here.

 

[Marener]

It is very nice of you to be willing to subsidize your Socialists brethren around the world, but you can do so using your own money, not ours. To make the same profits, Big Pharma will have to normalize pricing around the world instead of giving poor little Switzerland huge discounts at our expense. One would think that all Americans would be in favor of this, but I almost forgot that some of you don't really favor the US at all despite living here.

Biden-Harris Administration price-fixing scheme is stifling development of new cures - Americans for Prosperity

The Inflation Reduction Act is causing pharmaceutical companies to scale back their investments in new drug development – a situation experts warned would occur.

americansforprosperity.org

Sounds like Trump is trying to "stifle new cures". Right?

Just pointing out the hypocrisy. The actual policy isn't out, so I reserve judgement as to impact and legality.

 

[theHawk]

Here is a comparison chart matching commonly recognized fascist traits with Trump-era policies or actions:

Fascist Trait	Trump-era Example
Cult of personality	“I alone can fix it”; loyalty over institutions; mass rallies
Disdain for democratic norms	Undermining press, judiciary, and intelligence agencies
Suppression of dissent	Labeling protesters "thugs"; attacking media as "enemy of the people"
Nationalism and xenophobia	America First; Muslim ban; harsh immigration policies
Scapegoating minorities	Portraying immigrants as criminals or invaders
Disdain for rule of law	Pressuring DOJ; pardoning allies; defying subpoenas
Militarization and use of force	Deploying federal forces against protesters (e.g., Portland 2020)
Propaganda and media control	Promoting misinformation; attacking mainstream media
Election delegitimization	Claiming 2020 election was stolen; pressuring state officials
Political violence encouragement	January 6 rhetoric; refusing to condemn right-wing violence

Cult of personality? Coming from the Party of Obama being a “rock star”? That’s rich.
It’s also just your opinion, not anything to do with policy.

Can you give examples of “undermining” judiciary? How is calling out a corrupt judiciary “fascist”?

Having feelings of “distain” for government agencies, like intelligence agencies is fascist? Fascists use intelligence agencies to spy on their enemies. The fact President Trump doesn’t trust them proves he’s the opposite of a fascist.

Labeling people is now “fascist”? So every time you all call people on the right a “Nazi” basically means you’re a fascist? LOL.
There is no policy of suppression of decent. We have freedom of speech. In fact it is the left that hates freedom of speech and used the government to silence the opposition as I already pointed out.

Strict immigration policies are not fascism. It’s nationalism.

Scapegoating minorities how? By pointing out bad behavior of people? Every society that has ever existed has done this. This does not make a government “fascist”. Can you point out any government laws that “scapegoat minorities”?

Distain for Rule of Law: pardoning people is within the constitutional power of the President. Maybe you should see how many felons Biden pardoned and compare that to President Trump before calling anyone a fascist for using the pardon. That would make Biden the biggest fascist of all time.

Military use against protestors? You are conflating words. Federal agents aren’t the military. Meanwhile Biden literally used the military to wall up DC for his inauguration and banned protesting him during that time.

Propaganda: show us where the government is using propaganda by forcing media to spew their talking points. Right wing media exists independently of government.

Election delegitimization: Democrats are kings of this. 2000, 2016, 2024 election denial is the norm when they lose. But if the other side does it, suddenly it’s fascism. The only people against legitimizing elections are democrats who always vote against any legislation to rule out illegal voting.

Violent rhetoric: once again, Dems are kings of violent rhetoric. They just stormed an ICE facility to assault ICE agents. The summer of 2020 burning down buildings and shooting cops. If violent rhetoric against the opposition is “fascism” then the Dems are guilty.

 

[theHawk]

Promoted conspiracy theories and created a narrative of victimization and betrayal

Like telling people there are more than two genders or that people can change genders? Then claiming if you don’t believe those lies you make them a victim.

I love your list! You’re proving how much Dems are actually the fascists by your own definition!

 

[Doc7505]

My bad, this is expected to raise the prices worldwide.

It's a gift to the pharma companies.

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Except for the fact that 90% of all pharmaceuticals are manufactured in China by "Big Pharma". So that story is blown out of the water...
Companies like Pfizer, Hoffman-LaRoche, Merck, Lilly, etc. no longer manufacture within the U.S.

 

[theHawk]

• Attempted to use the Justice Department to target political enemies.
• Issued controversial pardons to allies

LOL literally the Biden Regime right there.

You sure you aren’t a troll?